2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[BobbieL]

I still don't get why the Pistons didn't try to trade Kieff and get a 2nd round pick for him. I mean, his contract was a few million - I think most teams had a contract to swap to get this done. Maybe I am wrong about the contract but seems like they could have done something. Maybe he goes to the Clippers with Mook. He will have interest: Lakers who are wanting somebody with Reggie J and Collison saying No!; maybe the Heat to back up Bam; maybe the Raptors. I don't think the Bucks as they just got somebody I think. HIs market should be strong. He is too tall for the Rockets


EDIT: The Bucks got Marvin Williams.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

I still don't get why the Pistons didn't try to trade Kieff and get a 2nd round pick for him. I mean, his contract was a few million - I think most teams had a contract to swap to get this done. Maybe I am wrong about the contract but seems like they could have done something. Maybe he goes to the Clippers with Mook. He will have interest: Lakers who are wanting somebody with Reggie J and Collison saying No!; maybe the Heat to back up Bam; maybe the Raptors. I don't think the Bucks as they just got somebody I think. HIs market should be strong. He is too tall for the Rockets


EDIT: The Bucks got Marvin Williams.

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Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

[BobbieL]

I still don't get why the Pistons didn't try to trade Kieff and get a 2nd round pick for him. I mean, his contract was a few million - I think most teams had a contract to swap to get this done. Maybe I am wrong about the contract but seems like they could have done something. Maybe he goes to the Clippers with Mook. He will have interest: Lakers who are wanting somebody with Reggie J and Collison saying No!; maybe the Heat to back up Bam; maybe the Raptors. I don't think the Bucks as they just got somebody I think. HIs market should be strong. He is too tall for the Rockets


EDIT: The Bucks got Marvin Williams.

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Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

This summer - I would rather have Mook than Kieff. And since not many teams have cap space, Suns or a team with cap space might be able to get . But than again, teams have the MLE

[bwgood77]

Steph Curry's target return is March 1st. We play them on Feb 29th.

[bwgood77]

Found this on the Raptors board....they were showing how good and versatile some of their defenders were...I noticed Bridges on there in some pretty good company...(bunched up with Kawhi, George, Butler and PJ Tucker)

[BobbieL]

Steph Curry's target return is March 1st. We play them on Feb 29th.

That will be good. Hopefully Baynes and SAric are still healthy. Kaminsky is still a few weeks away per Rankin or Mizell.

My goal the next 27 games: 14 wins +

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[Saberestar]

I still don't get why the Pistons didn't try to trade Kieff and get a 2nd round pick for him. I mean, his contract was a few million - I think most teams had a contract to swap to get this done. Maybe I am wrong about the contract but seems like they could have done something. Maybe he goes to the Clippers with Mook. He will have interest: Lakers who are wanting somebody with Reggie J and Collison saying No!; maybe the Heat to back up Bam; maybe the Raptors. I don't think the Bucks as they just got somebody I think. HIs market should be strong. He is too tall for the Rockets


EDIT: The Bucks got Marvin Williams.

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Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

Bower doesn't have any connection with Markieff, he wasn't there when they signed him.

And Markieff Morris is a mediocre player who is not better than Saric. Why are we gonna try to sign him over Saric or even over Kaminsky who has a TO for $5M? And obviously he is worse than Baynes.

Just look at his play and numbers during these last couple of years... Markieff is a decent backup PF at best who has past his prime (31 years old before the start of next season). I want to upgrade our roster, not to be worse next season.

[BobbieL]

I still don't get why the Pistons didn't try to trade Kieff and get a 2nd round pick for him. I mean, his contract was a few million - I think most teams had a contract to swap to get this done. Maybe I am wrong about the contract but seems like they could have done something. Maybe he goes to the Clippers with Mook. He will have interest: Lakers who are wanting somebody with Reggie J and Collison saying No!; maybe the Heat to back up Bam; maybe the Raptors. I don't think the Bucks as they just got somebody I think. HIs market should be strong. He is too tall for the Rockets


EDIT: The Bucks got Marvin Williams.

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Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

Bower doesn't have any connection with Markieff, he wasn't there when they signed him.

And Markieff Morris is a mediocre player who is not better than Saric. Why are we gonna try to sign him over Saric or even over Kaminsky who has a TO for $5M? And obviously he is worse than Baynes.

Just look at his play and numbers during this last couple of years... Markieff is a decent backup PF at best who has past his prime (31 years old before the start of next season). I want to upgrade our roster, not to be worse next season.

Gambo is reporting the Suns will not be bringing back either Baynes or Saric next year. Again, if he is right, he will let us know. If he is wrong, well "things changed, my sauces got it wrong."

Kaminsky on a team option seems to be a no brainer unless you need cap space for the RIGHT LONG TERM player.

Say the Suns sign a player or two in Free Agency that are one year deals with team options in year two, keep Kaminsky and Diallo
That would be a decent amount of expiring contracts for the summer of 2021: Oubre, Frank, Diallo and two free agents.

Something to think about - thats why Millsap might make a lot of sense especially with how the current starting 5 are playing.

[TheLogician]

Were there no takers for Baynes and Saric because of injuries? I'd have taken second round picks, better than nothing.

[Saberestar]

Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

Bower doesn't have any connection with Markieff, he wasn't there when they signed him.

