Coronavirus/COVID-19

[floyd]

From the CDC:

For confirmed coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases, reported illnesses have ranged from mild symptoms to severe illness and death. Symptoms can include:

Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath

Sounds an awful lot like the flu to me. I'm not stressing.

Per The Guardian, the mortality rate is 2% - in the "epicenter" of the outbreak in China. We are less crowded, more hygienic, and probably have better medical care.

2% is extremely high - similar to the 1918 influenza. Hopefully cases are just underreported.

[Fencer reregistered]

My wife has been taking this seriously for a while. She isn't a medical professional, but she's generally knowledgeable about health stuff (e.g., she taught anatomy/physiology on the college level), and she did once research the 1918-9 pandemic for one of her novels. Plus she reads the news from a lot of countries, in a lot of languages.

Bottom line: We can hope this won't be as bad as the pandemic of a century ago, but there's no reason to assume it won't be. Our far superior modern health care only helps so much if the numbers overwhelm the hospitals, and faster global transportation in some ways makes this worse. But one thing working in our favor is that the traditional strong effect of weather on limiting this kind of virus has not yet been disproven in this particular case.

[exculpatory]

My wife is a public health expert and a physician. She says take the same precautions you should every cold & flu season: wash your hands, try to avoid crowds, wear a mask and disinfect surfaces if you are sick or are interacting with sick people to avoid spreading diseases, get plenty of sleep, and call your doctor immediately if you have high fever or difficulty breathing. She says that COVID-19 is dangerous, but so are other respiratory diseases like the flu, and most people who are not members of a vulnerable population (elderly, immunocompromised, etc) will be ok, so take reasonable precautions but don't panic or become too preoccupied.

I endorse what she said.

I find it's usually a safe bet to endorse what she says. She's much smarter than me.

Speaking as a very experienced endocrinologist/ internist, I respect her public health expertise.
Good choice. :0)

[Slax]

My wife is a public health expert and a physician. She says take the same precautions you should every cold & flu season: wash your hands, try to avoid crowds, wear a mask and disinfect surfaces if you are sick or are interacting with sick people to avoid spreading diseases, get plenty of sleep, and call your doctor immediately if you have high fever or difficulty breathing. She says that COVID-19 is dangerous, but so are other respiratory diseases like the flu, and most people who are not members of a vulnerable population (elderly, immunocompromised, etc) will be ok, so take reasonable precautions but don't panic or become too preoccupied.

BUT WHAT ABOUT MY PORTFOLIO?

My wife is very good at what she does. I trust her to resuscitate babies in the NICU. But I don't trust her to know the difference between a mutual fund and a savings account.

[cloverleaf]

My wife has been taking this seriously for a while. She isn't a medical professional, but she's generally knowledgeable about health stuff (e.g., she taught anatomy/physiology on the college level), and she did once research the 1918-9 pandemic for one of her novels. Plus she reads the news from a lot of countries, in a lot of languages.

Bottom line: We can hope this won't be as bad as the pandemic of a century ago, but there's no reason to assume it won't be. Our far superior modern health care only helps so much if the numbers overwhelm the hospitals, and faster global transportation in some ways makes this worse. But one thing working in our favor is that the traditional strong effect of weather on limiting this kind of virus has not yet been disproven in this particular case.

You've got an interesting wife!

[Fencer reregistered]

My wife has been taking this seriously for a while. She isn't a medical professional, but she's generally knowledgeable about health stuff (e.g., she taught anatomy/physiology on the college level), and she did once research the 1918-9 pandemic for one of her novels. Plus she reads the news from a lot of countries, in a lot of languages.

Bottom line: We can hope this won't be as bad as the pandemic of a century ago, but there's no reason to assume it won't be. Our far superior modern health care only helps so much if the numbers overwhelm the hospitals, and faster global transportation in some ways makes this worse. But one thing working in our favor is that the traditional strong effect of weather on limiting this kind of virus has not yet been disproven in this particular case.

You've got an interesting wife!

Indeed!

