Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

akhan786 · Post #241 » by **akhan786** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:09 am

That package could get us Beal + big

We're title FAVORITES with healthy Kyrie, Beal, KD

MrDollarBills · Post #242 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:12 am

akhan786 wrote:That package could get us Beal + big

We're title FAVORITES with healthy Kyrie, Beal, KD

I have no issue with trading assets for Beal. I just don't want to lose Spencer Dinwiddie.

akhan786 · Post #243 » by **akhan786** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:13 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
akhan786 wrote:That package could get us Beal + big

We're title FAVORITES with healthy Kyrie, Beal, KD

I have no issue with trading assets for Beal. I just don't want to lose Spencer Dinwiddie.

Our bench would collapse without Dinwiddie so I agree. Maybe we could do Levert + Allen for Beal?

MrDollarBills · Post #244 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:15 am

akhan786 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
akhan786 wrote:That package could get us Beal + big

We're title FAVORITES with healthy Kyrie, Beal, KD

I have no issue with trading assets for Beal. I just don't want to lose Spencer Dinwiddie.

Our bench would collapse without Dinwiddie so I agree. Maybe we could do Levert + Allen for Beal?

It would have to be LeVert, Prince, Allen, and probably two lottery protected 1sts for Beal.

GTR11 · Post #245 » by **GTR11** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:23 am

DarkXaero wrote:
GTR11 wrote:

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Not sure who he is. Never heard of him.
Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.

Ok thx. I thought he might be another @APooch, I don't really follow them all or be visiting ND for some years now.

ecuhus1981 · Post #246 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:00 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
akhan786 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
I have no issue with trading assets for Beal. I just don't want to lose Spencer Dinwiddie.

Our bench would collapse without Dinwiddie so I agree. Maybe we could do Levert + Allen for Beal?

It would have to be LeVert, Prince, Allen, and probably two lottery protected 1sts for Beal.

Don't threaten me with a good time. I'm not as high on Brad as I was last offseason, but I do think that his skill set would fit in better than those guys next to KD & KI. If we can keep Spencer, you have to do it.

DarkXaero · Post #247 » by **DarkXaero** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:28 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.

But Jrue Holiday would be kind of a 3rd star, at 19/5/7 he'd be a significant upgrade over Caris LeVert.

I don't think Jrue is a true star player, he's significantly better than Levert, but he isn't exactly a very good offensive player. If you check his scoring efficiency over the years, its subpar, especially this year (52% TS%). I think he can be efficient playing next to proper star players, but not on his own. When I say 3rd star, I mean more like a Bradley Beal type trade, which would require us to gut the team's assets.

Prokorov · Post #248 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:07 pm

DarkXaero wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:Seems to be a fan who doesn't know ****. I mean he may be right, but it's his opinion, not something he actually knows.

Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.

When Durant is back i dont really see an imbalance.

Ball handlers: Kyrie, Dinwiddie, Levert, Musa. Pinson

Wings: KD, Harris, Prince Temple, Chandler, TLC, Kurucs

Bigs: Allen, Jordan

throw claxton at wing or big. but thats pretty balance with qualtiy and depth at all 3 spots. I think we could use a 4th ball handler with Kyrie/Levert being so injury prone. maybe a 3rd string big if claxton looks more like a wing.

I'd trade some combo of the philly pick, kurucs, musa for a lefit 4th ball handler if i could. or use the MLE on one

Prokorov · Post #249 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:07 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I think we should use the pick as a trade asset if possible. we really don't have time to develop young kids anymore, next year is big boy pants time and outside of Claxton no one will have any excuses. It's time to win consistently and be in the upper echelon of the league.

Id prefer to trade the pick for a future pick. we will want those assets for an inseason move

Prokorov · Post #250 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:10 pm

GTR11 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I think we should use the pick as a trade asset if possible. we really don't have time to develop young kids anymore, next year is big boy pants time and outside of Claxton no one will have any excuses. It's time to win consistently and be in the upper echelon of the league.

I was really looking for Musa to break out but he just ain't ready. He needs few more years to develop imo. He's Bojan type of player in making from what I've seen this far. Definitely will break out at some point.
Nic got a lot of upside. I can see him taking over Allen next year.
Rodi... I don't know what Kenny and FO doing. He definitely has role on our team right now and going forward. I think it's his off court thing that keeps him on the bench. I can see him replacing Chandler next year.

Claxon is light years behind allen.

-he is a worse screener (allen is an greatone) in an offense that lives on high screen and roll and off ball screens for shooters
-he is significantly worse as a roll man (allen ranks among the leagues best as a roll man)
-he is significantly worse shotblocker and worse overall defensively
-he is smaller and weaker

there isa 0.0% chance he overtakes allen. and in genrally he is a year or two away from seeing real time as a big. maybe sooner as a wing if he cant improve his 3

Prokorov · Post #251 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:12 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Sounds like someone talking out of their ass.

LeVert, Allen, Dinwiddie, Prince aren't getting moved unless it's a 3rd all star player that makes sense for us in return.

Dinwiddie especially isn't getting moved because we don't know how many games Kyrie can play without getting hurt.

