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Post#61 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:58 pm

I think it was PFF's mock yesterday that had GB going Murray (LB) in round one and Hamler (WR) in round two. That would be about as perfect as you could get I think.
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Post#62 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:57 pm

Baun said he modeled his game after Schobert and thinks he is most similar with the Browns starting inside linebacker.

“I think I can make the same transition to inside ’backer as he did,’’ Baun said.


Could this finally be the year the Badgers take a talented in-state linebacker?
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Post#63 » by Renzen » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:04 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Baun said he modeled his game after Schobert and thinks he is most similar with the Browns starting inside linebacker.

“I think I can make the same transition to inside ’backer as he did,’’ Baun said.


Could this finally be the year the Badgers take a talented in-state linebacker?
Isn't Baun projected to go late 1st/early 2nd?

I like him, but I want Reagor, or Murray over him.

If they both gone, along with Shenault, it's probably between him and Queen

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Post#64 » by Renzen » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:06 pm

As of now, my draft would go:

1st-Jalen Reagor, WR- speed, speed, and more speed.

2nd-Jonathan Taylor, RB- probably wishful thinking, but there is talk of workload, so...

3rd- Lucas Niang, RT- bit of a gamble, with work ethic issues, but he is really talented, and maybe having an all time great that you have to protect glaring at you will make him work hard...

4th- Troy Pride Jr., CB- 6', 190lb guy who projects to run a 4.4, who seemed to be very solid throughout his collegiate career, but did not stand out at a major college in Notre Dame... feels like he could be a real sleeper. Also, good name.

5th- Leki Fotu, DE- may not be here, but at 6'5" and 337, is a giant. Should help our run defense at the very least.

6th- Matthew Wilkerson, TE- 6'6", 270 lbs guy who is projected to run 4.8... boy this kid is INTERESTING... from Edward Waters, about as small school as you can get. Played TE, and DE... very little tape, but he took one hit that flipped him like a rag doll, but held on. Seems to be really good at using his body to screen for catches in the middle of the field, and because of his 2 way nature, seems to really enjoy contact. Definitely a bit of project, but has some real potential. Don't know if he is going to the combine, but that 4.67 the video flashed would be tremendous, and I would be willing to drop a 5th on him if necessary... honestly this kid excited me a bit. I see real potential here

Also, the reason no ILB, I would sign Littleton and Schoebert, along with Hunter Henry at TE... steady vets across the lab corps, makes for a steady defense



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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#65 » by Treebeard » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:43 pm

Renzen wrote:As of now, my draft would go:

1st-Jalen Reagor, WR- speed, speed, and more speed.

2nd-Jonathan Taylor, RB- probably wishful thinking, but there is talk of workload, so...

3rd- Lucas Niang, RT- bit of a gamble, with work ethic issues, but he is really talented, and maybe having an all time great that you have to protect glaring at you will make him work hard...

4th- Troy Pride Jr., CB- 6', 190lb guy who projects to run a 4.4, who seemed to be very solid throughout his collegiate career, but did not stand out at a major college in Notre Dame... feels like he could be a real sleeper. Also, good name.

5th- Leki Fotu, DE- may not be here, but at 6'5" and 337, is a giant. Should help our run defense at the very least.

6th- Matthew Wilkerson, TE- 6'6", 270 lbs guy who is projected to run 4.8... boy this kid is INTERESTING... from Edward Waters, about as small school as you can get. Played TE, and DE... very little tape, but he took one hit that flipped him like a rag doll, but held on. Seems to be really good at using his body to screen for catches in the middle of the field, and because of his 2 way nature, seems to really enjoy contact. Definitely a bit of project, but has some real potential. Don't know if he is going to the combine, but that 4.67 the video flashed would be tremendous, and I would be willing to drop a 5th on him if necessary... honestly this kid excited me a bit. I see real potential here

Also, the reason no ILB, I would sign Littleton and Schoebert, along with Hunter Henry at TE... steady vets across the lab corps, makes for a steady defense


I could live with that outcome. Fotu is my sleeper. https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/leki-fotu/Hmse2z9D4K. Hopefully, some of his technique weaknesses could be coached up...
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Post#66 » by RRyder823 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:04 pm

Renzen wrote:As of now, my draft would go:

1st-Jalen Reagor, WR- speed, speed, and more speed.

2nd-Jonathan Taylor, RB- probably wishful thinking, but there is talk of workload, so...

