2020 Offseason Speculation, free agency, summer trades (keep draft prospect talk in draft thread)

[bwgood77]

So, Just a curious thought!

IF it is in fact true that we pursued Gordon at the trade deadline, Who here thinks that it may be reasonable to assume that we could/ would revisit that very trade this summer? Or perhaps even on draft night, As trades by non playoff teams can be initiated right after the regular season ends. If there's someone that we like around the 14-18 range, Could we possibly look to trade back with Orlando and perhaps do a pick swap, inclusive to the trade.

Phoenix/ Orlando-
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=uqg4f5u . *** (Phoenix does a pick swap with Orlando, As they don't feel like they'll find a more productive/ ready 4 in the range of their pick). And at ( #15 or 16) They take either RJ Hampton, Jahmius Ramsey ( * marcus smart) or Theo Maledon. Then in free agency, They put out a solid offer to either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Or Glenn Robinson 3rd. Lastly they offer whatever exception that is available to them to sign...........Nerlens Noel or Alex Len perhaps.

Overall though, I'd hope that they look to return to a hybrid of our "Run N' Gun" days. That's the best way to bring back excitement and a true culture change to this franchise.

So you are saying the Suns should ask for the pick swap, to move down because they think there will be a better player at a later pick?

[TheLogician]

How do we make the salaries work without Oubre? I'd rather have Oubre than Gordon. Only reason to trade him is if he's looking for too much money.

[thamadkant]

Gordon would fit well in many teams but if Ayton is to be maximised, Gordon I believe is not a good fit.... need a finisher and spotter offensively next to Ayton and someone who is quick enough to cover the the perimeter and the paint when Ayton gets drawn out to the perimeter.

[Ghost of Kleine]

So, Just a curious thought!

IF it is in fact true that we pursued Gordon at the trade deadline, Who here thinks that it may be reasonable to assume that we could/ would revisit that very trade this summer? Or perhaps even on draft night, As trades by non playoff teams can be initiated right after the regular season ends. If there's someone that we like around the 14-18 range, Could we possibly look to trade back with Orlando and perhaps do a pick swap, inclusive to the trade.

Phoenix/ Orlando-
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=uqg4f5u . *** (Phoenix does a pick swap with Orlando, As they don't feel like they'll find a more productive/ ready 4 in the range of their pick). And at ( #15 or 16) They take either RJ Hampton, Jahmius Ramsey ( * marcus smart) or Theo Maledon. Then in free agency, They put out a solid offer to either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Or Glenn Robinson 3rd. Lastly they offer whatever exception that is available to them to sign...........Nerlens Noel or Alex Len perhaps.

Overall though, I'd hope that they look to return to a hybrid of our "Run N' Gun" days. That's the best way to bring back excitement and a true culture change to this franchise.

So you are saying the Suns should ask for the pick swap, to move down because they think there will be a better player at a later pick?

Not at all man. And honestly, I'd prefer Toppin or Okungwu, rather than to trade back ( *unless we get additional quality assets, or picks and playets of positional need). But to be clear, With Gordon's recent statistical improvement and production, I strongly believe that will be there sticking point in a possible deal. Especially with consideration to Oubres' meniscus injury. And I really do like Gordon's potential in an open court style of play that benefits his athleticism and explosiveness. But again, I'm just suggesting that will likely be their ultimatum in a potential deal. But also, We may likely accept those terms, IF we feel that in this draft, There's not a better, more ready to contribute option where we will be drafting.

[bwgood77]

So, Just a curious thought!

IF it is in fact true that we pursued Gordon at the trade deadline, Who here thinks that it may be reasonable to assume that we could/ would revisit that very trade this summer? Or perhaps even on draft night, As trades by non playoff teams can be initiated right after the regular season ends. If there's someone that we like around the 14-18 range, Could we possibly look to trade back with Orlando and perhaps do a pick swap, inclusive to the trade.

Phoenix/ Orlando-
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=uqg4f5u . *** (Phoenix does a pick swap with Orlando, As they don't feel like they'll find a more productive/ ready 4 in the range of their pick). And at ( #15 or 16) They take either RJ Hampton, Jahmius Ramsey ( * marcus smart) or Theo Maledon. Then in free agency, They put out a solid offer to either Joe Harris, Bryn Forbes, Or Glenn Robinson 3rd. Lastly they offer whatever exception that is available to them to sign...........Nerlens Noel or Alex Len perhaps.

Overall though, I'd hope that they look to return to a hybrid of our "Run N' Gun" days. That's the best way to bring back excitement and a true culture change to this franchise.

So you are saying the Suns should ask for the pick swap, to move down because they think there will be a better player at a later pick?

