Lakers agree to a deal with Dion Waiters

[whitelight]

Kuzma man, it's a no brainer. KCP is consistent. Danny green is a vet and is consistent at least on the defensive end. Kuz will not see significant playing time outside of the first round if dion waiters shows he's consistent and not a knucklehead.

There goes the last of Kuzmas trade value we're going to get low-balled this summer.

they still have him locked up for next year. Why trade him this summer? If the lakers fail this year, they need to keep him and just hire a coach that will use the youth of AD and kuzma. Kuzma can play fast pace, his per 36 is just as the same last yr.

He's not an all star, star, etc. He's overrated in that regard, but he's good enough you don't trade him for peanuts.

That's what we said about Lamar Odom, but we gave him away for peanuts.

[NippySudz]

There goes the last of Kuzmas trade value we're going to get low-balled this summer.

they still have him locked up for next year. Why trade him this summer? If the lakers fail this year, they need to keep him and just hire a coach that will use the youth of AD and kuzma. Kuzma can play fast pace, his per 36 is just as the same last yr.

He's not an all star, star, etc. He's overrated in that regard, but he's good enough you don't trade him for peanuts.

That's what we said about Lamar Odom, but we gave him away for peanuts.

That was Mitch kupchak and Lamar Odom .. Who was on CRACK

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[stan francisco]

People here also said that no team with Lamar Odom on it can ever win rings. As the third best player, he could.

I am a big believer in Kuzma having a bright future. Maybe the Kuz I thought would arrive this year will arrive next year. I see his max ceiling potential in terms of impact as a third star on a championship team. Odom, Worthy, Bosh, Tayshaun, or any other third star champion. Behind LeBron and AD he could be that guy. He needs to be included in the offense and he needs to take more space in the offense, get more touches, even if just touchbacks.

A cutting and slashing Kuz is a good Kuz.


Let’s hope Dion keeps it together, plays defense, doesn’t bring the wrong type of cigar to LeBron’s wine hangs.

M’bah A Moute is the type I’d rather look at but yeah, let’s sign another guard who jacks.

Dion better play hard nosed D ...

[tamaraw08]

People here also said that no team with Lamar Odom on it can ever win rings. As the third best player, he could.

I am a big believer in Kuzma having a bright future. Maybe the Kuz I thought would arrive this year will arrive next year. I see his max ceiling potential in terms of impact as a third star on a championship team. Odom, Worthy, Bosh, Tayshaun, or any other third star champion. Behind LeBron and AD he could be that guy. He needs to be included in the offense and he needs to take more space in the offense, get more touches, even if just touchbacks.

A cutting and slashing Kuz is a good Kuz.


Let’s hope Dion keeps it together, plays defense, doesn’t bring the wrong type of cigar to LeBron’s wine hangs.

M’bah A Moute is the type I’d rather look at but yeah, let’s sign another guard who jacks.

Dion better play hard nosed D ...

Yes, I remember Jalen Rose confidently declared Odom will NEVER win anything bec he said, " I don't see it in his eyes".
But please remember Odom was coached by the legendary coach who found a way to maximize Smush and Kwame's abilities.
Vogel failed to maximize allstar Vucevic a couple of years back.
Kuzma has been struggling to hit his 3's but I believe in law of averages and I am hoping he finally gets hot in the playoffs.
I have been critical of Vogel and his staff but I can't see Pelinka not pressuring them to come up with better sets come playoff time.

[NippySudz]

People here also said that no team with Lamar Odom on it can ever win rings. As the third best player, he could.

I am a big believer in Kuzma having a bright future. Maybe the Kuz I thought would arrive this year will arrive next year. I see his max ceiling potential in terms of impact as a third star on a championship team. Odom, Worthy, Bosh, Tayshaun, or any other third star champion. Behind LeBron and AD he could be that guy. He needs to be included in the offense and he needs to take more space in the offense, get more touches, even if just touchbacks.

A cutting and slashing Kuz is a good Kuz.


Let’s hope Dion keeps it together, plays defense, doesn’t bring the wrong type of cigar to LeBron’s wine hangs.

