The Washington Redskins Thread

[Ruzious]

I think the Redskins can't miss if they pick Young. Re-sign or retain bought in Trent Williams. THE GUY I MIGHT DRAFT INSTEAD OF YOUNG ... is that beast OFFENSIVE LINEMAN... can't recall the team but I'm thinking he's a sure fire future HOF player.

There's a bunch of OT's rated 1st rounders in this draft - probably more than I've ever noticed. That's one reason I think they should consider a trade down - since that 2nd pick can get them a TON in return - including a LT for the next decade who might actually like playing.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I think the Redskins can't miss if they pick Young. Re-sign or retain bought in Trent Williams. THE GUY I MIGHT DRAFT INSTEAD OF YOUNG ... is that beast OFFENSIVE LINEMAN... can't recall the team but I'm thinking he's a sure fire future HOF player.

There's a bunch of OT's rated 1st rounders in this draft - probably more than I've ever noticed. That's one reason I think they should consider a trade down - since that 2nd pick can get them a TON in return - including a LT for the next decade who might actually like playing.

Yessir!

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I think the Redskins can't miss if they pick Young. Re-sign or retain bought in Trent Williams. THE GUY I MIGHT DRAFT INSTEAD OF YOUNG ... is that beast OFFENSIVE LINEMAN... can't recall the team but I'm thinking he's a sure fire future HOF player.

There's a bunch of OT's rated 1st rounders in this draft - probably more than I've ever noticed. That's one reason I think they should consider a trade down - since that 2nd pick can get them a TON in return - including a LT for the next decade who might actually like playing.

I don't think anyone sees any of these LT prospects as being elite in the NFL. Everyone is so high Becton but the dude is 370 and just recently started zooming up draft boards - I am wary of guys like this

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[Ruzious]

I think the Redskins can't miss if they pick Young. Re-sign or retain bought in Trent Williams. THE GUY I MIGHT DRAFT INSTEAD OF YOUNG ... is that beast OFFENSIVE LINEMAN... can't recall the team but I'm thinking he's a sure fire future HOF player.

There's a bunch of OT's rated 1st rounders in this draft - probably more than I've ever noticed. That's one reason I think they should consider a trade down - since that 2nd pick can get them a TON in return - including a LT for the next decade who might actually like playing.

I don't think anyone sees any of these LT prospects as being elite in the NFL. Everyone is so high Becton but the dude is 370 and just recently started zooming up draft boards - I am wary of guys like this

That's the exact opposite of what I've read and heard the last couple of months - and I wasn't even including Becton in the players I'm talking about. I just heard an analyst yesterday - who knew his stuff - saying the OT group is very top-heavy and full of excellent 1st round prospects - I think he had 2 in the top 10 and 6 in the 1st round. And that goes with what I've been reading from all the mocks the last couple of months. This is the draft to get an elite LT prospect.

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Saying nothing of Haskins but you can be diligent and studious and not be a quick pick-up on concepts. A hard worker and a grinder can get straight A's from study and papers where a quicker study tries to float by on raw talent alone and high test scores without drills and repetition in study.

The thing I did note about Haskins highlights from college was that his line gave him YEARS of time to get a play off. Yes he was accurate on his touch, yes he had power, but some of those long routes took forever to develop and he would stare down his receivers waiting for them to get open. He made completions not by being shifty and tricksy and making something out of nothing, he had a maginot line protection in front of him. If this team wants the guy they saw in college they need to invest in the big boys up front and get a deep deep group of stolid stalwart monsters with their knuckles in the grass at the line of scrimmage.

A grinder needs consistency and time and repetition, so if Rivera can build a team and coaches of core guys that will help over the long term. No doubt Haskins can improve, and did towards the end of the year. A studious leader wins with year after year of effort.

[Dark Faze]

The QB is the rarer commodity to obtain. You can snatch defensive edge rushers from free agency if that's how you want to allocate your dollars. What you can't do is get an elite QB in free agency.

If you think Tua is Wilson/Brees good then you should take him unless you think he'll be RG3 levels of injury prone. You can trade Haskins and maybe get a third or something later. It doesn't matter. I think Haskins ceiling is somewhere around that Ryan Tannehill level. A guy who if everything goes right and you have an elite defense, maybe just maybe you get to a superbowl with him.

Teams that win with middling QB + elite defense always have incredibly short windows to make something happen because too many things have to be perfect with that method. It's hard to retain an elite defensive unit from a financial perspective, and on top of that you almost always have to have a good running back as well to eat up clock and protect your QB from himself. It's simply too difficult to maintain a roster like that at a high level over the course of many years.

[Ruzious]

The QB is the rarer commodity to obtain. You can snatch defensive edge rushers from free agency if that's how you want to allocate your dollars. What you can't do is get an elite QB in free agency.

If you think Tua is Wilson/Brees good then you should take him unless you think he'll be RG3 levels of injury prone. You can trade Haskins and maybe get a third or something later. It doesn't matter. I think Haskins ceiling is somewhere around that Ryan Tannehill level. A guy who if everything goes right and you have an elite defense, maybe just maybe you get to a superbowl with him.