And since this is a very small world -- I met her online in the early 1990s, when there was little precedent in figuring out who was or wasn't for real. But her first husband was in TWO different academic departments I was (almost), off by a year each time, and so she and I literally had a double digit number of acquaintances in common. Topping it off, her father had done business with some people I knew and wrote about as well, and generally shared my opinion of them.

[captain green]

I find it odd that every hundred years there is a viral outbreak. I also find it odd. That California labs already have a cure. I go to a lot of concerts and casinos and travel a lot so I've been monitoring every day and just seems like it's getting worse. Part of me thinks it's eugenics in action and part of me thinks it's a weapon and then part of me thinks it's the actual earth heating up and releasing new stuff from the perma frost.
Either way I suggest real caution especially for elderly and children. As far as my portfolio in stocks and such it's been all over the place since the 2nd bush era, so I'm not concerned in that arena as much as my travels. But having extra supplies and prevention is high. Even where I'm at people are wearing masks and not being mean but not the wisest of folks.
Wash hands, avoid exotic foods, stay safe and don't believe everything you read, but prepare for the worst even though I think this will be moot by April.

[Curmudgeon]

All the quarantines and face masks are just silly. It's like the common cold, and almost everyone will be exposed. This is the age of air travel.

Instead of trying to isolate yourself, do things to keep yourself healthy: good diet, exercise, regular flu shots and other vaccinations, etc.

[Ed Pinkney]

I find it odd that every hundred years there is a viral outbreak. I also find it odd. That California labs already have a cure. I go to a lot of concerts and casinos and travel a lot so I've been monitoring every day and just seems like it's getting worse. Part of me thinks it's eugenics in action and part of me thinks it's a weapon and then part of me thinks it's the actual earth heating up and releasing new stuff from the perma frost.
Either way I suggest real caution especially for elderly and children. As far as my portfolio in stocks and such it's been all over the place since the 2nd bush era, so I'm not concerned in that arena as much as my travels. But having extra supplies and prevention is high. Even where I'm at people are wearing masks and not being mean but not the wisest of folks.
Wash hands, avoid exotic foods, stay safe and don't believe everything you read, but prepare for the worst even though I think this will be moot by April.

I would say it is a lot more frequent than every hundred years, there has probably been more than 10 significant influenza based outbreaks in the last century, plus some other related respiratory illnesses like SARS. Antigenic shift from non-human animal based viruses is a very real problem, this is just another case it appears. We should be worried about it occuring in pox or haemorrhagic based viruses as well.

What do you mean by California labs having a "cure"?

[captain green]

I find it odd that every hundred years there is a viral outbreak. I also find it odd. That California labs already have a cure. I go to a lot of concerts and casinos and travel a lot so I've been monitoring every day and just seems like it's getting worse. Part of me thinks it's eugenics in action and part of me thinks it's a weapon and then part of me thinks it's the actual earth heating up and releasing new stuff from the perma frost.
Either way I suggest real caution especially for elderly and children. As far as my portfolio in stocks and such it's been all over the place since the 2nd bush era, so I'm not concerned in that arena as much as my travels. But having extra supplies and prevention is high. Even where I'm at people are wearing masks and not being mean but not the wisest of folks.
Wash hands, avoid exotic foods, stay safe and don't believe everything you read, but prepare for the worst even though I think this will be moot by April.

I would say it is a lot more frequent than every hundred years, there has probably been more than 10 significant influenza based outbreaks in the last century, plus some other related respiratory illnesses like SARS. Antigenic shift from non-human animal based viruses is a very real problem, this is just another case it appears. We should be worried about it occuring in pox or haemorrhagic based viruses as well.

