2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

[UNCNYC]

Hey guys ok this is the LAST UPDATE before March Madness haha. I know I said the other was but this one is.. The reason why is because I added in some PG'S and PF'S which I didn't really do prior. Now all of the categories have a good amount of representation. Here is the new depth chart from BEST TO WORST at their respective positions


POINT GUARDS -

PG - RATED A
Arturs Zagars
Devon Dotson
Nico Mannion
Cole Anthony
Kira Lewis Jr.
Tre Jones
Rocket Watts
Antoine Davis
Andrew Nembhard

PG - RATED B

PG - RATED C

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SHOOTING GUARDS -

SG - RATED A
Killian Hayes
Isaiah Joe
Josh Green
LaMelo Ball
Tyrese Haliburton
James Bouknight
Ty-Shon Alexander
A.J. Reeves
Anthony Edwards
Tom Digbeu

SG - RATED B
Malcolm Cazalon
A.J Lawson
Ayo Dosunmu
Justin Turner
John Petty
Aaron Nesmith
Quentin Grimes
Bryan Antoine
Gabe Kalscheur
Joshua Obeisie

SG - RATED C
Chris Ledlum
Jahmi’us Ramsey
Kellan Grady
Samuell Williamson
Tyler Bey
Sam Cunliffe

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SMALL FORWARDS -

SF - RATED A
Deni Avdija
Jordan Nwora
Mario Nakic
Aaron Wiggins
Lamar Stevens
C.J. Elleby
Precious Achiuwa
Quincy Guerrier
Johnny Juzang
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Emmitt Matthews Jr.
Jeremiah Davenport
Matthew Hurt

SF - RATED B

SF - RATED C

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POWER FORWARDS -

PF - RATED A
Trendon Watford
Obi Toppin
Onyeka Okongwu
Jalen Smith
Amar Sylla
Filip Petrusev
Kai Jones
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Killian Tillie
Jalen Smith
Jeremiah Tilmon
EJ Montgomery

PF - RATED B

PF - RATED C

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CENTERS -

C - RATED A
James Wiseman
Jerico Simms
Daniel Oturu
Neemias Queta
Charles Bassey
Vernon Carey Jr
Zeke Nnaji
Will Baker
Ikey Obiagu
Derek Culver
Javin DeLaurier
Kerry Blackshear Jr.

C - RATED B

C - RATED C

[Hornet Mania]

He has two first names so I approve of Isaiah Joe on principle.

[UNCNYC]

He has two first names so I approve of Isaiah Joe on principle.

Two first names, and apparenty two other twin brothers lol. And they play very similarly.

Ray Allen


Bradley Beal


Isaiah Joe

[Snidely FC]

Jonathan Givony at ESPN+ posted new Mock Draft with CHA taking Deni Avdija at 5
of note: He has moved Isaac Okoro, who doesn't appear on most Top 10 lists (including UNCNYC's) up to #4 in his ranks and has ATL taking Okoro at 3

