2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[Damkac]

Wow, this signing is big for the Clippers. With Reggie Jackson they are definitely my favourite team to win it all.

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If it's not the Lakers I'm ok with it.

Though I would prefer if it would be Bucks or some other small market team to win it all.

[SunsRback4Good]

Clippers loading up for a playoff push I see. First Marcus last week and now a point guard they desperately needed. I have them versus Bucks in the finals. No more of GS/Cavs nonsense. About time we see two new teams in the finals.

[KLEON]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

[lilfishi22]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

Love Carter and would love to continue to develop him in that PatBev mold. But knowing this organisation, I wouldn't be surprised if we let him walk.

[cberry78]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

Love Carter and would love to continue to develop him in that PatBev mold. But knowing this organisation, I wouldn't be surprised if we let him walk.

Oh come on, stop being so pessimistic about this organization.

We all know that we'll trade Carter with a 2nd round pick for cash considerations on draft day.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I thought about a guy like Harris. He is not cheap - some 19m per year - but they may want to move him since they do have Barton. And they will have Jerami Grant to bring back.

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Sorry! My bad man. Those were their current salaries. But for Harris I'd expect him to get around 10-12 million tops IF a team with cap space has him high on their free agency list.

I'd definitely be willing to pay him up to 10 million ( max) if he was interested. But if he's not, Then no big deal. Because I would then look to Offer Bryn Forbes ( 39% career 3 point shooter) 5 million. And Glenn Robinson 3rd ( 37 % career 3 point shooter 5 million. Then I'd offer Fred Van Fleet 14 million.
Then using our Taxpayer midlevel exception ( 6 million) I'd offer Nerlens Noel or Dwight Howard 6 million.

On draft night, I'd look to trade Oubre / Okobo/ Future Phoenix 2nd to Denver for Jerami Grant .........(resigned) / and the Houston pick.
Then once everyone is traded and signed ( free agency). I'd use our 11th pick on either Obi Toppin or Deni Avdija. And the Houston pick ( 20s') I'd draft Saddiq Bey! ( Our new TJ Warren).
Lastly, We resign Baynes and Kaminsky with their bird rights. So our opening roster could look like:

- Rubio/ Van Fleet/ Carter.
- Booker/ Forbes/ Cam.
- Bridges/ Glenn Robinson 3rd/ Saddiq Bey.
- Jerami Grant/ Deni Avdija / Frank Kaminsky.
- Ayton/ Baynes/ Nerlens Noel.

*** I really like this rosters' potential. There's a ton of athleticism, Shooting, Bench scoring, and defensive tenacity. We'll be drastically improved at all key areas.

[bwgood77]

Joe Harris is gonna get a big contract. I expect something like $45M / 3 years...or even more.

Korkmaz is not an option. He is under contract (not guaranteed, but it will be for sure) for next season.

The player that I really see as a realistic option is Langston Galloway.

He is a GREAT 3p shooter and a decent defender. Enough to get around $24M/3 years.

That would be fair contract for someone who can play next to Booker or Rubio and is in his prime (28yo).

Jeff Bower got him for the Pistons three years ago for $21M / 3 years, so he likes him for sure.

That doesn't sound very exciting. So that will probably be it.

[bwgood77]

Reggie Jackson is not very good in the context of being a starting PG. But in the context of depth, being behind Pat Bev and Lou Williams, he is pretty damn nice to have.

Speaking of PGs, if we want to upgrade our PG position, I'd suggest trying to do it this offseason by going hard after FVV, instead of in the 2021 free agency. There are literally no realistic PG targets for our team in 2021. 2022 is when Rubio expires, so waiting until then is also a possibility.

I love FVV, but Toronto would be crazy not to keep him, and I'm sure he wants to stay.

[Ghost of Kleine]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

Same!

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

These last 30 games are very important when planning for next year.

Few questions they will help answer:
Will this starting lineup continue to produce at it's current great net rating.
Who of the backup bigs do they want back, decisions need to be made on Saric, Baynes, Kaminsky, Dialo, and Bolden.
Can Jerome be counted on as a rotation guy next year.
Should Okobo have his option picked up and have a roster spot.

All of these will really impact how they approach the offseason. Hopefully they stay somewhat healthy to be able to get some real answers.

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I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

Same!

Jevon's really played a lot better of late. 3&d players are more useful at basically every other position, but I love him as a third-stringer. If things aren't going your way, or if the matchup's favorable, toss him out there and see if he can't mess up the opponent a little bit.

Okobo's ceiling is backup 1, but his floor remains out of the league.

