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Post#641 » by ChaosHamster » Mon Mar 9, 2020 3:11 pm

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I didn’t catch the game..... any particular reason he played so bad?


Shot a ton of post-up mid-rangers Carlisle was saying are a bad play and they are not gonna be running them. :lol:

But Porzingis was so hot lately, and he loves those shots, so they just gave them to him. And it went terrible. It was really reminiscent of NY January/February Porzingis. Looked a bit slow, majority of the shots were way short and just overall he didn't look as active.

He did roll his ankle last game and was questionable for tonight, so maybe thats the issue. In NY, even the slightest injury always threw him off his game, and he needed a couple to get back, so maybe it what happened.

Gonna be interesting to see what Carlisle does next game. How many contested mid-rangers will KP shoot. :lol:
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Post#642 » by ctorres » Mon Mar 9, 2020 7:44 pm

knicks94 wrote:Can't understand why the Spurs have sucked this season. LMA and Derozen have been putting up decent numbers and Popovich has always gotten the best out of the rosters he's been given. If they were going to be this underperforming they should have tanked for Edwards the way they did for Duncan years ago.


DeRozan can't shoot threes and he doesn't do enough to compensate for that like Westbrook does.
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Post#643 » by Capn'O » Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:38 pm

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I didn’t catch the game..... any particular reason he played so bad?


Shot a ton of post-up mid-rangers Carlisle was saying are a bad play and they are not gonna be running them. :lol:

But Porzingis was so hot lately, and he loves those shots, so they just gave them to him. And it went terrible. It was really reminiscent of NY January/February Porzingis. Looked a bit slow, majority of the shots were way short and just overall he didn't look as active.

He did roll his ankle last game and was questionable for tonight, so maybe thats the issue. In NY, even the slightest injury always threw him off his game, and he needed a couple to get back, so maybe it what happened.

Gonna be interesting to see what Carlisle does next game. How many contested mid-rangers will KP shoot. :lol:


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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#644 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:40 am

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Maybe I could have communicated better/given better suggestion. Ain't anything about the posting. It's more about the short-term thinking. We have people popping in every time a certain player has a bad game or good game, saying, BUST or HOF. I'm just pointing out that it's not really convincing evidence.

As the saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Or maybe the NBA equivalent, even a Melo iso goes in sometimes.
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Post#645 » by Richard4444 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:12 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Mike D'anphony trying to destroy the game of basketball with no big men. Working very well so far.
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If everyone plays the same way, people complain.

If anyone try to play differently people also complain.

Thats a valid try playing with extreme small ball lineups. Houston would not win the title anyway playing like every other team. They dont have any depth.

We played with 4 Bigs in the same lineup some games. This doesnt work well either.
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Post#646 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:00 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Mike D'anphony trying to destroy the game of basketball with no big men. Working very well so far.
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If everyone plays the same way, people complain.

If anyone try to play differently people also complain.

Thats a valid try playing with extreme small ball lineups. Houston would not win the title anyway playing like every other team. They dont have any depth.

We played with 4 Bigs in the same lineup some games. This doesnt work well either.

Yup. Especially when you have Westbrook who doesn't offer much to a traditional sort of lineup. He's clearly being maximized that way and they are very physical. I can understand what they're doing. They should go after bigger shooters though - just like everybody. So consequently, like for the Knicks, Jerami Grant or Bertans types are the way to go for Houston.
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Post#647 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:08 am

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knicks94 wrote:Can't understand why the Spurs have sucked this season. LMA and Derozen have been putting up decent numbers and Popovich has always gotten the best out of the rosters he's been given. If they were going to be this underperforming they should have tanked for Edwards the way they did for Duncan years ago.


DeRozan can't shoot threes and he doesn't do enough to compensate for that like Westbrook does.

Speaking of the two, I think I'd play DeRozan at PG in the modern NBA. Him bringing the ball up the floor allows for immediate PnR pressure and doesn't compromise spacing so much. It allows you to play very big lineups and also to post him up more often after forcing switches. DeRozan is extremely skilled, so don't write him off.
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Post#648 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:46 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Mike D'anphony trying to destroy the game of basketball with no big men. Working very well so far.
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If everyone plays the same way, people complain.

If anyone try to play differently people also complain.

Thats a valid try playing with extreme small ball lineups. Houston would not win the title anyway playing like every other team. They dont have any depth.

