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Re: Draft 2020 

Post#21 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:31 pm

5InOfLouisville wrote:only seen him play once, but Obi Toppin could be a late lottery steal. i imagine he improves his stock such that he is gone when we pick, but another legit stretch 4 with real athleticism. a bit of a shaky defender, but lots of potential.


I love Obi and am super high on him long term
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Post#22 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:33 pm

100proof wrote:Vernon Carrey Jr should be the main target


He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.
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Post#23 » by Bleeding Green » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:44 pm

I just hope that Ainge can nab Loren Cristian Jackson late second for the short PG complaints.

Aaron Nesmith might fall a little with his foot injury, maybe get him with the Bucks pick. But maybe even with the Grizz pick.

As long as they don't draft any bigs I'll be happy. Unless in the Rob Williams mold.

Gonna be a wild offseason I think. So many moving parts (Hayward, Kanter, Wanamaker, Semi, Green all potential FA/non-guaranteed) players that need to be signed (Waters), plus 4 draft picks. This team needs a consolidation trade for sure or to draft euro stashes galore.
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Post#24 » by jfs1000d » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:44 pm

5InOfLouisville wrote:only seen him play once, but Obi Toppin could be a late lottery steal. i imagine he improves his stock such that he is gone when we pick, but another legit stretch 4 with real athleticism. a bit of a shaky defender, but lots of potential.

If we make any pick, we got high potential player no matter how young and raw, or, euro stash.

No rotation players. We need players that we can slow develop.

I would prefer high potential euro stashes.


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Re: Draft 2020 

Post#25 » by 100proof » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:22 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:Vernon Carrey Jr should be the main target


He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.


He is currently sporting an NCAA best 85.1 defensive rating.
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Post#26 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:45 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:Vernon Carrey Jr should be the main target


He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.


He is currently sporting an NCAA best 85.1 defensive rating.


Cool, in the NCAA you can play a zone and park a C in the middle of the paint all possession. The dude cannot move his feet well enough to play defense at the next level. This is why you cant rely on stats without context.
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Post#27 » by exculpatory » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:06 pm

I do not know the name of 1 college player eligible for this draft.
Can someone give me a very brief & focused summary?
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Post#28 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:12 pm

exculpatory wrote:I do not know the name of 1 college player eligible for this draft.
Can someone give me a very brief & focused summary?


This draft is like 2000 or 2013. There is no consensus #1 pick. In a normal draft, I’d say the odds are about 80% that the best player in the draft is a top 5 pick. I’d peg them at the inverse that the best player will be outside of the top 5 for this draft.

There will be a ton of duds picked outside of the top 5. But I’d guess that there are 1 or 2 real good player.
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Post#29 » by Wes-J » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:18 pm

Anthony is interesting as a scoring specialist if Ainge believes they need to move on from Carsen.
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Post#30 » by 100proof » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:29 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.


He is currently sporting an NCAA best 85.1 defensive rating.


Cool, in the NCAA you can play a zone and park a C in the middle of the paint all possession. The dude cannot move his feet well enough to play defense at the next level. This is why you cant rely on stats without context.



I see him more like wendel carter jr, with more athleticism

Have no concerns of his defense
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Post#31 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:30 pm

100proof wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:
He is currently sporting an NCAA best 85.1 defensive rating.


Cool, in the NCAA you can play a zone and park a C in the middle of the paint all possession. The dude cannot move his feet well enough to play defense at the next level. This is why you cant rely on stats without context.



I see him more like wendel carter jr, with more athleticism

Have no concerns of his defense


Would recommend watching Duke play.
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Post#32 » by Bleeding Green » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:38 pm

Wes-J wrote:Anthony is interesting as a scoring specialist if Ainge believes they need to move on from Carsen.

Edwards has played 300 minutes into a 3 year guaranteed contract. Hopefully they just draft whoever is the best player every time, trade back for future picks, etc. First rule should be don't draft for any perceived need, because no one from this draft is going to be good enough next year to crack the Celtics rotation.


