2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[Slim Charless]

I hope that Jones & Bower have the same idea - the interest in Kennard certainly seemed to indicate that they want to add a solid bench shot-creator.

Kennard's injury issues probably scuppered that deal, but that's the sort of player we need to look at.

I'd explore all of the following, and see who can be had the cheapest via trade or free agency:

VanVleet
Dinwiddie
Bogdan
Fournier
Devonte Graham
Schroder
Josh Richardson
Aaron Holiday
Sexton / Garland
Gary Harris
Derrick White

I thought about a guy like Harris. He is not cheap - some 19m per year - but they may want to move him since they do have Barton. And they will have Jerami Grant to bring back.

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

[Crives]

finding a backup guard should be more urgent then adding a high profile PF like Lauri or AG.

You like those 3 or 4 guard bench units?

I think those 3-4 bench guard units have been due to our injuries to Cam/Bigs

[bwgood77]

I thought about a guy like Harris. He is not cheap - some 19m per year - but they may want to move him since they do have Barton. And they will have Jerami Grant to bring back.

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Doubtful. Zach Lowe thinks he will probably make around $16 million.

That suggests that with increased playing time and touches, he has been able to produce well for his team. This has led ESPN’s Zach Lowe to note that Harris, who currently makes $8 million annually, could make somewhere in the $16 million range per season on his new contract (via The Lowe Post):

“The phrase ‘at least double his money’ has been thrown around by league insiders … [He] is good. He is a good, all-around player. He is tough. He plays defense.”

Harris has been one of the most prolific, productive shooters on spot-up attempts as well on handoffs and when coming off screens.

https://hoopshype.com/2019/12/19/brooklyn-nets-joe-harris-free-agency-worth-value-contract/

[BobbieL]

I thought about a guy like Harris. He is not cheap - some 19m per year - but they may want to move him since they do have Barton. And they will have Jerami Grant to bring back.

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

[Blonde]

Lots of ways to improve the team this summer. Bogdanovic, Jerami Grant, and Millsap in free agency. Gordon, Markkanen, and Kennard in the trade market. All of these should be explored.

Whatever we do it should be more than a bunch of cheap veteran depth pieces and a low ceiling rookie like last year. Time to consolidate assets and/or use that cap space on someone who can play in our best 5 man units.

[Saberestar]

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

Joe Harris is gonna get a big contract. I expect something like $45M / 3 years...or even more.

Korkmaz is not an option. He is under contract (not guaranteed, but it will be for sure) for next season.

The player that I really see as a realistic option is Langston Galloway.

He is a GREAT 3p shooter and a decent defender. Enough to get around $24M/3 years.

That would be fair contract for someone who can play next to Booker or Rubio and is in his prime (28yo).

Jeff Bower got him for the Pistons three years ago for $21M / 3 years, so he likes him for sure.

[BobbieL]

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

Joe Harris is gonna get a big contract. I expect something like $45M / 3 years...or even more.

Korkmaz is not an option. He is under contract (not guaranteed, but it will be for sure) for next season.

The player that I really see as a realistic option is Langston Galloway.

He is a GREAT 3p shooter and a decent defender. Enough to get around $24M/3 years.

That would be fair contract for someone who can play next to Booker or Rubio and is in his prime (28yo).

Jeff Bower got him for the Pistons three years ago for $21M / 3 years, so he likes him for sure.

I like that kind of name. I think if the Suns are smart - they will be able to maximize their cap space to get players that fill out holes on the roster. If you want to call them "role players" - thats fine. But Galloway, or a 3 pt shooter of his ilk and Millsap would be fine additions. Provided the current roster stay somewhat healthy.

[WeekapaugGroove]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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[Slim Charless]

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

Joe Harris is gonna get a big contract. I expect something like $45M / 3 years...or even more.

Korkmaz is not an option. He is under contract (not guaranteed, but it will be for sure) for next season.

The player that I really see as a realistic option is Langston Galloway.

He is a GREAT 3p shooter and a decent defender. Enough to get around $24M/3 years.

That would be fair contract for someone who can play next to Booker or Rubio and is in his prime (28yo).

Jeff Bower got him for the Pistons three years ago for $21M / 3 years, so he likes him for sure.

I like that kind of name. I think if the Suns are smart - they will be able to maximize their cap space to get players that fill out holes on the roster. If you want to call them "role players" - thats fine. But Galloway, or a 3 pt shooter of his ilk and Millsap would be fine additions. Provided the current roster stay somewhat healthy.

He's only 26 I think so I'd be fine with offering him a deal around 13 or so. With Cam and him around we'd have enough shooting to space things out for Ayton, make up for Rubio's lack of a shot and give Booker more room. Then hopefully add PF via trade or FA. I think if the suns really want to they have 1st choice of alot of these dudes. So many teams are gonna be saving $$ in prep for 2021. I'd say we should be one of them but we need to be somewhat contenders b4 we can land a Giannis or a Kawhi.

[Slim Charless]

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Doubtful. Zach Lowe thinks he will probably make around $16 million.

That suggests that with increased playing time and touches, he has been able to produce well for his team. This has led ESPN’s Zach Lowe to note that Harris, who currently makes $8 million annually, could make somewhere in the $16 million range per season on his new contract (via The Lowe Post):

“The phrase ‘at least double his money’ has been thrown around by league insiders … [He] is good. He is a good, all-around player. He is tough. He plays defense.”