M’bah A Moute is the type I’d rather look at but yeah, let’s sign another guard who jacks.

Dion better play hard nosed D ...

Yes, I remember Jalen Rose confidently declared Odom will NEVER win anything bec he said, " I don't see it in his eyes".
But please remember Odom was coached by the legendary coach who found a way to maximize Smush and Kwame's abilities.
Vogel failed to maximize allstar Vucevic a couple of years back.
Kuzma has been struggling to hit his 3's but I believe in law of averages and I am hoping he finally gets hot in the playoffs.
I have been critical of Vogel and his staff but I can't see Pelinka not pressuring them to come up with better sets come playoff time.

The law of averages dictates that Kuzma is at his average. He's had one year where it's an anomaly. Even in college, he shot 30% from three.

If they flame out this year, Vogel is gone IMO. I hope Jason kidd will not be the replacement

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[whitelight]

they still have him locked up for next year. Why trade him this summer? If the lakers fail this year, they need to keep him and just hire a coach that will use the youth of AD and kuzma. Kuzma can play fast pace, his per 36 is just as the same last yr.

He's not an all star, star, etc. He's overrated in that regard, but he's good enough you don't trade him for peanuts.

That's what we said about Lamar Odom, but we gave him away for peanuts.

That was Mitch kupchak and Lamar Odom .. Who was on CRACK

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Yeah, but we're most likely do it again anyways

[whitelight]

People here also said that no team with Lamar Odom on it can ever win rings. As the third best player, he could.

I am a big believer in Kuzma having a bright future. Maybe the Kuz I thought would arrive this year will arrive next year. I see his max ceiling potential in terms of impact as a third star on a championship team. Odom, Worthy, Bosh, Tayshaun, or any other third star champion. Behind LeBron and AD he could be that guy. He needs to be included in the offense and he needs to take more space in the offense, get more touches, even if just touchbacks.

A cutting and slashing Kuz is a good Kuz.


Let’s hope Dion keeps it together, plays defense, doesn’t bring the wrong type of cigar to LeBron’s wine hangs.

M’bah A Moute is the type I’d rather look at but yeah, let’s sign another guard who jacks.

Dion better play hard nosed D ...

Yes, I remember Jalen Rose confidently declared Odom will NEVER win anything bec he said, " I don't see it in his eyes".
But please remember Odom was coached by the legendary coach who found a way to maximize Smush and Kwame's abilities.
Vogel failed to maximize allstar Vucevic a couple of years back.
Kuzma has been struggling to hit his 3's but I believe in law of averages and I am hoping he finally gets hot in the playoffs.
I have been critical of Vogel and his staff but I can't see Pelinka not pressuring them to come up with better sets come playoff time.

The law of averages dictates that Kuzma is at his average. He's had one year where it's an anomaly. Even in college, he shot 30% from three.

If they flame out this year, Vogel is gone IMO. I hope Jason kidd will not be the replacement

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Yeah get an even worse coach The Lakers will never get it right.

[NippySudz]

Yes, I remember Jalen Rose confidently declared Odom will NEVER win anything bec he said, " I don't see it in his eyes".
But please remember Odom was coached by the legendary coach who found a way to maximize Smush and Kwame's abilities.
Vogel failed to maximize allstar Vucevic a couple of years back.
Kuzma has been struggling to hit his 3's but I believe in law of averages and I am hoping he finally gets hot in the playoffs.
I have been critical of Vogel and his staff but I can't see Pelinka not pressuring them to come up with better sets come playoff time.

The law of averages dictates that Kuzma is at his average. He's had one year where it's an anomaly. Even in college, he shot 30% from three.

If they flame out this year, Vogel is gone IMO. I hope Jason kidd will not be the replacement

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Yeah get an even worse coach The Lakers will never get it right.

If Larry bird doesn't like a coach then IDK why the Lakers would choose that coach, I'm talking about vogel. There's a reason he was fired. Jason Kidd is just horrible. IDK what he has on people

Luckily, Vogel is doing good but we'll see how they do in the playoffs. That'll be his biggest test but IMO he hasn't done a great job of integrating kuzma

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[whitelight]

The law of averages dictates that Kuzma is at his average. He's had one year where it's an anomaly. Even in college, he shot 30% from three.

