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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#541 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:41 am

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:I don't see how Hali makes any sense, he handles the ball a ton too and his shot is all kinds of ugly. That busted **** looks like Shawn Marion.

Avdija seems like he would be the 3&D guy if we're going to draft by fit. Maybe Okoro if he can improve his shot.


well, for one, Hali is a much, much better defender than all of the above players, can defend 1-2 easily, so he can play with Steph in the back court at any point and you wouldn't have to worry about defense.

two, Hali doesn't need the ball to contribute, he's a good spot-up shooter, knows how to slash and set screens, averages 6.5 assists on only 20 usage (which is an absolutely elite ratio).

he's a seamless fit on this team because of his defense and off-ball game, that's what we should always be looking for.


would assume he'd be a 2nd unit guy anyway. so even if he was ball dominate he'd be fine as the orchestrator for that unit i would think.


yup, would be the perfect 2nd unit guy for us, because he can also play with our starters

you can play him at the 1 and just slide Steph/Klay down to the 2 and 3 and you wouldn't lose much size or defense in the process (which was the point of the death lineup when we put Iggy at the 1).
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#542 » by Mylie10 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:44 am

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well, for one, Hali is a much, much better defender than all of the above players, can defend 1-2 easily, so he can play with Steph in the back court at any point and you wouldn't have to worry about defense.

two, Hali doesn't need the ball to contribute, he's a good spot-up shooter, knows how to slash and set screens, averages 6.5 assists on only 20 usage (which is an absolutely elite ratio).

he's a seamless fit on this team because of his defense and off-ball game, that's what we should always be looking for.


would assume he'd be a 2nd unit guy anyway. so even if he was ball dominate he'd be fine as the orchestrator for that unit i would think.


yup, would be the perfect 2nd unit guy for us, because he can also play with our starters

you can play him at the 1 and just slide Steph/Klay down to the 2 and 3 and you wouldn't lose much size or defense in the process (which was the point of the death lineup when we put Iggy at the 1).


Exactly...we need a combo guard running the bench unit to help Paschall score. Maybe develope some pick and roll capabilities.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#543 » by Marcus » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:45 am

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well, for one, Hali is a much, much better defender than all of the above players, can defend 1-2 easily, so he can play with Steph in the back court at any point and you wouldn't have to worry about defense.

two, Hali doesn't need the ball to contribute, he's a good spot-up shooter, knows how to slash and set screens, averages 6.5 assists on only 20 usage (which is an absolutely elite ratio).

he's a seamless fit on this team because of his defense and off-ball game, that's what we should always be looking for.


would assume he'd be a 2nd unit guy anyway. so even if he was ball dominate he'd be fine as the orchestrator for that unit i would think.


yup, would be the perfect 2nd unit guy for us, because he can also play with our starters

you can play him at the 1 and just slide Steph/Klay down to the 2 and 3 and you wouldn't lose much size or defense in the process (which was the point of the death lineup when we put Iggy at the 1).


yeah the ShaunDre Liggyston role would be what i expect from Hali on this team.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#544 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:52 am

Getting Shaun Livingston with more range isn't what I want from a top 3 pick. If we want to trade down and take him 10th, then sure.
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Post#545 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:59 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Getting Shaun Livingston with more range isn't what I want from a top 3 pick. If we want to trade down and take him 10th, then sure.


i'd rather a Shaun Livingston with range on this team than another D-Lo
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Post#546 » by Marcus » Tue Mar 3, 2020 12:59 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Getting Shaun Livingston with more range isn't what I want from a top 3 pick. If we want to trade down and take him 10th, then sure.


Pretty sure that would be the expectation is to trade down to get him instead of taking him near the top
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Post#547 » by cdubbz » Tue Mar 3, 2020 1:16 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Getting Shaun Livingston with more range isn't what I want from a top 3 pick. If we want to trade down and take him 10th, then sure.


At the end of the day when you look back at really weak drafts sometimes the best player comes pst pick 10.

Although still wouldn’t skip on wiseman if available and we have a top 3 pick
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Post#548 » by azwfan » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:43 am

The more i read and youtube about the players in this draft, the less interested I am in it.

