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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#221 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:54 pm

Papi_swav wrote:hmmm maybe so, you might be right. But there might be a guy that slips and becomes a very good player. I just don't see what a #17-24 pick can bring us back. I wouldn't mind packaging the pick with Musa, but I rather keep Kurucs honestly, he's worth more to us. Musa is borderline not an NBA player.

If we're trading the pick for another team future first, I guess I wouldn't be opposed to that either unless it's the Bucks or Clippers pick, or a team we kind of know that will be one of the top teams. But even then, we're trading a 1st, let's say #19 pick, and Musa for a future first that might turn out to be a #24 pick next year or in 2 years. So we're trading a 1st with a player and not getting anything better in return is my point. I know it might be better players in next year draft but I rather just draft a guy and let him develop, like we're doing with Claxton. We might get a steal. We might get a guy that plays great right out the gate like Mitchell etc.. We have options though, glad we at least got a pick this year.


If you told me i could trade this years pick. Guranteed at #19 for a future pick, gauranteed to be 20-28 i would make that trade no questions asked.

Reason being is the 2021 pick would have more trade deadline value than anyone we picked at #19. Maybe the 19 pick would turn out to be awesome, but they wouldnt get the playing time to be awesome by the 2021 trade deadline. And really if its "win-now" mode the next 3 years you want trade assets over young developmental prospects.

Teams are always looking for 1st in deadline deals. especially since there is no immediate salary attached to it. For instance last years #19 pick, Luka Samanic probably has less value in a trade right now than the first round pick of top 4 seeds

We likely get more current and future value out of that pick by trading it.... unless like i said we stash a euro?

but who knows
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#222 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:39 pm

I think we should use the pick as a trade asset if possible. we really don't have time to develop young kids anymore, next year is big boy pants time and outside of Claxton no one will have any excuses. It's time to win consistently and be in the upper echelon of the league.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#223 » by kamaze » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:05 pm

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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#224 » by Prokorov » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:17 pm

kamaze wrote:
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He loves the hot takes.


you love jeremy lin and the knicks



Like euchus said you gots to chill.


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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#225 » by GTR11 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:43 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I think we should use the pick as a trade asset if possible. we really don't have time to develop young kids anymore, next year is big boy pants time and outside of Claxton no one will have any excuses. It's time to win consistently and be in the upper echelon of the league.

I was really looking for Musa to break out but he just ain't ready. He needs few more years to develop imo. He's Bojan type of player in making from what I've seen this far. Definitely will break out at some point.
Nic got a lot of upside. I can see him taking over Allen next year.
Rodi... I don't know what Kenny and FO doing. He definitely has role on our team right now and going forward. I think it's his off court thing that keeps him on the bench. I can see him replacing Chandler next year.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#226 » by DarkXaero » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:01 pm

With Kyrie now out for the rest of the season, the spotlight is now on Levert (and Dinwiddie to a lesser extent). IMO, this summer, we should make a decision on Levert.
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Post#227 » by GTR11 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:35 pm

I think Marks should explore few trades that can fetch first round pick for Allen. With Nic we have a luxury to get that first or player we want. Better do it this off-season before his value plummets even further.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#228 » by ProspectPark » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:51 pm

GTR11 wrote:I think Marks should explore few trades that can fetch first round pick for Allen. With Nic we have a luxury to get that first or player we want. Better do it this off-season before his value plummets even further.


If you have a 1-2 year window to win a championship, why would you trade good role players on cheap contracts for draft picks?
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#229 » by GTR11 » Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:11 pm

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GTR11 wrote:I think Marks should explore few trades that can fetch first round pick for Allen. With Nic we have a luxury to get that first or player we want. Better do it this off-season before his value plummets even further.


If you have a 1-2 year window to win a championship, why would you trade good role players on cheap contracts for draft picks?

Because it's an asset that can get you good player. Team that is over the cap with not much to work with should always explore it's options.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#230 » by ProspectPark » Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:10 am

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GTR11 wrote:I think Marks should explore few trades that can fetch first round pick for Allen. With Nic we have a luxury to get that first or player we want. Better do it this off-season before his value plummets even further.


If you have a 1-2 year window to win a championship, why would you trade good role players on cheap contracts for draft picks?

Because it's an asset that can get you good player. Team that is over the cap with not much to work with should always explore it's options.


Team is over the cap. Trading him would create a hole at C.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#231 » by GTR11 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:36 pm

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GTR11 wrote:I think Marks should explore few trades that can fetch first round pick for Allen. With Nic we have a luxury to get that first or player we want. Better do it this off-season before his value plummets even further.


If you have a 1-2 year window to win a championship, why would you trade good role players on cheap contracts for draft picks?

He's two best values right now is that he yound and on a rookie contact.
Rim running C dime a dozen.
Picks valuable assets that can help acquire players.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#232 » by GTR11 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:39 pm

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7footMONSTER wrote:
If you have a 1-2 year window to win a championship, why would you trade good role players on cheap contracts for draft picks?

Because it's an asset that can get you good player. Team that is over the cap with not much to work with should always explore it's options.


Team is over the cap. Trading him would create a hole at C.

I'd rather look for a combo player that can play 4/5 and capable to play on both ends. Cappella and Drummund trades should tell what rim running C value out there, for obvious reasons.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#233 » by ProspectPark » Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:50 pm

GTR11 wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:Because it's an asset that can get you good player. Team that is over the cap with not much to work with should always explore it's options.


Team is over the cap. Trading him would create a hole at C.

I'd rather look for a combo player that can play 4/5 and capable to play on both ends. Cappella and Drummund trades should tell what rim running C value out there, for obvious reasons.


If it’s for an actual player who can help immediately that’s fine, but trading him for a pick which may or may not amount to anything doesn’t really help us during the 2 year window.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#234 » by GTR11 » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:10 pm

7footMONSTER wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
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Team is over the cap. Trading him would create a hole at C.

I'd rather look for a combo player that can play 4/5 and capable to play on both ends. Cappella and Drummund trades should tell what rim running C value out there, for obvious reasons.


If it’s for an actual player who can help immediately that’s fine, but trading him for a pick which may or may not amount to anything doesn’t really help us during the 2 year window.

3 way trades rarely happen and we know why Billy King was king of those.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#235 » by DarkXaero » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:45 pm

3 Way trades happen all the time, we just saw a bunch of multi-team trades happening this past trade deadline.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#236 » by GTR11 » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:16 am

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Post#237 » by DarkXaero » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:16 am

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Not sure who he is. Never heard of him.
Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#238 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:41 am

DarkXaero wrote:
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Not sure who he is. Never heard of him.
Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.


Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#239 » by DarkXaero » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:53 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
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GTR11 wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Not sure who he is. Never heard of him.
Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.


Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.
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Re: Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season 

Post#240 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:57 am

DarkXaero wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.


Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.


But Jrue Holiday would be kind of a 3rd star, at 19/5/7 he'd be a significant upgrade over Caris LeVert.
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