If they flame out this year, Vogel is gone IMO. I hope Jason kidd will not be the replacement

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Yeah get an even worse coach The Lakers will never get it right.

If Larry bird doesn't like a coach then IDK why the Lakers would choose that coach, I'm talking about vogel. There's a reason he was fired. Jason Kidd is just horrible. IDK what he has on people

Luckily, Vogel is doing good but we'll see how they do in the playoffs. That'll be his biggest test but IMO he hasn't done a great job of integrating kuzma

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The real coach on this team is LeBron and everyone knows it.

[Landsberger]

Not sure anyone is watching if they are diminishing what Vogel has done here. Toss together a team that basically hasn't played together before and get them working together on defense they way we are is basically all on the system and the staff. To do that with a team that had little to no experience together like we have is really a feat in today's game. Most teams take 2+ years of being together to get where we got by week 2 of the season.

Offensively we center everything on LeBron. Not sure any coach changes that but defense is where we have been winning this year.

[Spanish_Laker]

Would have preferred JR Smith, but I trust Pelinka and Vogel.

[stan francisco]

If Pop got his hands on Kuz, he’d be drawing up plays to fit his natural scoring tendencies.

Some players can mold to fit a system. Kuzma is Kuzma, he goes by raw instinct when he plays his best. The system should be bent to accommodate.

[NippySudz]

Yeah get an even worse coach The Lakers will never get it right.

If Larry bird doesn't like a coach then IDK why the Lakers would choose that coach, I'm talking about vogel. There's a reason he was fired. Jason Kidd is just horrible. IDK what he has on people

Luckily, Vogel is doing good but we'll see how they do in the playoffs. That'll be his biggest test but IMO he hasn't done a great job of integrating kuzma

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The real coach on this team is LeBron and everyone knows it.

Paid off last night. If coach Bron wins the chip, then I don't think many Laker fans will have issues with that

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[what would jack bauer do?]

I like the little mini reel of Phil Handy getting work in with him. He's more physically built for the type of off the dribble isolation stuff that Handy is famously known for with his work and praise from kobe, kyrie, kawhi, and lebron.

Dion looks like he can fill that guard getting into the lane on queue role. He doesn't have to necessarily finish at the rim, but just be able to make the defense shift and get us into a situation where our other guys can move the ball and finish. Kuzma is a great finisher once the defense has to close out on him after rotations are made.

Only thing is, is Dion gonna be able to get himself into midseason shape and let alone playoff shape especially with his injury prone past. To me, if he's in shape he can defend at a playoff level.

[Liam_Gallagher]

What's the rotation looking like now? This is what I think:

G - James[34]/Rondo[14]
G - Bradley[22]/Waiters[18]/Caruso
F - Green[24]/Caldwell-Pope[28]
F - Davis[35]/Kuzma[25]/Morris[12]/Dudley
C - McGee[12]/Howard[16]

11 man rotation seems pretty realistic with this deep team. Less of Rondo with LeBron, and more of Waiters. Caruso should play spot minutes when someone's in foul trouble, but will probably be pretty limited going forward. Would love to see him pick up all of Rondo's minutes, but it won't happen.

[TKainZero]

I would rather see what THT has then what waiters is gonna do

But, I am interested

[stan francisco]

He can create his own shot as he has the ability to do a crossover and pull up

That said, the sun shines on a dogs ass every now and then, and we just need one good game (10 point) in a series

That’s a good saying, I might use that one day.

At best, he’ll be ready and know the system enough by end of April. I can see him come in for a Lou Williams type role for spot minutes in the post season but he’s unfortunately not a quicknstudy and he’s gonna have to outplay Caruso, Rondo, Cook, KCP etc for those minutes.

We have yet another mediocre guard. But this one is playing for his NBA life so I think he’ll light it up when given a chance.

Looking forward to be happily surprised.

Welcome, Dion.

[Dr Aki]

It appears Dion Waiters' grandmother has passed away