2020 Draft Thread

[Scoots1994]

yup, which is why we need to trade down...that should be priority #1.

They can absolutely trade down, shouldn't priority #1 getting the most talent for their assets not just trading down? I'd hate for them to find the guy they like, trade down, and miss out on that player.

[clyde21]

yup, which is why we need to trade down...that should be priority #1.

They can absolutely trade down, shouldn't priority #1 getting the most talent for their assets not just trading down? I'd hate for them to find the guy they like, trade down, and miss out on that player.

the talent at the top of this draft is is iffy, and to make it worse, it's not a great fit for this team, LaMelo makes sense on a team like New York but not the Warriors for example

if I'm GM i'm trading down is my first option if it's a good deal.

[Scoots1994]

yup, which is why we need to trade down...that should be priority #1.

They can absolutely trade down, shouldn't priority #1 getting the most talent for their assets not just trading down? I'd hate for them to find the guy they like, trade down, and miss out on that player.

the talent at the top of this draft is is iffy, and to make it worse, it's not a great fit for this team, LaMelo makes sense on a team like New York but not the Warriors for example

if I'm GM i'm trading down is my first option if it's a good deal.

"if it's a good deal" is the problem though. It's not a good deal if they trade out of the limited talent for a pick next year that could be pretty late in the draft.

Like I said, if they find a player they like and they can trade down and still get him, then absolutely go for it, but don't trade down just because someone makes an offer. I doubt anyone offers a particularly great deals.

[clyde21]

They can absolutely trade down, shouldn't priority #1 getting the most talent for their assets not just trading down? I'd hate for them to find the guy they like, trade down, and miss out on that player.

the talent at the top of this draft is is iffy, and to make it worse, it's not a great fit for this team, LaMelo makes sense on a team like New York but not the Warriors for example

if I'm GM i'm trading down is my first option if it's a good deal.

"if it's a good deal" is the problem though. It's not a good deal if they trade out of the limited talent for a pick next year that could be pretty late in the draft.

Like I said, if they find a player they like and they can trade down and still get him, then absolutely go for it, but don't trade down just because someone makes an offer. I doubt anyone offers a particularly great deals.

well yea, if we get offered a crappy deal we don't need to trade down...that's a given. should clarify: priority #1 should be finding a GOOD deal to trade down.

and u don't know what they will offer. who knows who will fall in love with LaMelo or Antman or Wiseman.

[KevinMcreynolds]

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)

yup, which is why we need to trade down...that should be priority #1.

I'm open to anything. It's too bad there isn't a team with something like the 7th and 10th picks because getting Obi and your boy Haliburton would be two win-now guys.

[cdubbz]

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)

Lamelo pedigree is terrible?! Brother is an NBA starter and #2 overall pick. They have great vision in their genes, a weird shot, but also unselfishness to their game.

Lamelo is highly underrated because of his father but he is an elite prospect. 6’6 point guard with handles, vision, & creativity?? His build, shot consistency will come. Defense? That’s the gamble but the Balls are workers. If you don’t like Lamelos game you will regret it imo.

[Scoots1994]

the talent at the top of this draft is is iffy, and to make it worse, it's not a great fit for this team, LaMelo makes sense on a team like New York but not the Warriors for example

if I'm GM i'm trading down is my first option if it's a good deal.

"if it's a good deal" is the problem though. It's not a good deal if they trade out of the limited talent for a pick next year that could be pretty late in the draft.

Like I said, if they find a player they like and they can trade down and still get him, then absolutely go for it, but don't trade down just because someone makes an offer. I doubt anyone offers a particularly great deals.

well yea, if we get offered a crappy deal we don't need to trade down...that's a given. should clarify: priority #1 should be finding a GOOD deal to trade down.

and u don't know what they will offer. who knows who will fall in love with LaMelo or Antman or Wiseman.

Yes, and I hope someone does fall deeply in love with them. I just don't want to trade just to trade like some are implying.