Tyrese Haliburton is gonna be nasty btw. Dunno where he lands in mocks (all over the place) but he could be my dream point guard in an all 6'5"-6'9" wing-heavy lineup that can switch every play and basically just cover the entire floor defensively, splash threes or dunk all game.
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Post#33 » by Celtics_History_Lesson » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:15 pm

exculpatory wrote:I do not know the name of 1 college player eligible for this draft.
Can someone give me a very brief & focused summary?



No, you are correct, and this is the wisest assessment of the draft quality.


College basketball has now been completely destroyed by the talentless, arrogant and skillless high school chuckers.

There are no NBA-quality, star-potential players eligible for college.


James Wiseman, not eligible.

Played just over an hour of college basketball. Has to go Top 3. Should be Top 1.


Deni Avdija, LaMelo Ball, Theo Maledon, RJ Hampton, Killian Hayes, all not eligible and lottery chances.



For the college eligible, said it before, just undersized chucking guards and undersized chucking power forwards.

Don't know why Vernon Carey and Udoka Azubuike are not celebrated here, at least they look like NBA players. They have NBA size, NBA positions.


If the Celtics want to have some fun, the Arizona prospects are actually entertaining.

They don't really help in positions the Celtics need help, but at least fun to watch.

Zeke Nnaji, plays the piano, like David Robinson. 60% from the field, very athletic, 78% on free throws.

Josh Green, has the Celtic color. Similar to J Brown when he was in college.

Nico Mannion, he was supposed to be Steve Nash. Can pass the ball, shot has been off.

Stone Gettings, a late second rounder chance, a power forward who seems to do what his teams needs.



Anthony Edwards, many say he is the top pick?

40% from the field, 30% from 3, this is what college basketball has descended to.

They call him a "scorer", just means he shoots a lot more than everyone else.



Obi Toppin, he is playing against small schools, so hard to tell.

Most people could get 10 points against Vrankovic State or Alton Lister Tech.

His high FG% may be due to dunking on 6-2 power forwards. 36% from 3, seems promising, but 71% on free throws seems not.

Don't think he is Boston's power forward of the future.




Who else is around for college eligible?

Onyeka Okongwu, can't spell his name. Power forward who gets blocks, dunks.

Cole Anthony, another with point guard size who can't pass or shoot. Disney hype him because of who his family is?

Daniel Oturu, haven't seen a lot of him, a center for blocks and rebounds.

Powerhouse Gonzaga, they have a few players. Killian Tillie is the perimeter power forward who could hit 40% of his 3s. Filip Petrusev scores a lot.


Celtics might use a first on Tres Tinkle, who they didn't think was worth a late second rounder a year ago, and it may be a good move. Probably not, he has found bricking the past month.



College basketball is so bad now, makes the Houston Rockets seem watchable.
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Re: Draft 2020 

Post#34 » by Darth Celtic » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:20 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:I just hope that Ainge can nab Loren Cristian Jackson late second for the short PG complaints.

Aaron Nesmith might fall a little with his foot injury, maybe get him with the Bucks pick. But maybe even with the Grizz pick.

As long as they don't draft any bigs I'll be happy. Unless in the Rob Williams mold.

Gonna be a wild offseason I think. So many moving parts (Hayward, Kanter, Wanamaker, Semi, Green all potential FA/non-guaranteed) players that need to be signed (Waters), plus 4 draft picks. This team needs a consolidation trade for sure or to draft euro stashes galore.

Yeah, NBAdraft.net has Aaron at like 21. Looking at his offensive stats, wow. 6'6" sf/sg who shoots amazing from deep. Sounds like he'd fit right in with our all wing lineup.
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Post#35 » by Floody100 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:36 pm

Aaron Nesmith & Killian Tillie would be the two that I’d be targeting.
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Post#36 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:50 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:Vernon Carrey Jr should be the main target


He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.


awful take. If still available, he'd be a good choice with the MEM pick. Great size, footwork and touch. He'll likely take his range out to three point. He's very active on D, that won't be a problem at the next level once he loses some of that baby fat. I like him. I can't imagine us finally taking a quality big. It's been so long.
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Post#37 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:55 am

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:
100proof wrote:Vernon Carrey Jr should be the main target


He’s immobile and an atrocious defender. No chance he’s a good player at the next level. Massive pass.


awful take. If still available, he'd be a good choice with the MEM pick. Great size, footwork and touch. He'll likely take his range out to three point. He's very active on D, that won't be a problem at the next level once he loses some of that baby fat. I like him. I can't imagine us finally taking a quality big. It's been so long.


