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Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120

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Sweater Vest No. 26

Poll ended at Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:01 am

Gordon: 25 PTS, 10 REB, 6 AST, 3 BLK, 9-14 FG, 3-4 3PT
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Bamba: 15 PTS, 10 REB, 4 BLK, 3-4 3PT in just 17 minutes
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Fournier: 28 PTS, 4 REB, 5 AST, 3 STL, 11-18 FG, TEAM BEST +13
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22%
Vucevic: 17 PTS, 12 REB, 3 AST, 8-15 FG
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Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#1 » by Knightro » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:01 am



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2019-2020 Vests
Gordon: 6 (v. Sixers, v. Suns, v. Sixers, at Kings, v. Pistons, at Nets)
Fournier: 5 (v. Spurs, at Cavs, v. Warriors, at Wizards, at Hornets)
Fultz: 4 (v. Cavs, v. Nets, at Lakers, at Hornets)
Vucevic: 4 (v. Grizzlies, v. Wizards, v. Wizards, v. Hawks)
Ross: 3 (at Cavs, v. Bulls, v. Heat)
Isaac: 2 (v. Knicks, at Pelicans)
Augustin: 1 (at Wizards)

Cummerbunds
Vucevic: 7 (v. Cavs, v. Knicks, v. Sixers, at Pelicans, v. Heat, v. Nets, at Hornets)
Fultz: 5 (v. Wizards, v. Warriors, at Wizards, v. Wizards, v. Pistons)
Fournier: 5 (v. Suns, at Cavs, v. Sixers, at Kings, at Hornets)
Gordon: 2 (at Lakers, v. Hawks)
Isaac: 2 (v. Grizzlies, v. Bulls)
Ross: 2 (v. Spurs, at Nets)
Bamba: 1 (at Cavs)
Augustin: 1 (at Wizards)

Mittens
Gordon: 5 (v. Knicks, v. Bulls, v. Heat, v. Nets, at Hornets)
Vucevic: 4 (v. Sixers, at Wizards, at Kings, v. Pistons)
Fournier: 4 (v. Cavs, v. Grizzlies, v. Wizards, at Nets)
Fultz: 3 (at Cavs, at Wizards, v. Hawks)
Augustin: 2 (v. Sixers, at Pelicans)
Aminu: 1 (v. Spurs)
Isaac: 1 (v. Warriors)
Bamba: 1 (v. Suns)
Carter-Williams: 1 (at Cavs)
Birch: 1 (v. Wizards)
Iwundu: 1 (at Lakers)
Ross: 1 (at Hornets)
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#2 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:02 am

AG.

But Fournier and Bamba were both unreal tonight.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#3 » by orlando_joe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:04 am

ag...at both ends of the floor
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#4 » by Ducklett » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:06 am

Bamba's stat line for 17 minutes played IS INSANE.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#5 » by Magic_Is_Here » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:15 am

I voted for Bamba because he deserves the Cummerbunds for this game. His play in the second was impressive.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#6 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:32 am

Has to be AG.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#7 » by Bensational » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:44 am

Mr February

Team is 5-5 in Feb.

In 5 Wins:

23.8ppg, 10rpg, 5.6apg, 1.4tov, 1spg, 1.4bpg

shooting 57%fg on 15.4fgas. 65% 3fg% (LOL!) on 4fgas.

Congrats young man, it's good to see you finally firing.

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#8 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:53 am

Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#9 » by Ducklett » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:21 am

pepe1991 wrote:Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

Next year allstar- year five.


Seriously, what did AG and Bamba do to you? Lol. I think there is an argument for Evan and AG to have won it. I voted Bamba because he might not even be a "G-League talent" and this might be the best performance we ever see of his. Why would you come in here on **** on people being happy that AG is starting to heat up? This board just blows my damn mind sometimes.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#10 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:41 am

Ducklett wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

Next year allstar- year five.


Seriously, what did AG and Bamba do to you? Lol. I think there is an argument for Evan and AG to have won it. I voted Bamba because he might not even be a "G-League talent" and this might be the best performance we ever see of his. Why would you come in here on **** on people being happy that AG is starting to heat up? This board just blows my damn mind sometimes.


Because it was Evan who won a game. Literally Hawks commentary team whole 3rd and 4th quater were pointing out how they have to find a ways to slow him down. And Hawks didn't. Every key moment in that game it was Evan who delivered. Especially in 4th quater.

I didn't even mention Bamba in my comment for same reasons why i didn't mention Vuc. They dominated because Hawks have no active center on a roster. Expected outcom.

Gordon bias goes for ages. Every year he is breaking out or it's somebody else fault why he is not breaking out. It's never him. Poor guy. If it's not for mean teammates he would have been MVP by now. Where is my green font?!
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#11 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:59 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

Next year allstar- year five.