[jredsaz]

I hope that Jones & Bower have the same idea - the interest in Kennard certainly seemed to indicate that they want to add a solid bench shot-creator.

Kennard's injury issues probably scuppered that deal, but that's the sort of player we need to look at.

I'd explore all of the following, and see who can be had the cheapest via trade or free agency:

VanVleet
Dinwiddie
Bogdan
Fournier
Devonte Graham
Schroder
Josh Richardson
Aaron Holiday
Sexton / Garland
Gary Harris
Derrick White

Derrick White is my favorite name on that list and a player I would flip our first for if it ends up in the 10-14 range.

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Edit *realistic* name on that list. Devonte is my favorite but no way he is going anywhere.

[bwgood77]

I hope that Jones & Bower have the same idea - the interest in Kennard certainly seemed to indicate that they want to add a solid bench shot-creator.

Kennard's injury issues probably scuppered that deal, but that's the sort of player we need to look at.

I'd explore all of the following, and see who can be had the cheapest via trade or free agency:

VanVleet
Dinwiddie
Bogdan
Fournier
Devonte Graham
Schroder
Josh Richardson
Aaron Holiday
Sexton / Garland
Gary Harris
Derrick White

Derrick White is my favorite name on that list and a player I would flip our first for if it ends up in the 10-14 range.

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Would you prefer him to Toppin and/or Haliburton? Or assuming they are gone at 10?

[Ghost of Kleine]

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

Yeah, I like Forbes for around 5 million ( no more). He is a career 39% 3 point shooter. And Alec Burks is a very good volume scorer too, I'd offer him around 5-6 million. But important to not forget Glenn Robinson the 3rd. He's a plus athlete, good at getting to the rim and he's a 37% 3 point shooter. I'd offer him around 5 million also. Really any of those 3 players would be great for our bench scoring. But I'd prefer Forbes and GR3 if I had a choice.

But all in all, Our front office just needs to be assertive.

[Blonde]

There's actually a lot of bargain options for solid shooters in this 2020 free agency. Meaning we shouldn't really need to expend any assets for them:

- Etwaun Moore-
39% career 3 point shooter8.5 million.
- Joe Harris-
42% career 3 point shooter8 million.
- Langston Galloway-
39% 3 point shootingfor the season 7 million.
- Justin Holiday-
41% 3 point shooting for the season 4 million.
- ***Bryn Forbes***-
39% Career 3 point shooter 3 million. Streaky but lethal 3 point shooter when he gets it going.
- Alec Burks-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 2.3 million. A big time scorer when given minutes.
- Glenn Robinson 3rd-
37% 3 point shooting for the season 1.8 million. Is a really solid scorer and plus athlete too.
- Furkan Korkmaz-
39 % 3 point shooting for the season 1.6 million.
- David Nwaba-*** unsigned.
42% 3 pointbshooting for the season

So all of these players are solid scoring options for our bench needs, And many could possibly be had relatively cheaply in free agency. My favorite options are:

Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Alec Burks, Glenn Robinson 3rd, and Furkan Korkmaz. David Nwaba for the minimum possibly. So we need to draft a top notch 3 and D power forward, And then sign two scorers for our bench, Then look to resign Baynes, and possibly sign in free agency ( Jerami Grant PO, Markieff Morris, Montrez Harrell, Jamychal Green, Patrick Patterson, ChristianWood? or trade for ( Bjelica)? a solid starting 4.

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Sorry! My bad man. Those were their current salaries. But for Harris I'd expect him to get around 10-12 million tops IF a team with cap space has him high on their free agency list.

I'd definitely be willing to pay him up to 10 million ( max) if he was interested. But if he's not, Then no big deal. Because I would then look to Offer Bryn Forbes ( 39% career 3 point shooter) 5 million. And Glenn Robinson 3rd ( 37 % career 3 point shooter 5 million. Then I'd offer Fred Van Fleet 14 million.
Then using our Taxpayer midlevel exception ( 6 million) I'd offer Nerlens Noel or Dwight Howard 6 million.

On draft night, I'd look to trade Oubre / Okobo/ Future Phoenix 2nd to Denver for Jerami Grant .........(resigned) / and the Houston pick.
Then once everyone is traded and signed ( free agency). I'd use our 11th pick on either Obi Toppin or Deni Avdija. And the Houston pick ( 20s') I'd draft Saddiq Bey! ( Our new TJ Warren).
Lastly, We resign Baynes and Kaminsky with their bird rights. So our opening roster could look like:

- Rubio/ Van Fleet/ Carter.
- Booker/ Forbes/ Cam.
- Bridges/ Glenn Robinson 3rd/ Saddiq Bey.
- Jerami Grant/ Deni Avdija / Frank Kaminsky.
- Ayton/ Baynes/ Nerlens Noel.

