Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[the_process]

Would you take Powell, Wright, and Jackson from Dallas in exchange for Horford and the NYK 2nd?

Nah. Powell is pretty much dead weight with that Achilles. Wright is a decent rotation player, but not much more than that.

I'm just starting to prepare mentally if, in fact, Horford is negative value. That might be the best they can get.

[youngcrev]

Would you take Powell, Wright, and Jackson from Dallas in exchange for Horford and the NYK 2nd?

Nah. Powell is pretty much dead weight with that Achilles. Wright is a decent rotation player, but not much more than that.

I'm just starting to prepare mentally if, in fact, Horford is negative value. That might be the best they can get.

It might be. I'd rather just keep him at that rate though.

[the_process]

Nah. Powell is pretty much dead weight with that Achilles. Wright is a decent rotation player, but not much more than that.

I'm just starting to prepare mentally if, in fact, Horford is negative value. That might be the best they can get.

It might be. I'd rather just keep him at that rate though.

If Horford requests a trade, which has got be at least a 50/50 proposition at this point, they're going to have to take something.

[youngcrev]

I'm just starting to prepare mentally if, in fact, Horford is negative value. That might be the best they can get.

It might be. I'd rather just keep him at that rate though.

If Horford requests a trade, which has got be at least a 50/50 proposition at this point, they're going to have to take something.

Maybe. I think they'd be able to get something more desirable than that, if not more valuable.

[51X3RF4N]

If Minny can add a 1st and a 2nd to Andrew Wiggins and come away with D'Angelo Russell... the Sixers will be able to move Horford. I'm thinking he's going to quietly request a trade after the playoffs, anyway.

I'm fairly confident he is letting his play on the court do the talking to the front office. Chucking every 3pt shot he can is a clear example of not playing team basketball, not being the leader he was on other teams, and not wanting to be here.

[Kobblehead]

Andrew Wiggins is young, productive scorer with star upside.

Al Horford would be a then 34 year old diminishing role player on an albatross contract.

How would one of these guys getting moved speak to the ability to move the other?

[the_process]

Andrew Wiggins is young, productive scorer with star upside.

Al Horford would be a then 34 year old diminishing role player on an albatross contract.

How would one of these guys getting moved speak to the ability to move the other?

Wiggins is a no defense chucker who can't shoot and doesn't rebound. He can pass a little, sure.

Horford makes more positive contributions than Wiggins does. Even if Al right now is playing like he wants to be elsewhere.

[76ciology]

Sixers get: Bradley Beal

Wizards get:

Spoiler:

[youngcrev]

Until Chris Paul inevitably gets injured in the first round, I'm gonna be bummed we didn't trade for him.

[PhillyFan11]

Andrew Wiggins is young, productive scorer with star upside.

Al Horford would be a then 34 year old diminishing role player on an albatross contract.

How would one of these guys getting moved speak to the ability to move the other?

Wiggins is a no defense chucker who can't shoot and doesn't rebound. He can pass a little, sure.

Horford makes more positive contributions than Wiggins does. Even if Al right now is playing like he wants to be elsewhere.

What games are you watching? What is it that you see Horford doing that most backup bigs in the league can’t do?
Horford is 100% untradeable unless we add assets and get next to nothing in return. No way he doesn’t have 1 of the top 5 worst contracts in basketball right now.

[Iscull]

Until Chris Paul inevitably gets injured in the first round, I'm gonna be bummed we didn't trade for him.

I got roasted for originally mentioning we should trade for him on this thread. In the end - would likely be in a significantly better place.

I get his contract sucks and he’s getting older, but at least he would fit our scheme offensively and provide much a needed scoring option. Especially if we’re paying Al $25MM+...

[51X3RF4N]

Quick cap question for those smarter than me:

If we trade Horford and Richardson this offseason, and don't take back any salary, how much space would we have to sign free agents?? Any?

[youngcrev]

Quick cap question for those smarter than me:

If we trade Horford and Richardson this offseason, and don't take back any salary, how much space would we have to sign free agents?? Any?

Projected cap is 115.