2020 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HT POS AGE
1. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 225 SG 18.5
2. GSW James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 240 C 18.8
3. ATL Isaac Okoro Auburn 6-6 225 SG/SF 19.0
4. NYK LaMelo Ball Illawarra 6-7 190 PG 18.4
5. CHA Deni Avdija Maccabi 6-9 215 SG/SF 19.1
6. MIN Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 198 PG/SG 19.2
7. DET Onyeka Okongwu USC 6-9 245 PF/C 19.1
8. WAS Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St. 6-5 175 PG 19.9
9. CHI Obi Toppin Dayton 6-9 220 PF 21.9
10. PHX Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 190 PG 18.9
11. SAC Cole Anthony UNC 6-3 190 PG/SG 19.7
12. NOP Killian Hayes Ulm 6-5 192 PG/SG 18.5
13. SAS RJ Hampton New Zealand 6-5 188 PG 19.0
14. BOS (via MEM) Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 174 PG 18.6
15. POR Jaden McDaniels Washington 6-10 200 SF/PF 19.3
16. ORL Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 213 SF 20.3
17. MIN (via BKN) Josh Green Arizona 6-6 210 SG/SF 19.2
18. MIL (via IND) Devin Vassell FSU 6-5 180 SG/SF 19.4
19. OKC Precious Achiuwa Memphis 6-9 225 PF/C 20.6
20. DAL Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 250 C 18.7
21. BKN (via PHI) Saddiq Bey Villanova 6-8 216 SF 20.8
22. DEN (via HOU) Leandro Bolmaro Barcelona 2 6-7 182 SG 19.4
23. MIA Patrick Williams Florida St. 6-8 225 SF/PF 18.4
24. UTA Robert Woodard Mississippi St. 6-7 230 SF 20.4
25. OKC (via DEN) Aleksej Pokusevski Olympiakos B 7-0 195 PF 18.1
26. NYK (via LAC) Jahmi'us Ramsey Texas Tech 6-4 195 PG/SG 18.6
27. BOS Zeke Nnaji Arizona 7-0 228 C 19.1
28. TOR Cassius Winston Michigan St. 6-1 185 PG 21.9
29. LAL Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 270 C 18.9
30. BOS (via MIL) Tre Jones Duke 6-3 185 PG 20.1
31. CHA (via CLE) Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 185 SG/SF 19.9
32. DAL (via GSW) Jordan Nwora Louisville 6-8 225 SF/PF 21.4

[Rays Pompadour]

Jordan Nwora cost himself millions with his disappearing act this weekend. Still like him over Okoro. Oh, and Cassius Winston is a professional basketball player. Lastly, Jalen Smith (Maryland) will come out in this weak class even though he's two years in the G-league from a rotation spot.

[UNCNYC]

Jonathan Givony at ESPN+ posted new Mock Draft with CHA taking Deni Avdija at 5
of note: He has moved Isaac Okoro, who doesn't appear on most Top 10 lists (including UNCNYC's) up to #4 in his ranks and has ATL taking Okoro at 3

2020 NBA Mock Draft
PICK PLAYER TEAM HT POS AGE
1. CLE Anthony Edwards Georgia 6-3 225 SG 18.5
2. GSW James Wiseman Memphis 7-1 240 C 18.8
3. ATL Isaac Okoro Auburn 6-6 225 SG/SF 19.0
4. NYK LaMelo Ball Illawarra 6-7 190 PG 18.4
5. CHA Deni Avdija Maccabi 6-9 215 SG/SF 19.1
6. MIN Tyrese Maxey Kentucky 6-3 198 PG/SG 19.2
7. DET Onyeka Okongwu USC 6-9 245 PF/C 19.1
8. WAS Tyrese Haliburton Iowa St. 6-5 175 PG 19.9
9. CHI Obi Toppin Dayton 6-9 220 PF 21.9
10. PHX Nico Mannion Arizona 6-3 190 PG 18.9
11. SAC Cole Anthony UNC 6-3 190 PG/SG 19.7
12. NOP Killian Hayes Ulm 6-5 192 PG/SG 18.5
13. SAS RJ Hampton New Zealand 6-5 188 PG 19.0
14. BOS (via MEM) Theo Maledon Villeurbanne 6-5 174 PG 18.6
15. POR Jaden McDaniels Washington 6-10 200 SF/PF 19.3
16. ORL Aaron Nesmith Vanderbilt 6-6 213 SF 20.3
17. MIN (via BKN) Josh Green Arizona 6-6 210 SG/SF 19.2
18. MIL (via IND) Devin Vassell FSU 6-5 180 SG/SF 19.4
19. OKC Precious Achiuwa Memphis 6-9 225 PF/C 20.6
20. DAL Isaiah Stewart Washington 6-9 250 C 18.7
21. BKN (via PHI) Saddiq Bey Villanova 6-8 216 SF 20.8
22. DEN (via HOU) Leandro Bolmaro Barcelona 2 6-7 182 SG 19.4
23. MIA Patrick Williams Florida St. 6-8 225 SF/PF 18.4
24. UTA Robert Woodard Mississippi St. 6-7 230 SF 20.4
25. OKC (via DEN) Aleksej Pokusevski Olympiakos B 7-0 195 PF 18.1
26. NYK (via LAC) Jahmi'us Ramsey Texas Tech 6-4 195 PG/SG 18.6
27. BOS Zeke Nnaji Arizona 7-0 228 C 19.1
28. TOR Cassius Winston Michigan St. 6-1 185 PG 21.9
29. LAL Vernon Carey Duke 6-10 270 C 18.9
30. BOS (via MIL) Tre Jones Duke 6-3 185 PG 20.1
31. CHA (via CLE) Scottie Lewis Florida 6-5 185 SG/SF 19.9
32. DAL (via GSW) Jordan Nwora Louisville 6-8 225 SF/PF 21.4