Not at all man. And honestly, I'd prefer Toppin or Okungwu, rather than to trade back ( *unless we get additional quality assets, or picks and playets of positional need). But to be clear, With Gordon's recent statistical improvement and production, I strongly believe that will be there sticking point in a possible deal. Especially with consideration to Oubres' meniscus injury. And I really do like Gordon's potential in an open court style of play that benefits his athleticism and explosiveness. But again, I'm just suggesting that will likely be their ultimatum in a potential deal. But also, We may likely accept those terms, IF we feel that in this draft, There's not a better, more ready to contribute option where we will be drafting.

So offer Oubre and Okobo for Gordon, but if they want more, offer a pick swap is what you are saying?

[The Real Dalic]

Gordon would fit well in many teams but if Ayton is to be maximised, Gordon I believe is not a good fit.... need a finisher and spotter offensively next to Ayton and someone who is quick enough to cover the the perimeter and the paint when Ayton gets drawn out to the perimeter.

Magic fan here. You're right that AG may not be the best fit in terms of shooting. But he's been around the 40's-50's from 3's in February and is looking decent with his shot after a really rough start where he had a nagging injury.

As far as defense goes, you really don't have to worry about him there. He's an elite defender that can defend both the perimeter and the paint.

I really do believe he could flourish in a quicker pace with an established star and great PG who can throw lobs and get the ball to him in his spots under the basket. I really believe either you guys or the Nets will end up with AG. I personally hope it's you guys because I don't like the Nets too much.

[sunskerr]

Rubio/Ayton/Gordon is a disaster offensively waiting to happen imo. The only way you could convince me to go after Gordon would be if he or Ayton would be guaranteed to start knocking down threes, or we did something like trade Ayton and run Gordon at the 5 or acquire a starting center who can knock down 2 threes per game, but that latter scenario is like never going to happen and seems kind of silly to do.

Here's a fun scenario though, although it isn't serious at all:

somehow trade for Simmons (maybe flip Oubre lol), acquire Gordon, flip Ayton for a 3&D wing/forward of equivalent talent/value.

Simmons
Booker
Bridges
hypothetical
Gordon

The Rockets model with Simmons as Russ but with far better defenders, and much better size and rebounding. You can still switch on every play. Booker is the only defensive hole but all the other defenders seem like they could cover him. Trade his ass for a package if it doesn't work. But in this scenario he plays off ball more to his strength, which Harden seems to not do so spectacularly. This lineup could definitely be a contender if Book improves to league average defensively, which, after taking the ball out of his hands, should be possible since he could focus on defense more. We do less iso than the rockets, however, and look to push push push.

Bonus points for the team also being revival of the SSOL years.

[Saberestar]

Gordon would fit well in many teams but if Ayton is to be maximised, Gordon I believe is not a good fit.... need a finisher and spotter offensively next to Ayton and someone who is quick enough to cover the the perimeter and the paint when Ayton gets drawn out to the perimeter.

Magic fan here. You're right that AG may not be the best fit in terms of shooting. But he's been around the 40's-50's from 3's in February and is looking decent with his shot after a really rough start where he had a nagging injury.

As far as defense goes, you really don't have to worry about him there. He's an elite defender that can defend both the perimeter and the paint.

I really do believe he could flourish in a quicker pace with an established star and great PG who can throw lobs and get the ball to him in his spots under the basket. I really believe either you guys or the Nets will end up with AG. I personally hope it's you guys because I don't like the Nets too much.

Do you think that Oubre for A. Gordon is a fair trade for both sides?

[Ghost of Kleine]

So you are saying the Suns should ask for the pick swap, to move down because they think there will be a better player at a later pick?

Not at all man. And honestly, I'd prefer Toppin or Okungwu, rather than to trade back ( *unless we get additional quality assets, or picks and playets of positional need). But to be clear, With Gordon's recent statistical improvement and production, I strongly believe that will be there sticking point in a possible deal. Especially with consideration to Oubres' meniscus injury. And I really do like Gordon's potential in an open court style of play that benefits his athleticism and explosiveness. But again, I'm just suggesting that will likely be their ultimatum in a potential deal. But also, We may likely accept those terms, IF we feel that in this draft, There's not a better, more ready to contribute option where we will be drafting.

So offer Oubre and Okobo for Gordon, but if they want more, offer a pick swap is what you are saying?

Depends upon where we land. I really prefer Toppin personally. But If he's off the board, Or IF the front office doesn't have him high on their board, Then they might prefer Gordon. Again, IF Toppin IS GONE , And a pick swap is what it ultimately takes to get a deal done, Then Yes, I would begrudgingly do it. But I'd aldo push for another piece coming back if possible too.

Maybe Oubre/ Okobo/ Pick swap for Gordon/ their 2nd round pick (# 43)??? Could be used on Grant Riller or Payton Pritchard, Or Jared Butler perhaps. But I wouldn't openly offet it. I'd save it as a last ditch option to get the deal done ( last offer).

[TheLogician]

We don't have Tyler Johnson's contract now so it sounds like a dead trade to me.

