Christian Wood upcoming contract

[edmunder_prc]

What is the upper limit of a guy that can score 25 ppg / 10+ rebounds / 1 block, etc. Low turnovers (no 9 turnover games like Andre for example).

Other guys in the league making big bucks.

These are guys salary for next year

Tim Hardaway - 19 million
Kevin Love - 30 million a year for a couple more years
Andre - Opting into 30 million
Terry Rozier - 19 million
Cody Zeller - 15 million
Zach Lavine - 19 million (Comparable? Young and very talented)
Thaddeus Young - 13.5 million
Harrison Barnes - 22 million
Buddy Hield - 24 million
Julius Randle - 19 million
Taurean Prince - 14 million
D'Angelo Russell - 28 million (Would you rather have D'Angelo or Wood at 28 million, haha, poor T'Wolves)

Adding a few more
Aaron Gordon - 18 million
Evan Fournier - 17 million

Clint Capela - 17.5 million next, then 18.5 then 19.5 (Would you rather Capela or Wood with that contract?)


I just looked through some of the other lotto teams

His agent is going to look at those contracts and explain that Wood is playing better than most of them and want 20 million a year for 4 years. Contracts have been increasing over time - But I've also heard the cap is going down because of China related losses. Not sure if that is true.

Is 80/4 out of the question for a guy still not in his prime?

[Han Solo]

3-4 years, 12-14 a year.

[edmunder_prc]

Aaron Gordon - 19 million this year, 18 million next - He's 24 years old too.

Who is better? Would you rather have Aaron Gordon at 18 million or Wood?

[Billl]

You might want to only include salary comparisons for guys who aren't seen as cap slugs. I hope we can keep him, but if someone is offering $20 million, he should take that and run.

[MotownMadness]

Aaron Gordon - 19 million this year, 18 million next - He's 24 years old too.

Who is better? Would you rather have Aaron Gordon at 18 million or Wood?

Wood is better, he’ll get somewhere between 14-18 per year I would imagine

[edmunder_prc]

You might want to only include salary comparisons for guys who aren't seen as cap slugs. I hope we can keep him, but if someone is offering $20 million, he should take that and run.

What Im trying to show is that there are a lot of teams with contracts for guys in the high teens, with several more years, that are not nearly as talented as Wood.

His agent will point this out. He's going to want Aaron Gordon/Clint Capela/Julius Randle money, for sure. Plus normal increases, thats 20 million a year.

[Billl]

You might want to only include salary comparisons for guys who aren't seen as cap slugs. I hope we can keep him, but if someone is offering $20 million, he should take that and run.

What Im trying to show is that there are a lot of teams with contracts for guys in the high teens, with several more years, that are not nearly as talented as Wood.

His agent will point this out. He's going to want Aaron Gordon/Clint Capela/Julius Randle money, for sure. Plus normal increases, thats 20 million a year.

And what I'm saying is that it's a bad comparison to use guys who are universally seen as overpaid and/or virtually untradable because of their contracts. You may as well say that wood is more valuable than an injured Blake, so lets give him $50 million/yr

[Drwho17]

Aaron Gordon - 19 million this year, 18 million next - He's 24 years old too.

Who is better? Would you rather have Aaron Gordon at 18 million or Wood?

I think Wood is probably more valuable at this point.

[edmunder_prc]

You might want to only include salary comparisons for guys who aren't seen as cap slugs. I hope we can keep him, but if someone is offering $20 million, he should take that and run.

What Im trying to show is that there are a lot of teams with contracts for guys in the high teens, with several more years, that are not nearly as talented as Wood.

His agent will point this out. He's going to want Aaron Gordon/Clint Capela/Julius Randle money, for sure. Plus normal increases, thats 20 million a year.

And what I'm saying is that it's a bad comparison to use guys who are universally seen as overpaid and/or virtually untradable because of their contracts. You may as well say that wood is more valuable than an injured Blake, so lets give him $50 million/yr

No sir.