Hey snidely, thanks a million for always being the super scout/GM that you are. Each year in doing my depth chart I have often found different ways to do it. This year I wanted to avoid more of the bigger names and focus on the unseen which is different than years past where I would rank the highly scouted first. The reason is so many will be talked about and drop out before the draft deadline is here. My plan was to give a FULL depth chart right after March Madness (which I still might wait to do) when everyone has declared and just roll out a few names here and there that wont be talked about much. But you ALWAYS inspire me so I will more than likely give another depth chart before weeks end and include many more projected picks including "ALL" the players that you have ranked above.

[UNCNYC]

Hey guys this is another DEPTH CHART. This will be my last until april. Many of these players I gave a first glance
to and walked away (or typed away unimpressed) but after reevaluating them some have caught my eye.

PG - I have grown to like RJ Hampton and Theo Maledon a lot more who I thought were a bit overrated.

SG - I have now moved LaMelo Ball into the number 1 spot as to who I would take if fell to us.

SF - This is the BIGGEST jump for me. After reevaluating Leandro Bolmaro, I have become a HUGE fan. This dude should be considered for our first pick.

Right now I think we should consider

LameLo Ball
Killian Hayes
Leandro Bolmaro
Isaiah Joe
James Bouknight
Deni Avdija

In that order...

These are the ONLY players I would consider for our first pick. I think we should trade back and see if we can get a future 1st
thrown in

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POINT GUARDS -

PG - RATED A
RJ Hampton
Theo Maledon
Arturs Zagars
Devon Dotson
Nico Mannion
Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Kira Lewis Jr.
Tre Jones
Rocket Watts
Antoine Davis
Andrew Nembhard

PG - RATED B

PG - RATED C

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SHOOTING GUARDS -

SG - RATED A
LaMelo Ball
Killian Hayes
Isaiah Joe
James Bouknight
Josh Green
Tyrese Haliburton
Ty-Shon Alexander
Anthony Edwards
A.J. Reeves
Tom Digbeu

SG - RATED B
Malcolm Cazalon
A.J Lawson
Ayo Dosunmu
Jarron Cumberland
Devin Vassell
Myles Powell
Justin Turner
Scottie Lewis
John Petty
David Collins
Fatts Russell
Davide Moretti
Aaron Nesmith
Aaron Henry
Quentin Grimes
Sam Cunliffe
Bryan Antoine
Gabe Kalscheur
Joshua Obeisie

SG - RATED C
Chris Ledlum
Jahmi’us Ramsey
Joe Wieskamp
Kellan Grady
Samuell Williamson
Tyler Bey

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SMALL FORWARDS -

SF - RATED A
Leandro Bolmaro
Deni Avdija
Isaac Okoro
Jordan Nwora
Mario Nakic
Aaron Wiggins
C.J. Elleby
Saddiq Bey
Robert Woodard
Emmitt Matthews Jr.
Lamar Stevens
Alpha Diallo
Precious Achiuwa
Quincy Guerrier
Johnny Juzang
Georgios Kalaitzakis
Jeremiah Davenport
Matthew Hurt

SF - RATED B

SF - RATED C

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POWER FORWARDS -

PF - RATED A
Jaden McDaniels
Trendon Watford
Onyeka Okongwu
Jalen Smith
Obi Toppin
Aleksej Pokusevski
Patrick Williams
Amar Sylla
Kai Jones
Jeremiah Robinson-Earl
Filip Petrusev
Killian Tillie
Jeremiah Tilmon
EJ Montgomery

PF - RATED B

PF - RATED C

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CENTERS -

C - RATED A
James Wiseman
Jerico Simms
Daniel Oturu
Neemias Queta
Vernon Carey Jr
Isaiah Stewart
Ikey Obiagu
Charles Bassey
Zeke Nnaji
Cameron Krutwig
Will Baker
Chase Jeter
Derek Culver
Javin DeLaurier
Kerry Blackshear Jr.
Luka Brajkovic

C - RATED B

C - RATED C

[yosemiteben]

Hey guys this is another DEPTH CHART. This will be my last until april.