I don't feasibly see much movement. Harris will be resigned, we'll add a veteran with the exception. Some end of bench guys might not be back next season as we're looking to add veteran players for a championship roster.
I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.

But Jrue Holiday would be kind of a 3rd star, at 19/5/7 he'd be a significant upgrade over Caris LeVert.

Holiday would certainly be a 3rd star. he is better than beal and one of if not the league premier Guard defender. id love to have him on this team.

MrDollarBills · Post #252 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:42 pm

Prokorov wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:I don't know about that, I think Marks is aware of the roster imbalance, and could look to make moves to address bigger needs. I don't think the 3rd star route is likely or realistic, but I could see us making a move for a Jrue Holiday or someone of that caliber.

But Jrue Holiday would be kind of a 3rd star, at 19/5/7 he'd be a significant upgrade over Caris LeVert.

Holiday would certainly be a 3rd star. he is better than beal and one of if not the league premier Guard defender. id love to have him on this team.

Same, he and Kyrie would blend well in the backcourt and he's a better defender than LeVert.

GTR11 · Post #253 » by **GTR11** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:33 pm

Prokorov wrote:
GTR11 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:I think we should use the pick as a trade asset if possible. we really don't have time to develop young kids anymore, next year is big boy pants time and outside of Claxton no one will have any excuses. It's time to win consistently and be in the upper echelon of the league.

I was really looking for Musa to break out but he just ain't ready. He needs few more years to develop imo. He's Bojan type of player in making from what I've seen this far. Definitely will break out at some point.
Nic got a lot of upside. I can see him taking over Allen next year.
Rodi... I don't know what Kenny and FO doing. He definitely has role on our team right now and going forward. I think it's his off court thing that keeps him on the bench. I can see him replacing Chandler next year.

Claxon is light years behind allen.

-he is a worse screener (allen is an greatone) in an offense that lives on high screen and roll and off ball screens for shooters
-he is significantly worse as a roll man (allen ranks among the leagues best as a roll man)
-he is significantly worse shotblocker and worse overall defensively
-he is smaller and weaker

there isa 0.0% chance he overtakes allen. and in genrally he is a year or two away from seeing real time as a big. maybe sooner as a wing if he cant improve his 3

You know what kills all this stuff you said... Allen soft and scary one. You just cant measure a heart.

Paradise · Post #254 » by **Paradise** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
akhan786 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
I have no issue with trading assets for Beal. I just don't want to lose Spencer Dinwiddie.

Our bench would collapse without Dinwiddie so I agree. Maybe we could do Levert + Allen for Beal?

It would have to be LeVert, Prince, Allen, and probably two lottery protected 1sts for Beal.

More like Allen, LeVert, Prince, Claxton, Musa, 2022 1st, 2024 1st unprotected or 1-3 + multiple 2nds.

Watch on YouTube

DarkXaero · Post #255 » by **DarkXaero** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:40 pm

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Thought this was interesting, how well this FO has planned out stuff. Even now, you can see with all our contracts, they've thought about what's ahead, after 3-4 years.

MrDollarBills · Post #256 » by **MrDollarBills** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:58 pm

DarkXaero wrote:

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Thought this was interesting, how well this FO has planned out stuff. Even now, you can see with all our contracts, they've thought about what's ahead, after 3-4 years.

Prince and LeVert's contracts are also very tradeable.

DarkXaero · Post #257 » by **DarkXaero** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:52 pm

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Like I've said, Marks isn't a dummy, he can assess the weaknesses of the roster, and he isn't afraid to make a bold move or two. So for anyone who thought that Marks won't touch the roster this summer, well, here's direct proof that there is good possibility.

GTR11 · Post #258 » by **GTR11** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:33 am

DarkXaero wrote:

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Like I've said, Marks isn't a dummy, he can assess the weaknesses of the roster, and he isn't afraid to make a bold move or two. So for anyone who thought that Marks won't touch the roster this summer, well, here's direct proof that there is good possibility.

Exactly and say it again. That month of late Dec entire Jan changed my view 180. I would not tolerate mediocrity whether some like it or not. Last time we really had a chance to build something special, Ratner did us dirty. We had a chance to team up J.Kidd, VC and KG :evil:

never will forget him that. Beside Kyrie, KD, Din and DJ I consider everyone trade option unless they step their game up.

GTR11 · Post #259 » by **GTR11** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:38 am

Paradise wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
akhan786 wrote:
Our bench would collapse without Dinwiddie so I agree. Maybe we could do Levert + Allen for Beal?

It would have to be LeVert, Prince, Allen, and probably two lottery protected 1sts for Beal.

More like Allen, LeVert, Prince, Claxton, Musa, 2022 1st, 2024 1st unprotected or 1-3 + multiple 2nds.

Watch on YouTube

Wow let's slow down here buddy. I'll be pissed if we give up that much. Brad is good but not that good.

Keith Van Horn · Post #260 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:30 am

I would easily take Beal or Holiday on this team. Not sure what we have to give up, but I'm thinking it'd be 3 key players + some picks.

Either one of those guys would fit in really well IMO. Maybe if Beal's asking price is too absurd, Marks leans Jrue. Who knows. I just want us to 100% resign Joe and 100% retain Spencer.