*** I really like this rosters' potential. There's a ton of athleticism, Shooting, Bench scoring, and defensive tenacity. We'll be drastically improved at all key areas.

Just a few things to keep in mind when you’re coming up with scenarios like this...

The draft comes before free agency. That means it would be impossible for the Denver trade to go through because they do not have the ability to sign & trade Grant until free agency hits. You can only trade for player currently under contract on draft night.

You cannot use all your capspace and then still use the midlevel exception. The MLE is not available to teams “operating under the cap” which we are. And even if we were operating over the cap, it wouldn’t be the taxpayer MLE because our salaries are far below the luxury tax apron, so it would be the full MLE. We would be able to use the “room exception” which is a smaller amount available to teams below the soft cap. We used our full room exception to sign Kaminsky last summer because we were operating under the cap. We only exceeded the cap by exercising the room exception and Oubre’s bird rights.

And another small thing, we have Kaminsky on a team option right now so we would just exercise the option if we wanted him back. Also, Frank and Baynes have only spent one year here so we don’t have their full bird rights - we have their non-bird rights, which means you can only exceed the cap to resign them if the first year salary does not exceed 120% of their current salary (I think). This is pretty irrelevant with Frank, but it means we almost definitely will not be able to exceed the cap to resign Baynes using this method (I’m assuming he’ll want more than 6.5 mill next year).

Otherwise, I think Joe Harris gets a lot more than 10 mill per year and FVV probably won’t accept 14 mill. I’d be pretty stoked to get Obi Toppin though.

[jredsaz]

I hope that Jones & Bower have the same idea - the interest in Kennard certainly seemed to indicate that they want to add a solid bench shot-creator.

Kennard's injury issues probably scuppered that deal, but that's the sort of player we need to look at.

I'd explore all of the following, and see who can be had the cheapest via trade or free agency:

VanVleet
Dinwiddie
Bogdan
Fournier
Devonte Graham
Schroder
Josh Richardson
Aaron Holiday
Sexton / Garland
Gary Harris
Derrick White

Derrick White is my favorite name on that list and a player I would flip our first for if it ends up in the 10-14 range.

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Would you prefer him to Toppin and/or Haliburton? Or assuming they are gone at 10?

Over either. I think you can find talent like that available next year in the middle of the draft. Would like to add more vet talent this offseason and White for that first would actually save money on the cap.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

I think Harris will be closer to 50/4 than 8m per year. If not higher - he can really shoot it. Ingles I believe got 52/4 so thats where I think Harris finishes

Burks though - will be cheaper
Forbes might be an option - but can't go off that one game

Thats why Kennard made so much damn sense.

Joe Harris is gonna get a big contract. I expect something like $45M / 3 years...or even more.

Korkmaz is not an option. He is under contract (not guaranteed, but it will be for sure) for next season.

The player that I really see as a realistic option is Langston Galloway.

He is a GREAT 3p shooter and a decent defender. Enough to get around $24M/3 years.

That would be fair contract for someone who can play next to Booker or Rubio and is in his prime (28yo).

Jeff Bower got him for the Pistons three years ago for $21M / 3 years, so he likes him for sure.

I could get on board with that perhaps? Ultimately, though I believe that we'll find at least one or two solid scorers from that list. As for Korkmaz, With Philly also having Burks and GR3 on their roster, At least one of the three should be the odd man out. Again, Overall, I won't be upset if we manage to walk out of free agency with at least two solid shooters/ scorers from that list. If we can somehow get Van Fleet ( 2 yr deal)? and one of those scorers from the list, We'll be much improved. Then get a solid rotation big ( Morris or Harrell or Green or Patterson)? And finally, resign Baynes and Kaminsky using their bird rights.

And also keep an eye out for Bjelica possibly being waived too. But If he's not, Then maybe trade Oubre / Diallo/Okobo and a future first ( 2023 )? for Markannen/ Dunn/ and Felicio.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vkc9vw7

Then when Dunn and Felicio are off the books that summer head into 2021 with our core of:

Rubio/ Booker/ Bridges/ Markannen/ Ayton. Then fill out the bench with our what 25 - 30 million in cap space???