What do you mean by California labs having a "cure"?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs8.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccine-san-diego/509-e18e37f6-347c-4b08-ad33-910968abb04f and yes even during the hundred years mark several of other cases were within and during but 1720 1820 1920 and now potentially 2020 all had big affects. Not just only every hundred years but between those years stuff still happened. Just seems funny that major stuff fits that timeline

[Saint Lazarus]

I haven't been able to go to school for nearly 2 months so there's that

[Fencer reregistered]

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[SichtingLives]

Meh. They say stuff a lime in there but I know a skunk ass beer when I taste one, you ain't fooling me with no citrus injection

[GWVan]

I just booked a cruise for next week because they are really really cheap right now.
Not worried about the coronavirus as of yet.
Human brains do not do statistics well and it causes them to really botch up risk anaylsis.
RIght here, right now, the flu is a bigger threat to your life.
And it's probably not even in the top 10 things you should be worried about.

[strokerace]

I find it odd that every hundred years there is a viral outbreak. I also find it odd. That California labs already have a cure. I go to a lot of concerts and casinos and travel a lot so I've been monitoring every day and just seems like it's getting worse. Part of me thinks it's eugenics in action and part of me thinks it's a weapon and then part of me thinks it's the actual earth heating up and releasing new stuff from the perma frost.
Either way I suggest real caution especially for elderly and children. As far as my portfolio in stocks and such it's been all over the place since the 2nd bush era, so I'm not concerned in that arena as much as my travels. But having extra supplies and prevention is high. Even where I'm at people are wearing masks and not being mean but not the wisest of folks.
Wash hands, avoid exotic foods, stay safe and don't believe everything you read, but prepare for the worst even though I think this will be moot by April.

I would say it is a lot more frequent than every hundred years, there has probably been more than 10 significant influenza based outbreaks in the last century, plus some other related respiratory illnesses like SARS. Antigenic shift from non-human animal based viruses is a very real problem, this is just another case it appears. We should be worried about it occuring in pox or haemorrhagic based viruses as well.

What do you mean by California labs having a "cure"?

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[djFan71]

I find it odd that every hundred years there is a viral outbreak. I also find it odd. That California labs already have a cure. I go to a lot of concerts and casinos and travel a lot so I've been monitoring every day and just seems like it's getting worse. Part of me thinks it's eugenics in action and part of me thinks it's a weapon and then part of me thinks it's the actual earth heating up and releasing new stuff from the perma frost.
Either way I suggest real caution especially for elderly and children. As far as my portfolio in stocks and such it's been all over the place since the 2nd bush era, so I'm not concerned in that arena as much as my travels. But having extra supplies and prevention is high. Even where I'm at people are wearing masks and not being mean but not the wisest of folks.
Wash hands, avoid exotic foods, stay safe and don't believe everything you read, but prepare for the worst even though I think this will be moot by April.

I would say it is a lot more frequent than every hundred years, there has probably been more than 10 significant influenza based outbreaks in the last century, plus some other related respiratory illnesses like SARS. Antigenic shift from non-human animal based viruses is a very real problem, this is just another case it appears. We should be worried about it occuring in pox or haemorrhagic based viruses as well.

What do you mean by California labs having a "cure"?

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C'mon man.

[captain green]

I would say it is a lot more frequent than every hundred years, there has probably been more than 10 significant influenza based outbreaks in the last century, plus some other related respiratory illnesses like SARS. Antigenic shift from non-human animal based viruses is a very real problem, this is just another case it appears. We should be worried about it occuring in pox or haemorrhagic based viruses as well.

What do you mean by California labs having a "cure"?

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C'mon man.

What was removed? Stroker ace is a "ween" song one of my favorite bands.

[jfs1000d]

Meh, the markets were on a bubble anyway and this virus is just a pin that burst the balloon. It would have popped anyway. As for the virus, it appears that 99% of the people who contract it survive, so most of us will live through it.

Not quite, more like 97.5%

If I told you you had a 2.5% chance at hitting a million dollars you would be like YES!

Flu is less than 1% for death rate.


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[jfs1000d]

Yes, my advisor has likewise taken steps to mitigate the losses. The problem is that the profit taking from selling securities and concerting them into cash as a hedge against the falling markets will generate a large tax bill in April of 2021.

Go into safe assets. Converting to cash is a loser because inflation will rise when the fed starts to panic and cut interest rates again in response to trump bellowing about the markets.


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[Bleeding Green]

Just hedge with /ES puts.