And Markieff Morris is a mediocre player who is not better than Saric. Why are we gonna try to sign him over Saric or even over Kaminsky who has a TO for $5M? And obviously he is worse than Baynes.

Just look at his play and numbers during this last couple of years... Markieff is a decent backup PF at best who has past his prime (31 years old before the start of next season). I want to upgrade our roster, not to be worse next season.

Gambo is reporting the Suns will not be bringing back either Baynes or Saric next year. Again, if he is right, he will let us know. If he is wrong, well "things changed, my sauces got it wrong."

Kaminsky on a team option seems to be a no brainer unless you need cap space for the RIGHT LONG TERM player.

Say the Suns sign a player or two in Free Agency that are one year deals with team options in year two, keep Kaminsky and Diallo
That would be a decent amount of expiring contracts for the summer of 2021: Oubre, Frank, Diallo and two free agents.

Something to think about - thats why Millsap might make a lot of sense especially with how the current starting 5 are playing.

Did he say that as his opinion or as an info that he has heard?

I think it is too early to decide things like that with 27 games to go.

[bwgood77]

Man you're really fast bro! You beat me to the post as always.......lol.

Anyways, I know that no one here thinks that Markieff is a viable option, nor would he ever consider coming back to the valley. But I think that considering we have a new, more player friendly front office, And Bowers has a connection with him through Detroit, It'd at least be worth looking into. Again, He's a veteran 4 with face up capabilities, And has been hitting the 3 at a 39% rate overall. He'd also bring a level of toughness and an edge to our team for our late season push.

I just think that his time away from Phoenix and apart from his brother may have very well given him an added level of maturity and perhaps even a more professional perspective than before. So at the very least, I'd enquire about the possibility.

Nevermind, I just read the 2nd tweet that you posted.

Bower doesn't have any connection with Markieff, he wasn't there when they signed him.

And Markieff Morris is a mediocre player who is not better than Saric. Why are we gonna try to sign him over Saric or even over Kaminsky who has a TO for $5M? And obviously he is worse than Baynes.

Just look at his play and numbers during this last couple of years... Markieff is a decent backup PF at best who has past his prime (31 years old before the start of next season). I want to upgrade our roster, not to be worse next season.

Gambo is reporting the Suns will not be bringing back either Baynes or Saric next year. Again, if he is right, he will let us know. If he is wrong, well "things changed, my sauces got it wrong."

Kaminsky on a team option seems to be a no brainer unless you need cap space for the RIGHT LONG TERM player.

Say the Suns sign a player or two in Free Agency that are one year deals with team options in year two, keep Kaminsky and Diallo
That would be a decent amount of expiring contracts for the summer of 2021: Oubre, Frank, Diallo and two free agents.

Something to think about - thats why Millsap might make a lot of sense especially with how the current starting 5 are playing.

He doesn't know anything. He's guessing. Didn't he say he didn't "think" we were bringing them back? I mean I can definitely imagine Baynes might want to move on to a contender if he gets a good offer. But I wouldn't be surprised if we wanted him back, maybe depending on his play and impact (on and off court) down the stretch. He's obviously made a big impact on Ayton.

[bwgood77]

Phoenix is 7-3 when Booker, Ayton, Baynes and point guard Ricky Rubio are all available to play, and 14-12 when Booker, Baynes and Rubio are available.

https://theathletic.com/1623158/2020/02/21/returning-to-health-deandre-aytons-development-among-stretch-run-storylines/?source=shared-article

[LukasBMW]

Phoenix is 7-3 when Booker, Ayton, Baynes and point guard Ricky Rubio are all available to play, and 14-12 when Booker, Baynes and Rubio are available.

https://theathletic.com/1623158/2020/02/21/returning-to-health-deandre-aytons-development-among-stretch-run-storylines/?source=shared-article

Yup. Injuries and suspensions have killed us this year!

[KLEON]

Wouldn't it be nice to see Marcus vs Markieff and it ends up in a Rocky vs Apollo type ending?

[Boxy99]

Were there no takers for Baynes and Saric because of injuries? I'd have taken second round picks, better than nothing.

On current form other teams where probably asking for our second round Picks to take them

[Blonde]

Wouldn't it be nice to see Marcus vs Markieff and it ends up in a Rocky vs Apollo type ending?

I’d prefer a Drago vs Apollo ending except they both beat each other to death

[Damkac]

Wouldn't it be nice to see Marcus vs Markieff and it ends up in a Rocky vs Apollo type ending?

I’d prefer a Drago vs Apollo ending except they both beat each other to death

They only beat normal guys, much smaller than them and even then they must bring their homies for help.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

What's the deal with Devin Booker and threes? Do we need to put ball racks out there?

I'm starting to think that Monty deserves more criticism than I've been giving him. This team has good shooters, but they don't make shots. It's like the opposite of what's going on with Houston. We're not in rhythm, we don't play with confidence or swagger. We're thinking too much, playing scared, without a chip on our shoulder.

I don't want to trade these guys away because I just know they'll play better once they're on a different team. We could bring in more shooters, but they'll just be taking minutes away from other guys who can shoot. We've rotated through coaches, overhauled the roster... what the f*** gives?

[Kerrsed]

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