3rd- Lucas Niang, RT- bit of a gamble, with work ethic issues, but he is really talented, and maybe having an all time great that you have to protect glaring at you will make him work hard...

4th- Troy Pride Jr., CB- 6', 190lb guy who projects to run a 4.4, who seemed to be very solid throughout his collegiate career, but did not stand out at a major college in Notre Dame... feels like he could be a real sleeper. Also, good name.

5th- Leki Fotu, DE- may not be here, but at 6'5" and 337, is a giant. Should help our run defense at the very least.

6th- Matthew Wilkerson, TE- 6'6", 270 lbs guy who is projected to run 4.8... boy this kid is INTERESTING... from Edward Waters, about as small school as you can get. Played TE, and DE... very little tape, but he took one hit that flipped him like a rag doll, but held on. Seems to be really good at using his body to screen for catches in the middle of the field, and because of his 2 way nature, seems to really enjoy contact. Definitely a bit of project, but has some real potential. Don't know if he is going to the combine, but that 4.67 the video flashed would be tremendous, and I would be willing to drop a 5th on him if necessary... honestly this kid excited me a bit. I see real potential here

Also, the reason no ILB, I would sign Littleton and Schoebert, along with Hunter Henry at TE... steady vets across the lab corps, makes for a steady defense

We are going to have A LOT of cap purposefully tied up in a player that at best is going to play 1/3 of the snaps if that happens. (Also niether are great run defenders)

If you want two ILBs in FA it's a much better idea to go with a Schoebert/Trevation combo.



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Post#67 » by Gianstoppable » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:18 pm

Renzen wrote:As of now, my draft would go:

1st-Jalen Reagor, WR- speed, speed, and more speed.

2nd-Jonathan Taylor, RB- probably wishful thinking, but there is talk of workload, so...

3rd- Lucas Niang, RT- bit of a gamble, with work ethic issues, but he is really talented, and maybe having an all time great that you have to protect glaring at you will make him work hard...

4th- Troy Pride Jr., CB- 6', 190lb guy who projects to run a 4.4, who seemed to be very solid throughout his collegiate career, but did not stand out at a major college in Notre Dame... feels like he could be a real sleeper. Also, good name.

5th- Leki Fotu, DE- may not be here, but at 6'5" and 337, is a giant. Should help our run defense at the very least.

6th- Matthew Wilkerson, TE- 6'6", 270 lbs guy who is projected to run 4.8... boy this kid is INTERESTING... from Edward Waters, about as small school as you can get. Played TE, and DE... very little tape, but he took one hit that flipped him like a rag doll, but held on. Seems to be really good at using his body to screen for catches in the middle of the field, and because of his 2 way nature, seems to really enjoy contact. Definitely a bit of project, but has some real potential. Don't know if he is going to the combine, but that 4.67 the video flashed would be tremendous, and I would be willing to drop a 5th on him if necessary... honestly this kid excited me a bit. I see real potential here

Also, the reason no ILB, I would sign Littleton and Schoebert, along with Hunter Henry at TE... steady vets across the lab corps, makes for a steady defense



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JT absolutely will not last until late 2nd round and the workload isnt really that concerning to me, he didnt really take many hits, just mileage on his legs. I think people overstate those things. Everything else I agree with though, Love Reagor. Been beating that drum for a while among friends. Kid has wheels
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Post#68 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 pm

Kiper's new mock has GB taken Justin Jefferson.
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Post#69 » by JHSFIVE » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:16 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Kiper's new mock has GB taken Justin Jefferson.


I'm all in on that one if the big LBs are gone.
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Post#70 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:09 pm

Doug Farrar's mock came out today and he had Zack Moss as the 1st RB taken.



Dude is physical as hell.
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Post#71 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:14 pm

Sure sounds like Gute is open to take a QB early this year.

I wouldn't hate Jordan Love in the first at all.
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Post#72 » by Mags FTW » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:21 am

I would take Love over Herbert. Put me on record as saying I think he'll be a bust.
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Post#73 » by RiotPunch » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:12 am

Love would be cool. Like the idea of him as Aaron's understudy for at least a couple of years. He needs work, but he's got as high a ceiling as any QB in the draft, maybe the highest.
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Post#74 » by Profound23 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:42 am

RiotPunch wrote:Love would be cool. Like the idea of him as Aaron's understudy for at least a couple of years. He needs work, but he's got as high a ceiling as any QB in the draft, maybe the highest.


