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Post#301 » by TroyD92 » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:45 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think he's got a great foundation. All around skillset, good length/athleticism, good instincts defensively, quick/active hands, consistent effort level/engagement. He's wiry strong and doesn't back down to bigger players. I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.


I keep seeing people say he's a low ceiling guy, but I'm not even sure if thats the case. Seems to have a budding offensive game to go along with the things you mentioned.
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Post#302 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:24 pm

Tankathon mock has us picking Maledon at #18. Not really sure what to make of him as a prospect. Seems like the resident "yeah he doesn't really do anything great but he's bigger and super young!" guy in the draft.
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Post#303 » by The Wet Whistle » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:15 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think he's got a great foundation. All around skillset, good length/athleticism, good instincts defensively, quick/active hands, consistent effort level/engagement. He's wiry strong and doesn't back down to bigger players. I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.
How would compare Vassell, Saddiq Bey, & Nesmith? Any similarities between them?
I've only seen Bey from among them but reading about Vassell and Nesmith I'm very interested in them too

Roles on offense/defense?

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Re: Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread 

Post#304 » by emunney » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:29 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think he's got a great foundation. All around skillset, good length/athleticism, good instincts defensively, quick/active hands, consistent effort level/engagement. He's wiry strong and doesn't back down to bigger players. I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.
How would compare Vassell, Saddiq Bey, & Nesmith? Any similarities between them?
I've only seen Bey from among them but reading about Vassell and Nesmith I'm very interested in them too

Roles on offense/defense?

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I can't really comment too much on Nesmith. I know he shot lights out this year before he got hurt. Just in terms of his shooting mechanics, I think he's got a noisy lower body for a guy who hit so many shots this year, but I don't think that's a bad thing for him as a prospect. Cleaning that up would only make him more accurate. I think he's got to speed up his release.

Vassell and Bey have some very broad things in common: shooting, good positional size (unless you think Bey's a PF), well-rounded games. Bey's bigger and has a higher overall skill level; Vassell's a better athlete. Defensively I think they're both very active and aware defenders. Nova plays a pretty risk averse defensive style in my opinion, but even considering that, I think Vassell's hands, quickness, and verticality make him a consistent playmaker on that end where Bey is more just solid.
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Post#305 » by LuessiT » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Tankathon mock has us picking Maledon at #18. Not really sure what to make of him as a prospect. Seems like the resident "yeah he doesn't really do anything great but he's bigger and super young!" guy in the draft.


He doesn't really do anything at an NBA level yet but he doesn't really have any weaknesses offensively. Basically some clay ready to be shaped.
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Post#306 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:24 pm

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I think he's got a great foundation. All around skillset, good length/athleticism, good instincts defensively, quick/active hands, consistent effort level/engagement. He's wiry strong and doesn't back down to bigger players. I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.
How would compare Vassell, Saddiq Bey, & Nesmith? Any similarities between them?
I've only seen Bey from among them but reading about Vassell and Nesmith I'm very interested in them too

Roles on offense/defense?

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I can't really comment too much on Nesmith. I know he shot lights out this year before he got hurt. Just in terms of his shooting mechanics, I think he's got a noisy lower body for a guy who hit so many shots this year, but I don't think that's a bad thing for him as a prospect. Cleaning that up would only make him more accurate. I think he's got to speed up his release.

Vassell and Bey have some very broad things in common: shooting, good positional size (unless you think Bey's a PF), well-rounded games. Bey's bigger and has a higher overall skill level; Vassell's a better athlete. Defensively I think they're both very active and aware defenders. Nova plays a pretty risk averse defensive style in my opinion, but even considering that, I think Vassell's hands, quickness, and verticality make him a consistent playmaker on that end where Bey is more just solid.