Seriously, what did AG and Bamba do to you? Lol. I think there is an argument for Evan and AG to have won it. I voted Bamba because he might not even be a "G-League talent" and this might be the best performance we ever see of his. Why would you come in here on **** on people being happy that AG is starting to heat up? This board just blows my damn mind sometimes.


Because it was Evan who won a game. Literally Hawks commentary team whole 3rd and 4th quater were pointing out how they have to find a ways to slow him down. And Hawks didn't. Every key moment in that game it was Evan who delivered. Especially in 4th quater.

I didn't even mention Bamba in my comment for same reasons why i didn't mention Vuc. They dominated because Hawks have no active center on a roster. Expected outcom.

Gordon bias goes for ages. Every year he is breaking out or it's somebody else fault why he is not breaking out. It's never him. Poor guy. If it's not for mean teammates he would have been MVP by now. Where is my green font?!

Nope. You don't get to complain or cry about this, remember? It's not important and you're complaining? Hmm. Seems like someone should've let us talk about the dunk contest then. . .
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#12 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:06 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
Seriously, what did AG and Bamba do to you? Lol. I think there is an argument for Evan and AG to have won it. I voted Bamba because he might not even be a "G-League talent" and this might be the best performance we ever see of his. Why would you come in here on **** on people being happy that AG is starting to heat up? This board just blows my damn mind sometimes.


Because it was Evan who won a game. Literally Hawks commentary team whole 3rd and 4th quater were pointing out how they have to find a ways to slow him down. And Hawks didn't. Every key moment in that game it was Evan who delivered. Especially in 4th quater.

I didn't even mention Bamba in my comment for same reasons why i didn't mention Vuc. They dominated because Hawks have no active center on a roster. Expected outcom.

Gordon bias goes for ages. Every year he is breaking out or it's somebody else fault why he is not breaking out. It's never him. Poor guy. If it's not for mean teammates he would have been MVP by now. Where is my green font?!

Nope. You don't get to complain or cry about this, remember? It's not important and you're complaining? Hmm. Seems like someone should've let us talk about the dunk contest then. . .


Not a single talkikng topic is important.
Nothing we say, think or write will have any impact on a team or any of decisions they make.

But crying about dunk contest is another level of pointless crying.

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Evan has been best Magic player whole season and tonight was no different. People vote based on who they like. I don't care really. I just find it funny and pointed out clear bias that exists for years. Not my problem tho.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#13 » by TheGlyde » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:21 am

pepe1991 wrote:Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

Next year allstar- year five.


I will preface my reply with a couple of things;
1. I don’t believe either Evan or Aaron will be an All Star
2. I think Evan suffers from ‘consistency bias’, hes steady most nights, Mo and Aaron not as much (Though Aaron has had a very good Feb).
3. The team is not nearly as bad as everyone here thinks and the hate for the team is astounding when theres at least a dozen teams clearly worse in the league and the Magic have played the toughest part of their schedule.

Having said that, I do think when Aaron plays well he is the X factor between this team being above or below average.

The Magic are 5-0 when he scores 25+, and Gordon averages over 4ppg more in team wins vs team losses.

That difference is a lot less for Evan and Vuc, they are steady generally night to night, but we need a good third man and when Aaron is that, the team isnt a total trash pile.

The question here is;
Is he not a consistent 3rd contributor because hes just not good, or because he isnt utilised effectively for his skillset... and that where the battling factions on the board come to blows.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#14 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:24 am

pepe1991 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Because it was Evan who won a game. Literally Hawks commentary team whole 3rd and 4th quater were pointing out how they have to find a ways to slow him down. And Hawks didn't. Every key moment in that game it was Evan who delivered. Especially in 4th quater.

I didn't even mention Bamba in my comment for same reasons why i didn't mention Vuc. They dominated because Hawks have no active center on a roster. Expected outcom.

Gordon bias goes for ages. Every year he is breaking out or it's somebody else fault why he is not breaking out. It's never him. Poor guy. If it's not for mean teammates he would have been MVP by now. Where is my green font?!

Nope. You don't get to complain or cry about this, remember? It's not important and you're complaining? Hmm. Seems like someone should've let us talk about the dunk contest then. . .


Not a single talkikng topic is important.
Nothing we say, think or write will have any impact on a team or any of decisions they make.

But crying about dunk contest is another level of pointless crying.

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Opposing player crying after his defender made a three, what a hero, it really matters and he took is hard !

:lol:

Evan has been best Magic player whole season and tonight was no different. People vote based on who they like. I don't care really. I just find it funny and pointed out clear bias that exists for years. Not my problem tho.

You clearly care A LOT. You complain every time you disagree with the votes. You're a hypocrite when it comes to this. It's not a pro-AG bias either. It's your anti-AG bias that's the problem here. Which is also why you did what you did on the Dunk Contest thread.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#15 » by drsd » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:26 am

pepe1991 wrote:Easy vote for Evan.
2 and-ones that killed the game, big three before it to keep distance.