Teams that win with middling QB + elite defense always have incredibly short windows to make something happen because too many things have to be perfect with that method. It's hard to retain an elite defensive unit from a financial perspective, and on top of that you almost always have to have a good running back as well to eat up clock and protect your QB from himself. It's simply too difficult to maintain a roster like that at a high level over the course of many years.

The fact that the Skins picked him with their 1st rounder last year, and most folks were impressed with how he played down the stretch - indicates the Skins are VERY high on Haskins, and they're committed to growing with him. If they're wrong, they'll pick high again next year, and there are at least a couple of great QB prospects coming up next year. I can't imagine them just giving up on Haskins at this point - especially for just a 3rd rounder.

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qb's aren't as rare as they used to be. there are more serviceable qb's who can take you to the playoffs than ever before.

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I loved Trent W, but it’s time to move on. I’d be happy with any of these OT if we traded back:

1. Jedrick Wills, Alabama (JR, 6'5", 320 pounds)
2. Andrew Thomas, Georgia (JR, 6'5, 320 pounds)
3. Mekhi Becton, Louisville (JR, 6'7", 369 pounds)
4. Tristan Wirfs, Iowa (JR, 6'5", 322 pounds)
5. Josh Jones, Houston (SR, 6'5", 311 pounds)

Especially Wirfs or Becton.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Not sure of the trade back scenarios.

Maybe draft Tua and leverage that for Miami’s 3 picks.

Of course, the Fins could then just draft Herbert.

I like Chase Young a lot... but, if Trent is really done as a Slur, then I think you have to think about trade back possibilities.

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I loved Trent W, but it’s time to move on. I’d be happy with any of these OT if we traded back:

1. Jedrick Wills, Alabama (JR, 6'5", 320 pounds)
2. Andrew Thomas, Georgia (JR, 6'5, 320 pounds)
3. Mekhi Becton, Louisville (JR, 6'7", 369 pounds)
4. Tristan Wirfs, Iowa (JR, 6'5", 322 pounds)
5. Josh Jones, Houston (SR, 6'5", 311 pounds)

Especially Wirfs or Becton.

Everyone's going nuts about Becton's combine, but Wirfs was even more impressive, imo. He had a 36.5" vertical, ran a 4.85 40, and had the best broad jump of all the OT's - by 5 inches. If he has decent hands, I wonder if his team uses him occasionally as a 320 lb TE. His 40 time was faster than 3 of the TE's at the combine. His vertical was higher than Jerry Jeudy and CeeDee Lamb. Andrew Thomas is also a freak athlete. But Wills might get picked before all of them.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Are you fat shaming or is it the johnny-come-lately thing that you don't like?

I had not heard of Giannis antetokounmpo until right before the draft in the NBA. He physically grew and got a lot better at the same time after he became a known entity

Becton. Hmmm...

"I feel like I'm the most dominant tackle in this draft. You wouldn't go wrong picking me," Becton said. "The tape shows it. The tape shows that I finish almost every single play."

NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah is bullish on Becton, ranking him the fifth-best player in the draft in his most recent top-50 list. Jeremiah has two other offensive linemen -- Alabama's Jedrick Wills and Iowa's Tristan Wirfs -- in his top 13, but he compares Becton to former Minnesota Vikings tackle Bryant McKinnie, who played 12 seasons, made a Pro Bowl and was remarkably durable in starting 140 of 144 regular-season games over a nine-year stretch from 2003-2011.

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001103443/article/mekhi-becton-im-the-most-dominant-ot-in-the-2020-nfl-draft?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Ddraft-2020%3Bteam%3Dmin%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bdvsn%3Dncn&p.ct=Draft%202020&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23000&p.bgc1m=%23EAEAEA&sr=amp


I operate at a mostly intuitive level. I really think this is the year the Skins should come out of this draft with a monster offensive lineman.

Draft this guy.

I think the Redskins can't miss if they pick Young. Re-sign or retain bought in Trent Williams. THE GUY I MIGHT DRAFT INSTEAD OF YOUNG ... is that beast OFFENSIVE LINEMAN... can't recall the team but I'm thinking he's a sure fire future HOF player.

There's a bunch of OT's rated 1st rounders in this draft - probably more than I've ever noticed. That's one reason I think they should consider a trade down - since that 2nd pick can get them a TON in return - including a LT for the next decade who might actually like playing.

I don't think anyone sees any of these LT prospects as being elite in the NFL. Everyone is so high Becton but the dude is 370 and just recently started zooming up draft boards - I am wary of guys like this

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

What the Redskins should do is draft the offensive lineman named Becton after trading down the rights to Chase Young or Tua.

Get becton + future considerations

Instead of bringing in a quarterback early in the draft just draft Cole McDonald later on in like the 5th round.

If they do this they will do very well.

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I guess the skins or Snyder are/is hoping to see more of this in burgundy & gold...

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If they're not going to trade the pick, why try to fool people that they're interested in Tua? I'm sure they like Tua - but there's no way they're going to pick him at 2.