Tom Thibodeau To The Knicks 90% Likely!

eagle54 · Post #141 » by **eagle54** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:08 pm

90% likely like KD and Kyrie last year ?

bearadonisdna · Post #142 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:59 pm

His defensive tendencies would be nice for Ny and his ability to consistently put together competitive teams would be needed here.

It does seem he has a tendency to overuse players but its a great change from fitz revolving doors.
Thibs has his flaws.
1.Striking out often in the draft.
2. Main players getting knee injuries.
3. Going with short rotations.

Imo thibs coaches like if he were always coaching the knicks. Mike miller is a step up from Fiz. Somebodies mom here is probably a step up from fiz.
Thibs is an 'ok' candidate.

HarthorneWingo · Post #143 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:29 pm

RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

You should make this a poll. I think it’d be interesting to see where we stand in him.

Post #144 » by **NoLayupRule** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:32 pm

Ive always like TT but honestly is his brand of basketball relevant right now, is his brand of tough coaching reasonable for this young core, is his disregard for load management realistic in this new league?

just because he's had success doesn't mean he's the right fit

Min arguably had a much better young core than us and he failed terribly there with all the control and none of the media scrutiny

Besart19 · Post #145 » by **Besart19** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:50 pm

Jay Wright or Ettore Messina

RHODEY · Post #146 » by **RHODEY** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:36 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

You should make this a poll. I think it’d be interesting to see where we stand in him.

done!

HarthorneWingo · Post #147 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:18 am

Skeptical, but what can you do?

N Y K · Post #148 » by **N Y K** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:19 am

I can’t wait for everyone to turn on him

HarthorneWingo · Post #149 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:31 am

N Y K wrote:I can’t wait for everyone to turn on him

Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

Traveyknicks23 · Post #150 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:50 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
N Y K wrote:I can’t wait for everyone to turn on him

Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

But why?

HarthorneWingo · Post #151 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:54 am

Traveyknicks23 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
N Y K wrote:I can’t wait for everyone to turn on him

Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

But why?

Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

Traveyknicks23 · Post #152 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:59 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

But why?

Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

Somebody already posted this earlier but tell me what’s not factual about this article based on this article seems like he can develop players and he has but I do like to hear the opposite side of the spectrum as well https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2020/2/13/21135479/tom-thibodeau-hungry-start-winning-again-bulls-timberwolves-nba-all-star-weekend

Clyde_Style · Post #153 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:14 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

But why?

Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

The right guy is not just the right coach, but the right FO + coach. If they work well together and are on the same page while granting the coach their autonomy, then you have a shot at create continuity.

Continuity will have to become a priority if this franchise wants to become legit again.

I have no problem with Thibs if he is the choice as long as Rose and co. have a damn clue as well. Thibs is not going to be the problem if our FO is finally competent and they staff properly for things like scouting, analytics, development, etc.

It comes back to Dolan again, not Thibs. He's a real coach, better than anyone we've had this century IMO.

thebuzzardman · Post #154 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:15 am

If Thibs is hungry to start winning again, why is he interested in the Knicks?

RHODEY · Post #155 » by **RHODEY** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:16 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Well, he's asking for it. Supposedly, his "dream job."

I can't wait to see it crushed.

But why?

Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

But perhaps he can evolve...gotta hope he has a positive impact on Mitch and RJ. Anything more than that is just icing on the cake in my book.

HarthorneWingo · Post #156 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:20 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
But why?

Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

The right guy is not just the right coach, but the right FO + coach. If they work well together and are on the same page while granting the coach their autonomy, then you have a shot at create continuity.

Continuity will have to become a priority if this franchise wants to become legit again.

I have no problem with Thibs if he is the choice as long as Rose and co. have a damn clue as well. Thibs is not going to be the problem if our FO is finally competent and they staff properly for things like scouting, analytics, development, etc.

It comes back to Dolan again, not Thibs. He's a real coach, better than anyone we've had this century IMO.

Do we really know that? Thibs just came from a job where he had total control. Now he's going to let a neophyte like Leon run things? I can see where this could go south.

Clyde_Style · Post #157 » by **Clyde_Style** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:22 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

The right guy is not just the right coach, but the right FO + coach. If they work well together and are on the same page while granting the coach their autonomy, then you have a shot at create continuity.

Continuity will have to become a priority if this franchise wants to become legit again.

I have no problem with Thibs if he is the choice as long as Rose and co. have a damn clue as well. Thibs is not going to be the problem if our FO is finally competent and they staff properly for things like scouting, analytics, development, etc.

It comes back to Dolan again, not Thibs. He's a real coach, better than anyone we've had this century IMO.

Do we really know that? Thibs just came from a job where he had total control. Now he's going to let a neophyte like Leon run things? I can see where this could go south.

I'd guess he would be happy just coaching now. There are very few guys in the history of the game who have had total control while coaching. And most have been overwhelmed by that amount of responsibility. He's a coach still and his experiences probably cemented his desire to focus on that now.

thebuzzardman · Post #158 » by **thebuzzardman** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Because he's not the right guy for this situation. He's not a developmental coach. He's the guy you bring in when you're ready to go to the ECF.

You want to pay Thibs 4 or years/$20-25 million? And then watch it go down the toilet after unreasonable expectations lead to desperate transactions which leads to more failure.

The right guy is not just the right coach, but the right FO + coach. If they work well together and are on the same page while granting the coach their autonomy, then you have a shot at create continuity.

Continuity will have to become a priority if this franchise wants to become legit again.

I have no problem with Thibs if he is the choice as long as Rose and co. have a damn clue as well. Thibs is not going to be the problem if our FO is finally competent and they staff properly for things like scouting, analytics, development, etc.

It comes back to Dolan again, not Thibs. He's a real coach, better than anyone we've had this century IMO.

Do we really know that? Thibs just came from a job where he had total control. Now he's going to let a neophyte like Leon run things? I can see where this could go south.

Leon Rose is supposed to be looking to hire a GM. We can assume that GM won't be a neophyte.

I'm skeptical of the entire situation. Who Rose hires as coach and GM, particularly GM, will make me start to have an opinion one way or the other. Then it's what he does with the rest of the coaching staff/scouting/developmental staff - if anything.

But GM is the really important hire. And then, kind of, the coach.

jermsknicks · Post #159 » by **jermsknicks** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:51 am

This as just a coach, I do like. Wish he made his way over a few years ago, but this time he won't have a Jimmy Butler to help spread his message. Plus the kids are different these days, so there is that too.

oldshoolballer · Post #160 » by **oldshoolballer** » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:06 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I still love this guy. Screw the modern NBA.

The man gets results 352-246 589 win%.Among current coaches that's a top 5 coach.Very defensive minded coach he's been known to bench players for poor defense,I don't think Randle and Knox will survive under him.His offenses actually weren't that bad and Rose and Butler developed under him.I guess if he had this roster they would be in the 8th spot.