Aaron Gordon - 18 million

Clint Capela - 17.5 million next, then 18.5 then 19.5

Those two are not considered bad, untradeable, overpaid players. Capela is considered a great pick up ffor the Hawks!

And Wood is playing better than both.

[Billl]

The magic shopped gordon hard and got no offers. Houston gave up a 1st in moving capella.

[MotownMadness]

The magic shopped gordon hard and got no offers. Houston gave up a 1st in moving capella.

Yeah but Aaron Gordon has been awful and Capela is old school. They aren’t really desirable players at that price. Wood is what they wish AG could be.

[edmunder_prc]

The magic shopped gordon hard and got no offers. Houston gave up a 1st in moving Capella.

I guess thats fair Billl. I'm still in the camp his agent is going to say he should get more than them.

At the same time I'm not sure the 1st from Houston wasn't worth getting Covington - hes looked awesome so far in the games Ive seen on TNT/ESPN.

ATLANTA — The Atlanta Hawks have acquired centers Clint Capela and Nene from the Houston Rockets in a four-team trade involving 12 players, it was announced today. As part of the exchange, the Hawks traded guard/forward Evan Turner and a conditional future first round pick (acquired from Brooklyn on July 6, 2019) to the Minnesota Timberwolves and sent a 2024 second round pick (acquired from Golden State on June 20, 2019) to the Houston Rockets. The Timberwolves also acquire Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez and Jarred Vanderbilt from the Denver Nuggets while Houston will receive Jordan Bell and Robert Covington from the Timberwolves. The Nuggets receive Keita Bates-Diop, Noah Vonleh and Shabazz Napier from Minnesota and Gerald Green and a 2020 first-round pick from Houston.

What a mess of a trade. Houston sent out Capela and a Houston 1st. They got back Covington (11 million a year locked up for a few more years) and a 2024 Hawks 2nd and Jordan Bell.

The Memphis Grizzlies today announced that the team has acquired forward Jordan Bell from the Houston Rockets for forward Bruno Caboclo. In addition, Memphis secured a 2023 second round pick swap with Houston.

Then traded Bell into Caboclo who I dont think Ive seen play yet. But the second swap means they probably get a very early 2nd round pick, which are great picks. Or at least I think thats what the pick swap refers to. Maybe only the Grizz can do it, if they want?

[Billl]

The magic shopped gordon hard and got no offers. Houston gave up a 1st in moving Capella.

I guess thats fair Billl. I'm still in the camp his agent is going to say he should get more than them.

At the same time I'm not sure the 1st from Houston wasn't worth getting Covington - hes looked awesome so far in the games Ive seen on TNT/ESPN.

ATLANTA — The Atlanta Hawks have acquired centers Clint Capela and Nene from the Houston Rockets in a four-team trade involving 12 players, it was announced today. As part of the exchange, the Hawks traded guard/forward Evan Turner and a conditional future first round pick (acquired from Brooklyn on July 6, 2019) to the Minnesota Timberwolves and sent a 2024 second round pick (acquired from Golden State on June 20, 2019) to the Houston Rockets. The Timberwolves also acquire Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez and Jarred Vanderbilt from the Denver Nuggets while Houston will receive Jordan Bell and Robert Covington from the Timberwolves. The Nuggets receive Keita Bates-Diop, Noah Vonleh and Shabazz Napier from Minnesota and Gerald Green and a 2020 first-round pick from Houston.

What a mess of a trade. Houston sent out Capela and a Houston 1st. They got back Covington (11 million a year locked up for a few more years) and a 2024 Hawks 2nd and Jordan Bell.

The Memphis Grizzlies today announced that the team has acquired forward Jordan Bell from the Houston Rockets for forward Bruno Caboclo. In addition, Memphis secured a 2023 second round pick swap with Houston.

Then traded Bell into Caboclo who I dont think Ive seen play yet. But the second swap means they probably get a very early 2nd round pick, which are great picks. Or at least I think thats what the pick swap refers to. Maybe only the Grizz can do it, if they want?

Someone certainly could offer wood a big deal. I don't think they will, but it's possible. Same with Dre. I'm sure Dre's agent was telling him he was going to get paid if he opted out. All it takes is 1 team to overpay. Of course, that doesn't mean WE should be the team that does that.