Hmm...

Hey guys ok this is the LAST UPDATE before March Madness haha. I know I said the other was but this one is.

I'm just speaking for me, but I don't really read or engage with your depth chart because they change so frequently and candidly it doesn't seem like you put much effort into talking about specific prospects. I think you'd get way more meaningful feedback and be perceived as providing more value if you focused more on breaking down individual prospects and less on frequently posting a huge list of rankings.

Just my two cents, you do you.

[Liver_Pooty]

Makur Maker is eligible for this years draft. I know absolutely nothing about him other than he is a top center coming out of this years highschool class and is suppose to go to Oregon.

[UNCNYC]

Makur Maker is eligible for this years draft. I know absolutely nothing about him other than he is a top center coming out of this years highschool class and is suppose to go to Oregon.

I was somewhat a fan and rated him last year, I might have rated him the year prior but do not remember. From what I remember he is very thin and plays PF. He has decent ball handles and good passing skills. I can't remember him as a shooter. I wouldn't mind using our 2nd 2ndrounder on him.

[CatgutStitches]

Hey guys this is another DEPTH CHART. This will be my last until april.

Hmm...

Hey guys ok this is the LAST UPDATE before March Madness haha. I know I said the other was but this one is.

I'm just speaking for me, but I don't really read or engage with your depth chart because they change so frequently and candidly it doesn't seem like you put much effort into talking about specific prospects. I think you'd get way more meaningful feedback and be perceived as providing more value if you focused more on breaking down individual prospects and less on frequently posting a huge list of rankings.

Just my two cents, you do you.

It's just white noise at this point. Though I WOULD love to see him run an NBA franchise. It would be hilarious. That YUTA/Tony Carr pick and roll would be carving up the league by now.

I honestly don't know exactly how I feel about these draft "analysis'"... They are ridiculous but I also can't look away

[UNCNYC]

Hey guys this is another DEPTH CHART. This will be my last until april.

Hmm...

Hey guys ok this is the LAST UPDATE before March Madness haha. I know I said the other was but this one is.

I'm just speaking for me, but I don't really read or engage with your depth chart because they change so frequently and candidly it doesn't seem like you put much effort into talking about specific prospects. I think you'd get way more meaningful feedback and be perceived as providing more value if you focused more on breaking down individual prospects and less on frequently posting a huge list of rankings.

Just my two cents, you do you.

It's just white noise at this point. Though I WOULD love to see him run an NBA franchise. It would be hilarious. That YUTA/Tony Carr pick and roll would be carving up the league by now.

I honestly don't know exactly how I feel about these draft "analysis'"... They are ridiculous but I also can't look away

Its all about preference (you cant please everyone)

I post the list to show who is out there to be drafted so that you don't have to go looking all over to find out.

Some people dont want to go digging around for players. I not only post players the experts post but also guys like
Isaiah Joe etc... and what could be available to us when we select. Sometimes I post more about certain players.

I disagree in that I don't post what certain players bring to the table. I have posted what I like about Isaiah Joe,
Zagars, Killian Hayes, McDaneils etc... and if I haven't I think you might have been expecting too much.

If I did post more about them i'd be lying because there is no way I could find out THAT MUCH about these players with
all thats changing in such a short time.

I get very enthused about the draft because it is the time that we can actually change things about our team. Other than that we have to enjoy what often ends up as a mediocure season.

For every YuTa and Tony Carr there is, there is also a Jalen McDaniels and Devonte Graham. Im not a bragger at all but (two players who I feel I hit on) Its hit or miss.