I'm starting to like Saddiq Bey better than Tyler Bey, and I think Tyler's going to be a solid backup forward. Saddiq's a better athlete than given credit for. A while back I compared Vassell to Danny Green - I still like that comp. But Nesmith is the one I'd go after - of the ones mentioned. He's the best shooter - easily, imo - and he's also a good defender. All of these guys have good defensive versatility.
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Post#307 » by soxperry » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:52 pm

how crazy would that be if there was another Giannis type sitting out there somewhere and we managed to draft him. Giannis takes him under his wing and they grow a mutual respect so that when his game develops they can co exist in harmony.

just one more Giannis and i'm happy
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Post#308 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:39 pm

soxperry wrote:how crazy would that be if there was another Giannis type sitting out there somewhere and we managed to draft him. Giannis takes him under his wing and they grow a mutual respect so that when his game develops they can co exist in harmony.

just one more Giannis and i'm happy

I think the Bucks were kinda thinking that way when they drafted Thon Maker.
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Post#309 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:47 pm

I keep seeing Jalen Smith in the 20-30 range and wonder what's missing. Good length, explosive bounce, shot-blocking instincts, good rebounder, solid FT shooter for a big (75%), has shown the ability to stretch the floor (36% 3PT), and he only turns 20 in March. He's got Myles Turner upside written all over him.
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Post#310 » by LuessiT » Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:47 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I keep seeing Jalen Smith in the 20-30 range and wonder what's missing. Good length, explosive bounce, shot-blocking instincts, good rebounder, solid FT shooter for a big (75%), has shown the ability to stretch the floor (36% 3PT), and he only turns 20 in March. He's got Myles Turner upside written all over him.


I don't think you're missing too much. I feel like mid season mocks are highly inaccurate filled with players that don't have too easy of a path to become an NBA contributer. Fits the modern game very well and should have an easy time carving out a role at the next stage.
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Post#311 » by M-C-G » Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:58 pm

soxperry wrote:how crazy would that be if there was another Giannis type sitting out there somewhere and we managed to draft him. Giannis takes him under his wing and they grow a mutual respect so that when his game develops they can co exist in harmony.

just one more Giannis and i'm happy


There is a world of difference with a rookie walking into this culture as opposed to what rookies were walking into the last 20 years.


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Post#312 » by M-C-G » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:00 pm

I guess I will post it here, DDV is our long term 1.

Wouldn’t mind a 2/3 that compliments the roster that is day 1 ready or has high upside


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Post#313 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 2, 2020 2:52 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:I keep seeing Jalen Smith in the 20-30 range and wonder what's missing. Good length, explosive bounce, shot-blocking instincts, good rebounder, solid FT shooter for a big (75%), has shown the ability to stretch the floor (36% 3PT), and he only turns 20 in March. He's got Myles Turner upside written all over him.


I don't think you're missing too much. I feel like mid season mocks are highly inaccurate filled with players that don't have too easy of a path to become an NBA contributer. Fits the modern game very well and should have an easy time carving out a role at the next stage.

MD alum/fan here: I agree with you 2. He stepped up this season after he was moved from primarily PF to C - after the Mitchell twins transferred. He does have the occasional bad game where he's sloppy with the ball and makes careless passes. Has decent but not great hands. Really built up his body in the offseason though he still has thin legs. Good defender but he's not great on switches when he's supposed to get back to his man. He'll never be a star, but I see him as a very good 3rd big - able to switch between the 4 and 5. Great attitude - teammates, coaches and fans love him - though he's not an alpha type. Yes, he does look a little like Larry Sanders - with the glasses. He's not as long as Larry.
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Post#314 » by VooDoo7 » Mon Mar 2, 2020 3:20 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.

Are you saying it would make Vassell-lean??
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Post#315 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 2, 2020 8:33 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.

Are you saying it would make Vassell-lean??


That's gotta be a violation of some sort. Flagrant 2? :nonono:
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Post#316 » by HaroldinGMinor » Mon Mar 2, 2020 9:06 pm

Get a guy that can shoot, pass, and hang onto the ball on offense, and play great man to man on the other end. I'd rather get a polished player than a raw project.
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Post#317 » by VooDoo7 » Mon Mar 2, 2020 10:49 pm

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I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.

Are you saying it would make Vassell-lean??


That's gotta be a violation of some sort. Flagrant 2? :nonono:

Why? What do you use Vaseline for??

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Post#318 » by RiotPunch » Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:27 pm

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TroyD92 wrote:Gotta say I like Vassell


I think a sustained professional training and diet program would make him pretty formidable.

Are you saying it would make Vassell-lean??

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Post#319 » by emunney » Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:58 pm

**** it this is who I want.

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Post#320 » by emunney » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:01 pm

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