Harris has been one of the most prolific, productive shooters on spot-up attempts as well on handoffs and when coming off screens.

https://hoopshype.com/2019/12/19/brooklyn-nets-joe-harris-free-agency-worth-value-contract/

16 is tougher but with Ayton playing inside and Rubio's nothingness it might be worth it. Perfect world we sign Harris then somehow parlay Oubre, some picks and filler for Ben Simmons but that's probably a pipe dream

[Saberestar]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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Keeping him away from the Lakers is big for the clips but I'm not really sure I like the clips better with him taking minutes from Lou, Beverly, or even Shammet.

I actually think the Clips are getting dangerously close to having too many guys who want/need to get their shots up.

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[BobbieL]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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Clippers to me are almost "pacing" themselves

getting Kawhi his rest probably. same with PG

and come playoff time, they have a few things

1) they have Kawhi - top 3 player in the NBA

2) defense with Kawhi, George and PatBev (as Gambo called him, PatBev - one word)

3) scorers off the bench in Sweet Lou and now Jackson. One of those guys will probably be on every night

I think they are the favorite now

[Saberestar]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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Keeping him away from the Lakers is big for the clips but I'm not really sure I like the clips better with him taking minutes from Lou, Beverly, or even Shammet.

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Like we are seeing all season long injuries are always there, and depth in the playoffs is huge. Reggie Jackson is a big plus for them.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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Keeping him away from the Lakers is big for the clips but I'm not really sure I like the clips better with him taking minutes from Lou, Beverly, or even Shammet.

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Like we are seeing all season long injuries are always there, and depth in the playoffs is huge. Reggie Jackson is a big plus for them.

I agree on the injury part and Beverly hasn't been the healthiest dude this year.

I actually think depth is less important in the playoffs. Like it's important to not play bad players who get picked on but you really only need 8 in a playoff rotation.

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[BobbieL]

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Big news! Add some bigs and depth. I keep the same starting 5 - no reason to put Saric ahead of Bridges. I hope Monty doesn't. But maybe the team can be healthy the rest of the year somewhat and see how they do. My goal is 14-13 - at worst I hope they get to 33 wins (which would mean losses <50 - which I think is a big F'in deal from 21 and 19 wins!)

I still hope Bolden gets some good decent minutes the rest of the year. Have to see what he can give you. Cheap bench options that have a role are always needed .

And like Week said - Okobo - does his option get picked up

Jerome - can he show that he can be a top 4 rotational guard

So yes, I want the team to win games but also hope to see some younger players get valuable minutes.

[Jdiddy701]

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Big news! Add some bigs and depth. I keep the same starting 5 - no reason to put Saric ahead of Bridges. I hope Monty doesn't. But maybe the team can be healthy the rest of the year somewhat and see how they do. My goal is 14-13 - at worst I hope they get to 33 wins (which would mean losses <50 - which I think is a big F'in deal from 21 and 19 wins!)

I wonder by the Suns keeping Baynes to the rest of the season means they will likely try to resign him in the offseason or do they just know they are thin with big man and have to keep him. I also wonder if Baynes likes it in Phoenix. Seems like he’s been a great mentor to Deandre Ayton.


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[Slim Charless]

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Big news! Add some bigs and depth. I keep the same starting 5 - no reason to put Saric ahead of Bridges. I hope Monty doesn't. But maybe the team can be healthy the rest of the year somewhat and see how they do. My goal is 14-13 - at worst I hope they get to 33 wins (which would mean losses <50 - which I think is a big F'in deal from 21 and 19 wins!)

I wonder by the Suns keeping Baynes to the rest of the season means they will likely try to resign him in the offseason or do they just know they are thin with big man and have to keep him. I also wonder if Baynes likes it in Phoenix. Seems like he’s been a great mentor to Deandre Ayton.


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I'd bet it's a combination of us being thin at the 4/5 and him being good for DA also helps some. I'd think we'd want to resign him for a reasonable deal. Idk if he'll be down for that he might want to go chase a ring, but if not I think he's good both on and off the floor for the suns.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

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Big news! Add some bigs and depth. I keep the same starting 5 - no reason to put Saric ahead of Bridges. I hope Monty doesn't. But maybe the team can be healthy the rest of the year somewhat and see how they do. My goal is 14-13 - at worst I hope they get to 33 wins (which would mean losses <50 - which I think is a big F'in deal from 21 and 19 wins!)

I wonder by the Suns keeping Baynes to the rest of the season means they will likely try to resign him in the offseason or do they just know they are thin with big man and have to keep him. I also wonder if Baynes likes it in Phoenix. Seems like he’s been a great mentor to Deandre Ayton.


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I'd bet it's a combination of us being thin at the 4/5 and him being good for DA also helps some. I'd think we'd want to resign him for a reasonable deal. Idk if he'll be down for that he might want to go chase a ring, but if not I think he's good both on and off the floor for the suns.

Am I the only one who doesn't want Aron Baynes back?

[sunskerr]

Reggie Jackson is not very good in the context of being a starting PG. But in the context of depth, being behind Pat Bev and Lou Williams, he is pretty damn nice to have.

Speaking of PGs, if we want to upgrade our PG position, I'd suggest trying to do it this offseason by going hard after FVV, instead of in the 2021 free agency. There are literally no realistic PG targets for our team in 2021. 2022 is when Rubio expires, so waiting until then is also a possibility.