Awful take. Watch him play defense. He makes Enes Kanter blush.
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Post#38 » by Gomes3PC » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:07 am

Another guy to keep an eye on - Paul Reed. Bouncy big who is super active on D and the glass, and has a promising jumper.
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Post#39 » by exculpatory » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:39 am

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exculpatory wrote:I do not know the name of 1 college player eligible for this draft.
Can someone give me a very brief & focused summary?



No, you are correct, and this is the wisest assessment of the draft quality.


College basketball has now been completely destroyed by the talentless, arrogant and skillless high school chuckers.

There are no NBA-quality, star-potential players eligible for college.


James Wiseman, not eligible.

Played just over an hour of college basketball. Has to go Top 3. Should be Top 1.


Deni Avdija, LaMelo Ball, Theo Maledon, RJ Hampton, Killian Hayes, all not eligible and lottery chances.



For the college eligible, said it before, just undersized chucking guards and undersized chucking power forwards.

Don't know why Vernon Carey and Udoka Azubuike are not celebrated here, at least they look like NBA players. They have NBA size, NBA positions.


If the Celtics want to have some fun, the Arizona prospects are actually entertaining.

They don't really help in positions the Celtics need help, but at least fun to watch.

Zeke Nnaji, plays the piano, like David Robinson. 60% from the field, very athletic, 78% on free throws.

Josh Green, has the Celtic color. Similar to J Brown when he was in college.

Nico Mannion, he was supposed to be Steve Nash. Can pass the ball, shot has been off.

Stone Gettings, a late second rounder chance, a power forward who seems to do what his teams needs.



Anthony Edwards, many say he is the top pick?

40% from the field, 30% from 3, this is what college basketball has descended to.

They call him a "scorer", just means he shoots a lot more than everyone else.



Obi Toppin, he is playing against small schools, so hard to tell.

Most people could get 10 points against Vrankovic State or Alton Lister Tech.

His high FG% may be due to dunking on 6-2 power forwards. 36% from 3, seems promising, but 71% on free throws seems not.

Don't think he is Boston's power forward of the future.




Who else is around for college eligible?

Onyeka Okongwu, can't spell his name. Power forward who gets blocks, dunks.

Cole Anthony, another with point guard size who can't pass or shoot. Disney hype him because of who his family is?

Daniel Oturu, haven't seen a lot of him, a center for blocks and rebounds.

Powerhouse Gonzaga, they have a few players. Killian Tillie is the perimeter power forward who could hit 40% of his 3s. Filip Petrusev scores a lot.


Celtics might use a first on Tres Tinkle, who they didn't think was worth a late second rounder a year ago, and it may be a good move. Probably not, he has found bricking the past month.



College basketball is so bad now, makes the Houston Rockets seem watchable.


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Re: Draft 2020 

Post#40 » by cloverleaf » Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:21 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
Wes-J wrote:
Gomes3PC wrote:Can't think of the last time a draft was this uncertain from top to bottom. In general, I think that will accrue to the benefit of a shrewd evaluator like Ainge - it would surprise nobody if the best 3-4 players in this draft are not picked in the top 5, and I would guess 1-2 of them will not be top 20 picks.

My three binkies this year are Killian, Okoro and Okongwu. Maybe all three wind up out of reach of the Memphis pick, but if we walk away with one of them I'll call it a big W this year.


Sign me up for Okoro he's exactly what I hoped Semi would be. The idea of Semi is dead to me.
At this rate he could vault in the top ten.

I haven't seen vassell I want to check him out in the tournament.

Semi keeps getting better and better as we go. He can't do anything on offense but stand at the 3pt line, but on defense he's solid against 1-5. Switch anything. He's like the perfect example of 3 and d. You just hope a 3 and d can occatinoally drive and dunk, but he really can't


Hey, Semi's +7.3 with a .600 TS% in his 4 starts, -0.6 off the bench. Looks like Brad's just been playing him in the wrong role!

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