I would feel the same way about Love that I felt about drafting Rodgers. If he falls to us, great.
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Post#75 » by Matches Malone » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:00 pm

I need to be sold on Love a bit more, but if Gute likes him at 30 and he's there, I'm all for it.
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Post#76 » by Treebeard » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:06 pm

Some heights, weights, arm length, etc for WR & TE's from the Combine:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-combine-tee-higgins-impressive-gronk-comparisons-continue-for-cole-kmet-as-wrs-tes-get-measured/

WR winners
Brandon Aiyuk, Arizona State. Aiyuk is one of the smaller receivers in the group listed above but his wingspan was off the charts for his size. He is such an explosive player and his length obviously benefits him.

Tee Higgins, Clemson. Higgins is one of the bigger wide receivers, but he is not the biggest. His 81-inch wingspan is impressive. It is one reason why he is so comfortable winning down the field.

Donovan Peoples-Jones, Michigan. Peoples-Jones is a player who could really improve his stock this week. He is incredibly long and his wingspan is impressive for someone of his size. He should run well later this week as well.

WR losers
Jerry Jeudy, Alabama. Jeudy should run well later this week, but his measurables were probably the least impressive of the group mentioned above. The Crimson Tide talent uses his footwork and technique downfield to mask any potential deficiencies in comparison to his competition.


TE winners
Cole Kmet, Notre Dame. Kmet has drawn some early comparisons to Rob Gronkowski for his size and the way that he plays the game. Monday's weigh-in will not hurt those comparisons. Kmet's measurements were eerily similar to Gronkowski's at the same stage.

Jacob Breeland, Oregon. Breeland looks a little small on film but his weight puts him in the middle of this tight end group, which is good. His range as a pass catcher should catch the eyes of talent evaluators this week.

TE losers
Harrison Bryant, Florida Atlantic. Bryant moves really well for his position but his size may peg him into a certain role. There are questions about whether he will hold up as a blocker. In all honesty, he weighed-in about where he was expected to, but it will not stack up well with the competition.


Of course, your mileage may vary on the relative value of those measurements
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Post#77 » by Treebeard » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:12 pm

QB Heights, weights, other static measurements - from the combine:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-combine-jordan-love-the-big-winner-as-quarterbacks-weigh-in-and-get-measured/

Quarterback winners
Jordan Love, Utah State. Welcome to the combine, Mr. Love. No quarterback "won" the weigh-in more emphatically than the polarizing prospect from the Mountain West. His hands are gigantic and at nearly 6-4 and 224 pounds, he has a sturdy frame. The 80-inch wingspan doesn't really translate to better on-field play at the quarterback spot, but is impressive nonetheless.

Justin Herbert, Oregon. We all knew Herbert was going to be one of the tallest quarterbacks in this class, but for him to weigh close to 240 pounds indicates he's well-built. Also, those 10-inch hands are decently massive, as is his nearly 79-inch wingspan. The expectation was that Herbert would crush the weigh-in, and he did.

Anthony Gordon, Washington State. As a weaker armed, high-volume passer from Washington State, it's easy to assume Gordon has tiny measureables. But to be over 6-2 with nearly 10-inch hands equated to sizable win for the sleeper prospect.

Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma. Hurts has a unique frame at 6-1 and 222 pounds with large hands -- bigger than Jacob Eason's -- with a rather big wingspan. While those measurements won't alleviate any concerns about him as a passer, Hurts will clear most teams' measurement thresholds for the quarterback spot.

Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama. Hitting the 6-foot mark with hands at 10 inches was a huge win for Tagovailoa. While he is one of the smaller passers in this class, his hands certainly aren't.

Quarterback losers
Joe Burrow, LSU. Don't freak, Bengals fans. But Burrow with just nine-inch hands isn't good for his draft stock. It shouldn't really move the needle though. The threshold is typically right at nine inches, so technically, Burrow got to it. But compared to other top quarterbacks in this class, he has small hands.

Jake Fromm, Georgia. Fromm was undoubtedly the biggest loser of the quarterback weigh-in. Being close to 6-2 and 220 pounds is good. Hands under nine inches simply is not, particularly for a passer not known for his physical prowess.
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Post#79 » by Matches Malone » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:29 pm

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Post#80 » by M-C-G » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:58 pm

This WR class looks just like what the doctor ordered and looking deeper by the day. Love the YAC guys that are in this class

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