Ideally they get an offer of some future picks and a top 10 first this year (the higher the better obviosly) for the Warriors pick. Well, IDEALLY they get the player they want and a high first in the future for a trade down

[KevinMcreynolds]

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)

Lamelo pedigree is terrible?! Brother is an NBA starter and #2 overall pick. They have great vision in their genes, a weird shot, but also unselfishness to their game.

Lamelo is highly underrated because of his father but he is an elite prospect. 6’6 point guard with handles, vision, & creativity?? His build, shot consistency will come. Defense? That’s the gamble but the Balls are workers. If you don’t like Lamelos game you will regret it imo.

They’re basically coddled AAU streetballers. Hard pass.

[clyde21]

Yes what we need for the playoffs next season is multiple rookies in the rotation..1 isn’t good enough

Everybody knows you can’t win with Vet role players in the postseason

because you can't sign vet players if you draft a couple of rookies?

[Mylie10]

Draft - Sleeper pick....Devin Vassell Florida State. Dude will be a damn good Pro.

He's about 6'7", extremely long. He's got all kinds of extra moves. Good shooting numbers as well.

Keep an eye on him in the Tourney.

He's gonna be a much better pro than college player.

[ChuckDurn]

Draft - Sleeper pick....Devin Vassell Florida State. Dude will be a damn good Pro.

He's about 6'7", extremely long. He's got all kinds of extra moves. Good shooting numbers as well.

Keep an eye on him in the Tourney.

He's gonna be a much better pro than college player.

He’s been rising, a couple of sites already have him going around #15, so he’s not as much of a secret anymore.....

[clyde21]

Vassell has been getting mocked top20

[clyde21]

how about a S&T deal with the Wizards

they get Andrew Wiggins and the 1st pick, we get their 9th pick + Davis Bertans and Isaac Bonga

then we can stay put at 9, or even trade back again with someone like Boston for #17 and #27.

[shazam_guy]

Everybody seems very intent on trading down, but the best choices are still at the top of the draft. Toppin is a big who can run the court, block shots, score in the paint, and he's shooting a little under 40 percent from three.

What's not to like? He'll probably fall right in the Warriors range if they don't get the number one. He could contribute immediately and for several years to come. This guy isn't Ike Diogu. He can do all kinds of things on different parts of the court.

[Little Digger]

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)

Lamelo pedigree is terrible?! Brother is an NBA starter and #2 overall pick. They have great vision in their genes, a weird shot, but also unselfishness to their game.

Lamelo is highly underrated because of his father but he is an elite prospect. 6’6 point guard with handles, vision, & creativity?? His build, shot consistency will come. Defense? That’s the gamble but the Balls are workers. If you don’t like Lamelos game you will regret it imo.

+1

He’s a big risk but the herd focusing in on the dad ? = way too much time watching/listening to sports talk ..

Lonzo is totally unselfish and maybe LaMelo will be totally selfish..I don’t know..but to say his pedigree is terrible ? Come on people ..get a clue.

[cdubbz]

Everybody seems very intent on trading down, but the best choices are still at the top of the draft. Toppin is a big who can run the court, block shots, score in the paint, and he's shooting a little under 40 percent from three.

What's not to like? He'll probably fall right in the Warriors range if they don't get the number one. He could contribute immediately and for several years to come. This guy isn't Ike Diogu. He can do all kinds of things on different parts of the court.

Toppin is very nice, but has a lower ceiling than the other top guys imo. Wiseman has high potential and can fill a position of need right away

[KevinMcreynolds]

this draft is frustrating, I don't feel totally comfortable with anyone

Avdija looks like he has the confidence and all the tools, but you can help but have Hezonja and all the other euro busts in the back of your mind
Wiseman looks like a beast, but he's such an unknown and quitting on Memphis isn't a good sign for the work ethic
Edwards looks like an elite NBA scorer, but he mailed it in halfway through the season (also not a good sign)
Lamelo has an adolescent body and his family pedigree is terrible
Okoro has a lot of talent, but can't shoot for **** yet and is definitely a project

and that might be the top 5 picks (in no particular order)

Lamelo pedigree is terrible?! Brother is an NBA starter and #2 overall pick. They have great vision in their genes, a weird shot, but also unselfishness to their game.