In third two huge full court and half court passes in transition to swing Hawks lead into Magic lead.

Ofc he won't win it because Gordon unhealthy bias is 6 years strong and counting.

Next year allstar- year five.


I also had Fournier in this.

In addition to being Mr. smooth on offesne, he completely shut-down Huerter. He was forced to "lead" the hawks in a -10 on plus/minus. Indeed the difference between Fournier and Huerter score-line was the difference in winning and losing this game!


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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#16 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:32 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:Nope. You don't get to complain or cry about this, remember? It's not important and you're complaining? Hmm. Seems like someone should've let us talk about the dunk contest then. . .


Not a single talkikng topic is important.
Nothing we say, think or write will have any impact on a team or any of decisions they make.

But crying about dunk contest is another level of pointless crying.

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Opposing player crying after his defender made a three, what a hero, it really matters and he took is hard !

:lol:

Evan has been best Magic player whole season and tonight was no different. People vote based on who they like. I don't care really. I just find it funny and pointed out clear bias that exists for years. Not my problem tho.

You clearly care A LOT. You complain every time you disagree with the votes. You're a hypocrite when it comes to this. It's not a pro-AG bias either. It's your anti-AG bias that's the problem here. Which is also why you did what you did on the Dunk Contest thread.


How dare i say 50% TS, 42,9% FG, 31% for 3 - 67% FTs, second highest payed player, third in usage , is playing bad, as he is having worst season of his career? :roll:

I did what? Said that it's meaningless competition that most people acting outraged then- didn't know who won year before ? So it's only relevant competition when you watch one of your own? No really, how many of you know who won dunk contest in 2019,2018,2017 ? I know that i don't because i don't care. But you "care soooooooooo much " so tell me without googe-ing it- who won in years prior?

It's obvious how this talks go.
Every time Gordon or Bamba or Fultz have graet game ,everybody is up in arms about them being amazing, allstars and what not.
Every time Vuc , Evan have good game whole forum is downtalking it.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#17 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:37 am

pepe1991 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Not a single talkikng topic is important.
Nothing we say, think or write will have any impact on a team or any of decisions they make.

But crying about dunk contest is another level of pointless crying.

Exclusive footage of how much anything on allstar weekend matters

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Opposing player crying after his defender made a three, what a hero, it really matters and he took is hard !

:lol:

Evan has been best Magic player whole season and tonight was no different. People vote based on who they like. I don't care really. I just find it funny and pointed out clear bias that exists for years. Not my problem tho.

You clearly care A LOT. You complain every time you disagree with the votes. You're a hypocrite when it comes to this. It's not a pro-AG bias either. It's your anti-AG bias that's the problem here. Which is also why you did what you did on the Dunk Contest thread.


How dare i say 50% TS, 42,9% FG, 31% for 3 - 67% FTs, second highest payed player, third in usage , is playing bad, as he is having worst season of his career? :roll:

I did what? Said that it's meaningless competition that most people acting outraged then- didn't know who won year before ? So it's only relevant competition when you watch one of your own? No really, how many of you know who won dunk contest in 2019,2018,2017 ? I know that i don't because i don't care. But you "care soooooooooo much " so tell me without googe-ing it- who won in years prior?

Who cares who won before? That's so irrelevant to this conversation and you completely and intentionally miss the point so you can keep arguing without judgement. No one cares about those years because the dunk contest sucked. People still remember that AG was robbed TWICE and this time it was blatant cheating. Also, Magic fans care about certain things a little more when one of our own is there. What a concept!

Regardless, I'm not arguing about the dunk contest anymore. My point is that you sat there and judged everyone thinking we were stupid for defending our guy against cheating and said "it was irrelevant" while sitting here crying that Evan didn't get a freaking vest on an online forum were only a couple hundred Magic fans come to talk. Talk about irrelevant. What happened to AG was in front of MILLIONS and celebrities and NBA players. Much more relevant.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#18 » by j-ragg » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:39 am

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Evan
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Gordon and Bamba’s rim protection was huge. Bamba’s best game of the year, maybe career.
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Post#19 » by zaymon » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:23 am

I went with Fournier, although Gordon was also very good. Evan made tougher baskets, with defense really going after him. Gordon is hot from 3, but teams dont pay much attention to him (yet). Fournier also shut down Huerter, and was the only disciplined defender against Young. I agree that Gordon is x- factor, becouse he is sh*t most of the nights, while Fournier is consistently good. When you have a good night from Aaron you know your second worst starter contributed which is huge. Last few games Gordon really improved his played, lets hope Bamba will be the new x factor. Its a little embarassing for Gordon.
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Re: Sweater Vest Thread #26: Magic 130 - Hawks 120 

Post#20 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:35 am

You can cry (I see why you guys use this word so much... feels good lol) all you want pepe, but majority that watched the game believed that AG deserved it. Sorry.
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