robbie84 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Lockdown504090 wrote:for anyone who thinks lebron has been on steroids at any point in his career think for a minute. Steroids have to be cycled, on and off. when people come off them, they lose the gains theyve made..... lebron looks like the hulk year round and has progressed steadily throughout his career which has been on tv 9 months a year for the last 17 years..... so when was he on them?
I mean he does have a 4 month off season every single year, that is a pretty big window. I think it is far more likely that he has taken PEDs than him not having taken PEDs. This is also not just a LeBron thing, I think this goes for the majority of the top NBA athletes. You have a league that conducts its own PED tests, they didnt even start testing for HGH until like 5 years ago. Id point to the UFC to see the difference when an organization changes from conducting its own PED tests to hiring an independent company.
I would also point to a ton of other sports that dont have nearly as much money on the line that have a ton of PED users. The NBA has hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for these guys. Just look at baseball in the 90s and early 2000s, practically every great player from that era was caught juicing. The effects of PEDs can be far greater in the NBA than in the MLB.
FYI it's worth mentioning that PEDs are allowed in the UFC (I'm not sure what the NBA policy is, if it's a zero tolerence or a small amount is allowed), and many, many UFC fighters take PEDs for injury recovery and general strength/fitness in general- they are just small amounts that are legal within the sport.
I'm not convinced on Lebron. The guy has been a monster since he was 16. He was a monster when he came into the league and then started a high calorie, high protein NBA diet with an NBA gym program.
Combine those with freakish genetics and the metabolism of an impoverished American ghetto child and you get a freak of nature who met all the right conditions to flourish.
I mean he's huge, but he's 6 foot 8 with broooaaadd shoulders, huge hands, huge feet, huge head, huge muscles that are connecting those limbs.
He's been really lucky with injuries, but he's so much bigger than everyone else and his playing style isn't like Derrick Rose or Allen Iverson where he hits the deck alot. He gets fouled alot, and he barrels through people alot, but he just doesn't have a risky body type or playing style.
lol.
You do realize what you're saying flies in the face of all logic right?
Arnold Schwarzenneger, Lance Armstrong, Hulk Hogan, Barry Bonds, Mark Mcwgire, Sammy Sosa, etc.
All are also in the top 1% of genetics or whatever you want to call it, and all admitted to using PED's.
There is a LIMIT to human genetics.
When someone is BIGGER, FASTER, STRONGER, AND MORE DURABLE THAN EVERYONE ELSE WHILE ALSO LOOKING DIFFERENT...it's like Lebatard said: "Where there's smoke, there's a good chance of fire".
The fact that some people don't find things like these the least bit suspicious shows they're approaching it emotionally and not logically:
This was before his infamous 50 point game vs the Warriors in the Finals. Why would you need to go to Miami from Cleveland when the game is in Oakland:
LeBron James Briefly Went To Miami Before Start Of Finals
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-sp-lebron-james-udonis-haslem-s20180614-story.html
This happened after the HGH ban guess where he went? Miami:
Here's the story behind the 2-week break that turned LeBron James' season around
Windhorst says that late in 2014, James had been moody and his body wasn't 100%. After suddenly deciding not to play in a game against the Hawks, the Cavs gave him take two weeks off to rest, from which he returned healthy and in a better mood, seemingly revitalized by some midseason trades.
"[James] had sort of just like waved a bit of a white flag there. He just didn't feel like playing. He had never done that ever before. He had always just played through it. And so it was after that game, [the Cavaliers] said, 'Alright, take your two weeks off,' because he had reached a very low point."
Nobody is quite sure why James' two-week break turned around his season. He does seem healthier and more explosive. If it was just fatigue and simple aches that he was dealing with, then two weeks may have been enough to revitalize him.
https://www.businessinsider.com/lebron-james-2-week-break-turned-his-season-around-2015-4
This is what LeBron looked like when he was younger:




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