Here is a player below who I am gonna post named Jalen Smith who I feel would make a good center for us in the second round. Probably wouldn't know about him if you hadn't heard about him on this board or was a follower of his team. If not for me (not that I am looking for recognition) but you might have to just know about the top 10 picks only, (which would get boring) rather than finding out about a Jalen Smith or AJ Lawson Or Isaiah Joe. Sometimes bringing up a discussion is all thats needed.

Potential center for us

Watch on YouTube

I think he could make a great 6th man for us

Watch on YouTube

[No-Man]

I'd draft Toppin and just go small inside if I were the Hornets, it's either him or one of the Guards in your likely range imo

[UNCNYC]

My DREAM (but of course it wont happen) is for us to trade back on draft night and pick up a future first rounder. Then draft Killian Hayes first. Then for some luck of the draw have Leandro Bolmaro fall to us at 32. Then another luck of the draw have Isaiah Joe fall to us for our 3rd pick. Then have Jalen Smith and AJ Lawson or CJ Ellerby go undrafted and sign them. Then sign YuTa and Pinson. New lineup

Graham
Hayes
Bolmaro
McDaneils
Smith

Rozier / Pinson
Joe / Lawson
Bridges / Ellerby
Washington / YuTa
zeller / Biz

No way this happens but what a dream this would be lol.

[Benjamin Linus]

I just want to see LaMelo Ball in Atlanta. LET IT HAPPEN. Him and Trae will either be an unstoppable force or a total shítshow. Either way I would tune in for it.

[Liver_Pooty]

I just want to see LaMelo Ball in Atlanta. LET IT HAPPEN. Him and Trae will either be an unstoppable force or a total shítshow. Either way I would tune in for it.

They'd give up 75 a game between them

[UNCNYC]

I'm not that high on us taking DENI AVDIJA, but I think our franchise will go in that direction.

I would rather....

PICK 1 - Killian Hayes, LaMeLo Ball, James Bouknight

PICK 2 - Leandro Bolmaro, Josh Green, Aleksej Pokusevski

PICK 3 - Isaiah Joe, Malcolm Cazalon, Ty-Shon Alexander

SL INVITES - Trendon Watford, Yam Madar, Emmitt Matthews Jr.

According to this site

https://www.draftsite.com/nba/mock-draft/2020/

I MIGHT have a chance of my dream of HAYES, BOLMARO AND JOE coming true. WIth our 1st pick we can take Hayes and they have no listing of Bolmaro (so maybe he can still be available) and Joe is slotted to go 2 picks before we get our final pick which is RIGHT-THERE for the taking.

[bravor]

for my part, i hope Bolmaro is not picked here. He is nowhere close - size, weight, overall talent - to what Ginobili was (even though he is younger than manu when he was in Bologna). For the record, Hezonja was a star with Barcelona..
And under contract with Barcelona means heavy buy out (and being kinda 'forced' to play him)

I assume next draft will provide prospects where this team has the most glaring need, a sg and a center. At least with the two best picks.

March madness will probably affect a lot of those rankings anyway.

Knowing in next drafts (2021/2022) there will be a lot of interesting bigs (Ballo, Garuba, Bates, Wembanyama..). This one is much more about fixing some needs but also using those picks wisely to increase overall trade value (which means no euro stash like what happened with the lith').

[DY_nasty]

Hezonja was not a 'star' cmon lol

[UNCNYC]

for my part, i hope Bolmaro is not picked here. He is nowhere close - size, weight, overall talent - to what Ginobili was (even though he is younger than manu when he was in Bologna). For the record, Hezonja was a star with Barcelona..
And under contract with Barcelona means heavy buy out (and being kinda 'forced' to play him)

I assume next draft will provide prospects where this team has the most glaring need, a sg and a center. At least with the two best picks.

March madness will probably affect a lot of those rankings anyway.

Knowing in next drafts (2021/2022) there will be a lot of interesting bigs (Ballo, Garuba, Bates, Wembanyama..). This one is much more about fixing some needs but also using those picks wisely to increase overall trade value (which means no euro stash like what happened with the lith').

I always appreciate your international expertise. You are so appreciated and needed on this board. Especially around draft time lol.