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Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#901 » by StopitLeo » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:48 pm

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If you read through this thread, they resurface when McCaw has a good game every 5 or 10 games.


Most of McCaw's contributions don't show up in the boxscore, especially single game boxscores. Over the winning streak he had an AST/TO ratio of 5:1, shot over 40% from 3, and was around a +6 overall.

Don't get me wrong, I get frustrated by McCaw too but he's obviously been bumped up in the rotation because of injuries. He has a higher basketball IQ than most people give him credit for - Nurse wouldn't be playing him if that wasn't the case, especially on defense. Moreover, the reality is that he has length and size that we lack in the backcourt; if we need him in the playoffs I'd prefer that he gets reps now.


Easy to shoot 40 percent from 3 when you barely shoot. I appreciate his ability to float around and not screw up too much out there, but he shouldn’t really be a regular rotational player


I'd argue it's not easy. I don't see him being a regular rotation player with a healthy roster. He's the 9th or 10th man with everyone back.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#902 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:08 pm

Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#903 » by Basketball_Jones » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:45 pm

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Most of McCaw's contributions don't show up in the boxscore, especially single game boxscores. Over the winning streak he had an AST/TO ratio of 5:1, shot over 40% from 3, and was around a +6 overall.

Don't get me wrong, I get frustrated by McCaw too but he's obviously been bumped up in the rotation because of injuries. He has a higher basketball IQ than most people give him credit for - Nurse wouldn't be playing him if that wasn't the case, especially on defense. Moreover, the reality is that he has length and size that we lack in the backcourt; if we need him in the playoffs I'd prefer that he gets reps now.


Easy to shoot 40 percent from 3 when you barely shoot. I appreciate his ability to float around and not screw up too much out there, but he shouldn’t really be a regular rotational player


I'd argue it's not easy. I don't see him being a regular rotation player with a healthy roster. He's the 9th or 10th man with everyone back.


Oh, he's definitely going to be in the rotation with a healthy roster. Just watch. It will likely be TD getting benched. But I can see TD breaking out in the playoffs when McCaw isn't giving us anything offensively and we badly need shooting.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#904 » by inthecolours » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:50 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.


When he hits his 3s he's a useful player.

He's not hitting his 3s.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#905 » by JustWin » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:52 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.


Another player I am not keen on. All he can do well is run and finish in the fast break. His jumper is horrendously ugly and his release is very slow. His 3pt shooting is trash, I really don't see much in him tbh.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#906 » by J-Roc » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:53 pm

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WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.


When he hits his 3s he's a useful player.

He's not hitting his 3s.


Which means he'll be out of the league pretty quickly.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#907 » by Boogie! » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:09 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.


Because when he's having a bad game nurse yanks him asap. Mccaw on the other hand continues to get extended run. I've seen people say with a healthy roster he won't get minutes etc... When we were fully healthy for a short stretch before norm when down, mccaw was still getting 20+ mins. That's the problem.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#908 » by will » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:03 pm

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#909 » by Ramed Nazored » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:13 pm

Forget McCaw for a minute.

Head out and enjoy the V-Day with that special someone. If you don't have that someone, get on those apps and make it happen.

I know by boy 'Murph's significant other's probably tired of hearing Patrick's name in his mouth.

Have fun out there tonight friends!
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#910 » by alienchild » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:27 pm

Ramed Nazored wrote:Forget McCaw for a minute.

Head out and enjoy the V-Day with that special someone. If you don't have that someone, get on those apps and make it happen.

I know by boy 'Murph's significant other's probably tired of hearing Patrick's name in his mouth.

Have fun out there tonight friends!


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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#911 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:49 pm

Ramed Nazored wrote:Forget McCaw for a minute.

Head out and enjoy the V-Day with that special someone. If you don't have that someone, get on those apps and make it happen.

I know by boy 'Murph's significant other's probably tired of hearing Patrick's name in his mouth.

Have fun out there tonight friends!


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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#912 » by Randle McMurphy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:24 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.

Probably because he's got one of the better blocked shot rates in the league and the advanced stats suggest he adds value rather than being a complete negative in all areas like a certain McCaw.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#913 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:31 am

He's also a very efficient two point scorer and makes like 80% of his free throws...people have to defend his three point shot as well I think. Show me a bunch of good free throw shooters around the league who are like 55-60% inside the arc. +Who also block shots.

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#914 » by Double Bubble » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:28 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:That’s it. That’s the thread.

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#915 » by Randle McMurphy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:28 am

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Randle McMurphy wrote:That’s it. That’s the thread.

December 25th. Get a hobby

That was quite a Christmas Day game for McCaw.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#916 » by Clay Davis » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:24 am

Lol people saying he gets beat on defense too much like the job of a perimeter defender isn't to funnel the offensive player towards help and less favourable shots

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#917 » by Cobra Kawhi » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:42 pm

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#918 » by Tanner » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:50 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:Watching last game I was thinking how is there not a "Chris Boucher is not an NBA player" thread. He was getting destroyed on the boards and had to be yanked. Yeah he did come back with a couple of nice dunks, but he seems to get a free pass here for some reason.


Boucher is in and out of the rotation depending on player health and doesn't stay on the court that long unless he's doing well. McCaw plays 20 minutes a night when everyone is healthy, and stays on the court long enough to lose games some times.

Boucher might not have a long NBA career, but he's not being force fed minutes regardless of performance either. McCaw's usage is inexcusable. He'll be playing more minutes than TD (definitely), and possibly even Norm (less likely but still possible) in the playoffs. We haven't seen the end of this story yet. We'll be posting in this thread a year from now.
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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#919 » by will » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:37 pm

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Re: Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player 

Post#920 » by Randle McMurphy » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:28 am

New theory: Nurse is only playing McCaw 25 minutes a game over TD, Thomas and like 4 other better players on the roster so the Raps can actually play some close games to prepare them for playoffs. Letting them play 5 on 5 on offense against other playoff teams like Indiana would be far too easy, so he keeps it to 4 on 5. McCaw is essentially like Piccolo’s weighted clothing from DBZ.
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