clyde21 wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
List of 5 star recruits under Roy since 2010 (the start of the big time OAD era)
Harrison Barnes (#1 overall recruit): Was viewed as the next great prospect, wasn't viewed as a top 5 pick after his freshman year so returned and ended up going 7th overall after his 2nd year.
Reggie Bullock (15th overall): Played in college for 3 years, went 25th overall
James Michael McAdoo (7th overall): Played 3 years in college, went undrafted
P.J Hairston (13th overall): Played 2 years in college, then went to the G League, then got drafted
Isaiah Hicks (16th overall): Played 4 years in college, went undrafted
Justin Jackson (9th overall): Played 3 years, drafted 15th overall
Theo Pinson (15th overall): Played 4 years, went undrafted. 12 of the top 15 players went OAD in this class, Theo and Justin were 2 of the 3 that didnt.
Tony Bradley (25th overall): OAD, 28th pick overall
Nassir Little (3rd overall): OAD, 25th pick overall
Coby White(25th overall): OAD, 7th pick overall
So in the last decade UNC has had 10 5* recruits. Out of those 10, 1 definitely helped his draft stock (Coby), 1 pretty much stayed even (Bradley), everyone else ended up sticking around for years and consistently saw their draft stock drop.
Dont get me wrong all schools have guys like this, Duke has guys like Bolden and Duval while UK guys like the twins and Dakari Johnson. But man UNC's track record is just flat out bad. Cole Anthony's stock is dropping extremely fast and no one is talking about Armando Bacot's draft stock right now, so add 2 more misses.
Everyone got drafted in the right spot. Roy didn't make them seem worse than they were, he simply didn't make them seem better than they were.
If they were drafted higher they would've been exposed in the NBA.
point still stands, if I'm a top recruit why would I go play for Roy if 1) he won't develop me or 2) put me in a position to get drafted high?
like Duke pointed out...only ONE player saw his stock improve under Roy, that's a big deal.
It is very well known that Roy has his players fit into his system, not have his system fit around his players. Compare that to K and Cal who build their system around their players. Now Im not saying this in a negative way for Roy his resume speaks for itself, he has done a fantastic job at UNC.
But when it comes to a place for high end recruits to shine, it isn't a great place. Would Stanley Johnson still have been drafted in the top 10 if he went to UNC? Or would he have followed a similar path too Little? I have a feeling it would've been similar too Little. Him being raw, he would've struggled fitting into the system like Little did.
I just think there are 2 drastically different schemes, Cal and K build their system around the star players while Roy has his players fit into his system.