Jo/Ben/Tobi make about 90. Scott, Zhaire, Thybulle is another 10. Once you factor in minimum salary roster cap holds... You'd have around the MLE basically

[the_process]

Horford and Zhaire to DEN for Harris and Grant

[the_process]

Wondering if CLE might be a good destination to send Tobias to...

[PhillyFan11]

Tobi and Al to the Hornets for Rozier, Batum and Zeller

Rozier is a good fit for us as a ball handling, shot creating, good 3 point shooting guard. Batum and Zeller are expiring deals after next year.
Hornets are likely desperate to put a winning team on the court and the emergence of Graham makes Rozier a little redundant in small PG’s.

Might make us slightly worse for next year, but the future cap relief and getting rid of bad contracts is the real point of the trade.

[the_process]

I'm of the hope last night propels Vivek to make a offer for Al or Tobias or both in the offseason.

[ProcessDoctor]

I'm of the hope last night propels Vivek to make a offer for Al or Tobias or both in the offseason.

Whichever one would net us Buddy + Bjielica is the one I'd give up. Harris would probably hold more value to them, but during the offseason they were rumored to be interested in both.

Would you do AL + Harris for Buddy + Bjielica + Barnes?

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Andrew Wiggins is young, productive scorer with star upside.

Al Horford would be a then 34 year old diminishing role player on an albatross contract.

How would one of these guys getting moved speak to the ability to move the other?

Wiggins is a no defense chucker who can't shoot and doesn't rebound. He can pass a little, sure.

Horford makes more positive contributions than Wiggins does. Even if Al right now is playing like he wants to be elsewhere.

I'd take Wiggins over Horford all day every day. Without twisting your words are you basically saying that we could have traded Horford for Wiggins at the deadline? Because that's a trade you do a thousand times over and over. I'm not saying that's what you're implying, but you're comparing the two in terms of trade value and I don't see where Horford is as valuable as Wiggins. If Horford was 8 years younger then yes....you might have something. Right now, Horford looks like Wayman Tisdale during his Phoenix Suns tenure. Old...and past his prime. I don't think moving him this offseason will be easy at all. We'll have to attach future and possibly current valuable assets to get rid of him. Signing him to this horrifically bad contract should be a fireable offense in my opinion. Sure....we have Ben and Embiid and IF they can stay healthy, we'll be a playoff team, but Horfords contract will prove to be crushing. It may even cause us to trade one of Simmons or Embiid. It's by far the worst signing we have ever made in team history. Yes....It blows the Brand signing out of the water. Awful awful awful. We could have just signed Dwayne Dedmon. Or Hell....Julius Randle.

[the_process]

Andrew Wiggins is young, productive scorer with star upside.

Al Horford would be a then 34 year old diminishing role player on an albatross contract.

How would one of these guys getting moved speak to the ability to move the other?

Wiggins is a no defense chucker who can't shoot and doesn't rebound. He can pass a little, sure.

Horford makes more positive contributions than Wiggins does. Even if Al right now is playing like he wants to be elsewhere.

I'd take Wiggins over Horford all day every day. Without twisting your words are you basically saying that we could have traded Horford for Wiggins at the deadline? Because that's a trade you do a thousand times over and over. I'm not saying that's what you're implying, but you're comparing the two in terms of trade value and I don't see where Horford is as valuable as Wiggins. If Horford was 8 years younger then yes....you might have something. Right now, Horford looks like Wayman Tisdale during his Phoenix Suns tenure. Old...and past his prime. I don't think moving him this offseason will be easy at all. We'll have to attach future and possibly current valuable assets to get rid of him. Signing him to this horrifically bad contract should be a fireable offense in my opinion. Sure....we have Ben and Embiid and IF they can stay healthy, we'll be a playoff team, but Horfords contract will prove to be crushing. It may even cause us to trade one of Simmons or Embiid. It's by far the worst signing we have ever made in team history. Yes....It blows the Brand signing out of the water. Awful awful awful. We could have just signed Dwayne Dedmon. Or Hell....Julius Randle.

All I can say is every advanced metric there is says that Horford, even as crappy as he's looked this year, still impacts the game more positively than Wiggins does.