Myers has some work to do with the TPE, TPMLE, and vet minimum contracts. We seriously need to come up with some rotation players with those assets if we want to compete next year. With Curry on board we should be much improved. But I wouldn't expect Klay to be "all star Klay" next season and we have absolutely no bench aside from MAYBE Paschall and HOPEFULLY a healthy/in-shape Looney.
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Post#549 » by Mylie10 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:59 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:Getting Shaun Livingston with more range isn't what I want from a top 3 pick. If we want to trade down and take him 10th, then sure.


For me, I want Wiseman. I think a Haliburton pick would have more to do with a possible trade down. At least for me. I know others will disagree.

But remember, in this draft you are looking at a rotation player, not necessarily an All Star. If we didn't have Steph and Klay, I think Haliburton could be a starter. Just like Livingston and Iguodala were on other teams.

Wiseman is a home run type pick to me. Everyone else is a roll of the dice.
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Post#550 » by Onus » Tue Mar 3, 2020 5:14 am

Trading down seems so unrealistic with how craptacular this draft is that you’re wasting your time with any trade down scenario.

My top 5 considering our needs
Wiseman
Halliburton
Okoro
Reed
Maybe Avedja


I think my number 1 target would be Paul reed. I really think we need another disruptive defensive player that covers a ton of ground defensively, grabs rebounds and can shoot.

I think a player like pascal siakam would be the best fit for this team.
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Post#551 » by freypies » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:06 am

Onus wrote:Trading down seems so unrealistic with how craptacular this draft is that you’re wasting your time with any trade down scenario.

My top 5 considering our needs
Wiseman
Halliburton
Okoro
Reed
Maybe Avedja


I think my number 1 target would be Paul reed. I really think we need another disruptive defensive player that covers a ton of ground defensively, grabs rebounds and can shoot.

I think a player like pascal siakam would be the best fit for this team.


If we can somehow get Reed and Haliburton from this draft, that will be a huge success in my book.
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#552 » by Rudruff » Tue Mar 3, 2020 3:15 pm

Trading down for wings makes me nervous. I would be much more confident in having a PG or C be there when I traded down.
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Post#553 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 4:44 pm

In no particular order

Wiseman
Okoro
Avdija
Haliburton

Okoro is the best defender in the draft and while his shot is suspect he's a great athlete and a good slasher/finisher and that can work for the Warriors.

Wiseman, just all questions. Fans are not going to really know anything about him until next season starts. It's all about the combine and tryouts for him.

Avdija is also a bit of an unknown, but the more he's played with pros the better he's played. If his measurables are good enough at the combine he may be the best fit for the Warriors in this whole draft.

Haliburton is the least "need" player, but he's a Warrior.

Ideally a trade down and still get one of the above, but don't risk missing out on one of them.
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Post#554 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Mar 3, 2020 6:49 pm

I wish there was more tape of Avdija. He intrigues me a lot, but my entire exposure to him is like 15 minutes of youtube videos.
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Post#555 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 7:07 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:I wish there was more tape of Avdija. He intrigues me a lot, but my entire exposure to him is like 15 minutes of youtube videos.


there's an active thread on him on the draft board, good stuff in there if u want from guys who live in europe and watch him all the time
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Post#556 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:15 pm

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)
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Re: 2020 Draft Thread 

Post#557 » by Marcus » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:27 pm

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:I wish there was more tape of Avdija. He intrigues me a lot, but my entire exposure to him is like 15 minutes of youtube videos.


there's an active thread on him on the draft board, good stuff in there if u want from guys who live in europe and watch him all the time


hey Kev...feel free to drop by Draft board in general we got some good folks over there.
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Post#558 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:50 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)


yup, which is why we need to trade down...that should be priority #1.
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Post#559 » by Little Digger » Tue Mar 3, 2020 9:58 pm

Yes what we need for the playoffs next season is multiple rookies in the rotation..1 isn’t good enough

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Post#560 » by freypies » Tue Mar 3, 2020 10:35 pm

Hey Clyde, what is it about Josh Green that you like so much?

I watched him in person in games against Cal, and have watched a few other games of his, and I just don't see what it is that you see. I like his effort and smartness on defense, but he just doesn't seem like a capable shooter, nor as someone who can create offense. What makes you prefer him over guys like Vassell/Bey/Reed/etc?

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