Lamelo is highly underrated because of his father but he is an elite prospect. 6’6 point guard with handles, vision, & creativity?? His build, shot consistency will come. Defense? That’s the gamble but the Balls are workers. If you don’t like Lamelos game you will regret it imo.

+1

He’s a big risk but the herd focusing in on the dad ? = way too much time watching/listening to sports talk ..

Lonzo is totally unselfish and maybe LaMelo will be totally selfish..I don’t know..but to say his pedigree is terrible ? Come on people ..get a clue.

Lonzo is a top 3 pick that is still a below average point guard in his 3rd year, and Lamelo has had a 10x more dysfunctional road to the NBA. This kid's game is full of talent, but you can tell there is zero formal coaching mixed in there. He's going to have a steep learning curve in the NBA.

[freypies]

Everybody seems very intent on trading down, but the best choices are still at the top of the draft. Toppin is a big who can run the court, block shots, score in the paint, and he's shooting a little under 40 percent from three.

What's not to like? He'll probably fall right in the Warriors range if they don't get the number one. He could contribute immediately and for several years to come. This guy isn't Ike Diogu. He can do all kinds of things on different parts of the court.

Toppin has big defensive issues. He's just not very good on that end.

[cdubbz]

Lamelo pedigree is terrible?! Brother is an NBA starter and #2 overall pick. They have great vision in their genes, a weird shot, but also unselfishness to their game.

Lamelo is highly underrated because of his father but he is an elite prospect. 6’6 point guard with handles, vision, & creativity?? His build, shot consistency will come. Defense? That’s the gamble but the Balls are workers. If you don’t like Lamelos game you will regret it imo.

+1

He’s a big risk but the herd focusing in on the dad ? = way too much time watching/listening to sports talk ..

Lonzo is totally unselfish and maybe LaMelo will be totally selfish..I don’t know..but to say his pedigree is terrible ? Come on people ..get a clue.

Lonzo is a top 3 pick that is still a below average point guard in his 3rd year, and Lamelo has had a 10x more dysfunctional road to the NBA. This kid's game is full of talent, but you can tell there is zero formal coaching mixed in there. He's going to have a steep learning curve in the NBA.

Lonzo is 22yo lol. He’s been injured a whole lot and this Pelicans team he has been thriving.

And what is ‘formal coaching’ nowadays anyways? Mike D’Antoni is running an offense that the Ball brothers were doing in high school. Times have changed.

[KevinMcreynolds]

+1

He’s a big risk but the herd focusing in on the dad ? = way too much time watching/listening to sports talk ..

Lonzo is totally unselfish and maybe LaMelo will be totally selfish..I don’t know..but to say his pedigree is terrible ? Come on people ..get a clue.

Lonzo is a top 3 pick that is still a below average point guard in his 3rd year, and Lamelo has had a 10x more dysfunctional road to the NBA. This kid's game is full of talent, but you can tell there is zero formal coaching mixed in there. He's going to have a steep learning curve in the NBA.

Lonzo is 22yo lol. He’s been injured a whole lot and this Pelicans team he has been thriving.

And what is ‘formal coaching’ nowadays anyways? Mike D’Antoni is running an offense that the Ball brothers were doing in high school. Times have changed.

Formal coaching would be something like Paschall got from Jay Wright, which obviously made him an instant success in the NBA. But that's an extreme case of 4 years from the best coach. But even looking at 2 year guys like Toppin and Haliburton, or guys that play a year under coach K, etc...their games are so much more refined than a kid like Lamelo.

I think what's getting lost in all this is we're talking about taking Lamelo with a potential top 3 pick and putting him on a team that will be contending next year. If we were rebuilding and had a late lottery pick or something, I'd be perfectly fine with taking a shot, but no way in hell I'm I taking on a project like him.