- Van Fleet **( 2nd year of 2 yr deal).
- GR3 or Forbes ( 2nd year of 2 yr deal).
- James Ennis for ( 4 million).
- Jerami Grant for 15 million.
- Baynes 2nd year of ( 3 yr deal).

[bwgood77]

I could get on board with that perhaps? Ultimately, though I believe that we'll find at least one or two solid scorers from that list. As for Korkmaz, With Philly also having Burks and GR3 on their roster, At least one of the three should be the odd man out. Again, Overall, I won't be upset if we manage to walk out of free agency with at least two solid shooters/ scorers from that list. If we can somehow get Van Fleet ( 2 yr deal)? and one of those scorers from the list, We'll be much improved. Then get a solid rotation big ( Morris or Harrell or Green or Patterson)? And finally, resign Baynes and Kaminsky using their bird rights.

And also keep an eye out for Bjelica possibly being waived too. But If he's not, Then maybe trade Oubre / Diallo/Okobo and a future first ( 2023 )? for Markannen/ Dunn/ and Felicio.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=vkc9vw7

Then when Dunn and Felicio are off the books that summer head into 2021 with our core of:

Rubio/ Booker/ Bridges/ Markannen/ Ayton. Then fill out the bench with our what 25 - 30 million in cap space???

- Van Fleet **( 2nd year of 2 yr deal).
- GR3 or Forbes ( 2nd year of 2 yr deal).
- James Ennis for ( 4 million).
- Jerami Grant for 15 million.
- Baynes 2nd year of ( 3 yr deal).

Just curious...why do you insist Fred Van's last name his Fleet? You obviously see everyone else refer to him as Fred Van Vleet or FVV, but you continue it. Do you just disagree with the way he likes to spell his name?

[lilfishi22]

I honestly want back Carter for next season. He's a dawg on both ends

Same!

Jevon's really played a lot better of late. 3&d players are more useful at basically every other position, but I love him as a third-stringer. If things aren't going your way, or if the matchup's favorable, toss him out there and see if he can't mess up the opponent a little bit.

Okobo's ceiling is backup 1, but his floor remains out of the league.

100% agreed

Carter is the type of player that can defend both guard positions and some wings too and that's a huge asset to have, especially if he continues to shoot at above league average from 3 because he would then be able to play in a bunch of different line ups. With Okobo, I see his ceiling as a scoring 1 that can sometimes make plays. Not that it isn't valuable but I just think these types of players, in particular at this 2nd/3rd string level, are a dime a dozen in this league. For me, choosing between the two (if we must), would just come down to the value of these two different player profiles. I think I'm in line with the league in valuing the 3&D player more than the relatively 1-dimensional scoring guard.

[jredsaz]

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Sorry! My bad man. Those were their current salaries. But for Harris I'd expect him to get around 10-12 million tops IF a team with cap space has him high on their free agency list.

I'd definitely be willing to pay him up to 10 million ( max) if he was interested. But if he's not, Then no big deal. Because I would then look to Offer Bryn Forbes ( 39% career 3 point shooter) 5 million. And Glenn Robinson 3rd ( 37 % career 3 point shooter 5 million. Then I'd offer Fred Van Fleet 14 million.
Then using our Taxpayer midlevel exception ( 6 million) I'd offer Nerlens Noel or Dwight Howard 6 million.

On draft night, I'd look to trade Oubre / Okobo/ Future Phoenix 2nd to Denver for Jerami Grant .........(resigned) / and the Houston pick.
Then once everyone is traded and signed ( free agency). I'd use our 11th pick on either Obi Toppin or Deni Avdija. And the Houston pick ( 20s') I'd draft Saddiq Bey! ( Our new TJ Warren).
Lastly, We resign Baynes and Kaminsky with their bird rights. So our opening roster could look like:

- Rubio/ Van Fleet/ Carter.
- Booker/ Forbes/ Cam.
- Bridges/ Glenn Robinson 3rd/ Saddiq Bey.
- Jerami Grant/ Deni Avdija / Frank Kaminsky.
- Ayton/ Baynes/ Nerlens Noel.

*** I really like this rosters' potential. There's a ton of athleticism, Shooting, Bench scoring, and defensive tenacity. We'll be drastically improved at all key areas.

Just a few things to keep in mind when you’re coming up with scenarios like this...

The draft comes before free agency. That means it would be impossible for the Denver trade to go through because they do not have the ability to sign & trade Grant until free agency hits. You can only trade for player currently under contract on draft night.