[The Real Dalic]

Gordon would fit well in many teams but if Ayton is to be maximised, Gordon I believe is not a good fit.... need a finisher and spotter offensively next to Ayton and someone who is quick enough to cover the the perimeter and the paint when Ayton gets drawn out to the perimeter.

Magic fan here. You're right that AG may not be the best fit in terms of shooting. But he's been around the 40's-50's from 3's in February and is looking decent with his shot after a really rough start where he had a nagging injury.

As far as defense goes, you really don't have to worry about him there. He's an elite defender that can defend both the perimeter and the paint.

I really do believe he could flourish in a quicker pace with an established star and great PG who can throw lobs and get the ball to him in his spots under the basket. I really believe either you guys or the Nets will end up with AG. I personally hope it's you guys because I don't like the Nets too much.

Do you think that Oubre for A. Gordon is a fair trade for both sides?

I do. I think he fits better with us than AG and he's shown to be a good young player that can continue improving. I also think AG would breakout with the Suns. He could be a nice 3rd-4th option for a team.

[WeekapaugGroove]

We don't have Tyler Johnson's contract now so it sounds like a dead trade to me.

Not really, the suns will have enough cap space with Johnson and others coming off the books they could do it and absorb a contract like Gordon's into that.

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[TheLogician]

We don't have Tyler Johnson's contract now so it sounds like a dead trade to me.

Not really, the suns will have enough cap space with Johnson and others coming off the books they could do it and absorb a contract like Gordon's into that.

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I see. Yeah, I do not want Oubre and Gordon on the books. That is a lot of non-shooters making a lot of money.

[RiRuHoops]

Rubio/Ayton/Gordon is a disaster offensively waiting to happen imo. The only way you could convince me to go after Gordon would be if he or Ayton would be guaranteed to start knocking down threes, or we did something like trade Ayton and run Gordon at the 5 or acquire a starting center who can knock down 2 threes per game, but that latter scenario is like never going to happen and seems kind of silly to do.

Here's a fun scenario though, although it isn't serious at all:

somehow trade for Simmons (maybe flip Oubre lol), acquire Gordon, flip Ayton for a 3&D wing/forward of equivalent talent/value.

Simmons
Booker
Bridges
hypothetical
Gordon

The Rockets model with Simmons as Russ but with far better defenders, and much better size and rebounding. You can still switch on every play. Booker is the only defensive hole but all the other defenders seem like they could cover him. Trade his ass for a package if it doesn't work. But in this scenario he plays off ball more to his strength, which Harden seems to not do so spectacularly. This lineup could definitely be a contender if Book improves to league average defensively, which, after taking the ball out of his hands, should be possible since he could focus on defense more. We do less iso than the rockets, however, and look to push push push.

Bonus points for the team also being revival of the SSOL years.

this whole post is LOL

[TeamTragic]

Seriously? Gordon?

[jcsunsfan]

Just sign AD and draft Haliburton. Then we're good.

Ha.

[sunskerr]

Rubio/Ayton/Gordon is a disaster offensively waiting to happen imo. The only way you could convince me to go after Gordon would be if he or Ayton would be guaranteed to start knocking down threes, or we did something like trade Ayton and run Gordon at the 5 or acquire a starting center who can knock down 2 threes per game, but that latter scenario is like never going to happen and seems kind of silly to do.

Here's a fun scenario though, although it isn't serious at all:

somehow trade for Simmons (maybe flip Oubre lol), acquire Gordon, flip Ayton for a 3&D wing/forward of equivalent talent/value.

Simmons
Booker
Bridges
hypothetical
Gordon

The Rockets model with Simmons as Russ but with far better defenders, and much better size and rebounding. You can still switch on every play. Booker is the only defensive hole but all the other defenders seem like they could cover him. Trade his ass for a package if it doesn't work. But in this scenario he plays off ball more to his strength, which Harden seems to not do so spectacularly. This lineup could definitely be a contender if Book improves to league average defensively, which, after taking the ball out of his hands, should be possible since he could focus on defense more. We do less iso than the rockets, however, and look to push push push.

Bonus points for the team also being revival of the SSOL years.

this whole post is LOL

It’s almost like you have poor reading skills and didn’t understand the part where I said it would never happen/is not a serious scenario.

[KLEON]

Skal Labissiere needs to be on this team next season. Massively underrated player

[DirtyDez]

Gordon would be nice if Kelly would commit to a 6th-man role but in a contract year I could see it being an issue. If we could get him for Cam/pick I’d Clockwork Orange his eyes open and force him to watch Shawn highlights.

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[KLEON]

Gordon would be nice if Kelly would commit to a 6th-man role but in a contract year I could see it being an issue. If we could get him for Cam/pick I’d Clockwork Orange his eyes open and force him to watch Shawn highlights.

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Bridges can be our Matrix and I'm not trading Cam. The man has the potential to be another Klay