[Moses ShamMoses]

I think Christian will be wanting that big 2020/21 paycheck. I'm hoping Pistons can stand out by offering him a higher than market price year 1 salary but less guaranteed years.

Say other teams are offering $10-15M per year for 3 or 4 years. We come in at $15-20M per year for 2 years, but 3rd year team option. This protects us long term in case he gets hurt, regresses, or we just change course.

[Kilo]

Our hope is that he's not proven enough for a big offer - so we can get him at a hair above the MLE for a couple of seasons and thus get his FBR's when he's a UFA the same off-season Griffin expires here.

Chris has never got big money, nobody knows how he'll react when he gets it - he had knocks on his maturity in the past, adding millions of dollars to those former issues could be too risky. 2 yr 20M could work for both parties - he proves himself over two more seasons and gets life changing money while hitting UFA again in short order where he'd be 26 yrs old and looking at the possibility of a monster contract.

[JohnReese]

I am starting to think that the best thing is that he walks. He is a good player when the team is terrible, in a good team he would be the energy guy.

Paying more than 6-8 a year makes 0 sense.

[NYPiston]

You might want to only include salary comparisons for guys who aren't seen as cap slugs. I hope we can keep him, but if someone is offering $20 million, he should take that and run.

What Im trying to show is that there are a lot of teams with contracts for guys in the high teens, with several more years, that are not nearly as talented as Wood.

His agent will point this out. He's going to want Aaron Gordon/Clint Capela/Julius Randle money, for sure. Plus normal increases, thats 20 million a year.

There's no comparison. Those guys were way more proven when they signed their deals. Wood only really has half a season of high level production under his belt. I think something like 3 years $45-48m is fair and even that's on the high end of what he should get

[rmfc]

I am starting to think that the best thing is that he walks. He is a good player when the team is terrible, in a good time he would be energy guy.

Paying more than 6-8 a year makes 0 sense.

Agreed completely.

[Invictus88]

I am starting to think that the best thing is that he walks. He is a good player when the team is terrible, in a good time he would be energy guy.

Paying more than 6-8 a year makes 0 sense.

Agreed completely.

At some point you have to start acquiring and retaining talent; otherwise you aren't going to ever get better.
He shoots the 3 well and plays efficiently; so he's going to be more than just 'an energy guy' going forward.

With all of that said he hasn't hurt the tank this year even when he's been arguably our best and most consistent player.

My hope is that teams overlook him because he plays for the Pistons and his salary is kept reasonable due to him having bounced around the league a while. I'm also hoping he decides to stay given that he got is first real chance here and has thrived.

I'm hoping he can be had somewhere with an average contract somewhere in the low teens.

Also, saying that paying more than 6-8 a year makes no sense for a player who is shooting 40% from the 3 and is averaging 20 and 10 in his last 10 games with a PER above 20 is just asinine. There is no other way to say it.

[jakebernat]

I am starting to think that the best thing is that he walks. He is a good player when the team is terrible, in a good time he would be energy guy.

Paying more than 6-8 a year makes 0 sense.

Agreed completely.

At some point you have to start acquiring and retaining talent; otherwise you aren't going to ever get better.
He shoots the 3 well and plays efficiently; so he's going to be more than just 'an energy guy' going forward.

With all of that said he hasn't hurt the tank this year even when he's been arguably our best and most consistent player.

My hope is that teams overlook him because he plays for the Pistons and his salary is kept reasonable due to him having bounced around the league a while. I'm also hoping he decides to stay given that he got is first real chance here and has thrived.

I'm hoping he can be had somewhere with an average contract somewhere in the low teens.

Also, saying that paying more than 6-8 a year makes no sense for a player who is shooting 40% from the 3 and is averaging 20 and 10 in his last 10 games with a PER above 20 is just asinine. There is no other way to say it.

yeah, I had to go back and reread that 6-8 million comment to make sure I didn’t misinterpret that...wow, that’s a doozy of a statement