You cannot use all your capspace and then still use the midlevel exception. The MLE is not available to teams “operating under the cap” which we are. And even if we were operating over the cap, it wouldn’t be the taxpayer MLE because our salaries are far below the luxury tax apron, so it would be the full MLE. We would be able to use the “room exception” which is a smaller amount available to teams below the soft cap. We used our full room exception to sign Kaminsky last summer because we were operating under the cap. We only exceeded the cap by exercising the room exception and Oubre’s bird rights.

And another small thing, we have Kaminsky on a team option right now so we would just exercise the option if we wanted him back. Also, Frank and Baynes have only spent one year here so we don’t have their full bird rights - we have their non-bird rights, which means you can only exceed the cap to resign them if the first year salary does not exceed 120% of their current salary (I think). This is pretty irrelevant with Frank, but it means we almost definitely will not be able to exceed the cap to resign Baynes using this method (I’m assuming he’ll want more than 6.5 mill next year).

Otherwise, I think Joe Harris gets a lot more than 10 mill per year and FVV probably won’t accept 14 mill. I’d be pretty stoked to get Obi Toppin though.

Think FVV gets closer to $20 mil and Harris will get about $15 mil. Bet Galo gets paid. Davis, Ingram, and Bogdanovic go back to their respective teams I would guess. Think Derozan and Drummond are wildcards.

Bertans, Dragic, Burks, Clarkson, Wood are guys I like in the next tier that hopefully get left out of the limited funds available this sunmer.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

Of that list Joe harris for 8 million stands out. Are you sure he can be had for that amt? Seems low imo but if so that'd be a great add along with spending on Jerami Grant, then we can focus our draft on acquiring a PG that can hit shots and eventually take over for Rubio.

Sorry! My bad man. Those were their current salaries. But for Harris I'd expect him to get around 10-12 million tops IF a team with cap space has him high on their free agency list.

I'd definitely be willing to pay him up to 10 million ( max) if he was interested. But if he's not, Then no big deal. Because I would then look to Offer Bryn Forbes ( 39% career 3 point shooter) 5 million. And Glenn Robinson 3rd ( 37 % career 3 point shooter 5 million. Then I'd offer Fred Van Fleet 14 million.
Then using our Taxpayer midlevel exception ( 6 million) I'd offer Nerlens Noel or Dwight Howard 6 million.

On draft night, I'd look to trade Oubre / Okobo/ Future Phoenix 2nd to Denver for Jerami Grant .........(resigned) / and the Houston pick.
Then once everyone is traded and signed ( free agency). I'd use our 11th pick on either Obi Toppin or Deni Avdija. And the Houston pick ( 20s') I'd draft Saddiq Bey! ( Our new TJ Warren).
Lastly, We resign Baynes and Kaminsky with their bird rights. So our opening roster could look like:

- Rubio/ Van Fleet/ Carter.
- Booker/ Forbes/ Cam.
- Bridges/ Glenn Robinson 3rd/ Saddiq Bey.
- Jerami Grant/ Deni Avdija / Frank Kaminsky.
- Ayton/ Baynes/ Nerlens Noel.

*** I really like this rosters' potential. There's a ton of athleticism, Shooting, Bench scoring, and defensive tenacity. We'll be drastically improved at all key areas.

Just a few things to keep in mind when you’re coming up with scenarios like this...

The draft comes before free agency. That means it would be impossible for the Denver trade to go through because they do not have the ability to sign & trade Grant until free agency hits. You can only trade for player currently under contract on draft night.

You cannot use all your capspace and then still use the midlevel exception. The MLE is not available to teams “operating under the cap” which we are. And even if we were operating over the cap, it wouldn’t be the taxpayer MLE because our salaries are far below the luxury tax apron, so it would be the full MLE. We would be able to use the “room exception” which is a smaller amount available to teams below the soft cap. We used our full room exception to sign Kaminsky last summer because we were operating under the cap. We only exceeded the cap by exercising the room exception and Oubre’s bird rights.

And another small thing, we have Kaminsky on a team option right now so we would just exercise the option if we wanted him back. Also, Frank and Baynes have only spent one year here so we don’t have their full bird rights - we have their non-bird rights, which means you can only exceed the cap to resign them if the first year salary does not exceed 120% of their current salary (I think). This is pretty irrelevant with Frank, but it means we almost definitely will not be able to exceed the cap to resign Baynes using this method (I’m assuming he’ll want more than 6.5 mill next year).

Otherwise, I think Joe Harris gets a lot more than 10 mill per year and FVV probably won’t accept 14 mill. I’d be pretty stoked to get Obi Toppin though.

Thanks for the clarification on those points man. I appreciate it.