We played with 4 Bigs in the same lineup some games. This doesnt work well either.

Houston is much worse with this small ball crap. And I don’t know who you’re referring to about complaining. I don’t care if someone plays differently. I loved Golden state before they got KD. They played different from most teams.

In my opinion I think Mike D’anphony is taking small ball to the extreme level by diminishing the use of big men and I don’t think it will work out for them. If they struggling against teams like us in the regular season then just imagine what happens in the playoffs against much better teams when the game is slowed down.
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Post#649 » by mpharris36 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:11 pm

what mike dantoni doesn't realize is that having 4 guys outside the paint is great for floor spacing but if there is no roll threat (like capela was) the defense really doesn't have to cheat off 3 point shooters to defend the lob.

The lob (when you have a good roller) is so difficult to defend without having to cheat off 3 point shooters so right now people simply just stick to there 3 point shooters and just let Harden beat them from 3. If Harden is on he will beat you but more often then not harden isn't that knock down 3 point shooter and neither is Westbrook to have teams change up the defense.

When Harden was driving with Capela rolling they had to worry about the lob which is no longer something teams have to worry about which actually makes them easier to guard.

this also doesn't even take into account defense and rebounding which they get killed on every night.
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Post#650 » by Esq-4 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:35 pm

So what you are all saying is Westbrook for Randle to alive their size issue and our PG issue?

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Post#651 » by god shammgod » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:what mike dantoni doesn't realize is that having 4 guys outside the paint is great for floor spacing but if there is no roll threat (like capela was) the defense really doesn't have to cheat off 3 point shooters to defend the lob.

The lob (when you have a good roller) is so difficult to defend without having to cheat off 3 point shooters so right now people simply just stick to there 3 point shooters and just let Harden beat them from 3. If Harden is on he will beat you but more often then not harden isn't that knock down 3 point shooter and neither is Westbrook to have teams change up the defense.

When Harden was driving with Capela rolling they had to worry about the lob which is no longer something teams have to worry about which actually makes them easier to guard.

this also doesn't even take into account defense and rebounding which they get killed on every night.


i think it really wasn't something he wanted to do. westbrook was failing there and he couldn't have 2 non shooting threats out there in westbrook and capela and trading capela was the only solution he could come up with to make westbrook work. if he could have found a quick center or even tall power forward who could shoot 3s. he'd play him.
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Re: Around the NBA - All Star Weekend and beyond 

Post#652 » by mpharris36 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:20 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:what mike dantoni doesn't realize is that having 4 guys outside the paint is great for floor spacing but if there is no roll threat (like capela was) the defense really doesn't have to cheat off 3 point shooters to defend the lob.

The lob (when you have a good roller) is so difficult to defend without having to cheat off 3 point shooters so right now people simply just stick to there 3 point shooters and just let Harden beat them from 3. If Harden is on he will beat you but more often then not harden isn't that knock down 3 point shooter and neither is Westbrook to have teams change up the defense.

When Harden was driving with Capela rolling they had to worry about the lob which is no longer something teams have to worry about which actually makes them easier to guard.

this also doesn't even take into account defense and rebounding which they get killed on every night.


i think it really wasn't something he wanted to do. westbrook was failing there and he couldn't have 2 non shooting threats out there in westbrook and capela and trading capela was the only solution he could come up with to make westbrook work. if he could have found a quick center or even tall power forward who could shoot 3s. he'd play him.


so what your saying is he wants KP :lol:
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Post#653 » by god shammgod » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:31 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:what mike dantoni doesn't realize is that having 4 guys outside the paint is great for floor spacing but if there is no roll threat (like capela was) the defense really doesn't have to cheat off 3 point shooters to defend the lob.

The lob (when you have a good roller) is so difficult to defend without having to cheat off 3 point shooters so right now people simply just stick to there 3 point shooters and just let Harden beat them from 3. If Harden is on he will beat you but more often then not harden isn't that knock down 3 point shooter and neither is Westbrook to have teams change up the defense.

When Harden was driving with Capela rolling they had to worry about the lob which is no longer something teams have to worry about which actually makes them easier to guard.

this also doesn't even take into account defense and rebounding which they get killed on every night.


i think it really wasn't something he wanted to do. westbrook was failing there and he couldn't have 2 non shooting threats out there in westbrook and capela and trading capela was the only solution he could come up with to make westbrook work. if he could have found a quick center or even tall power forward who could shoot 3s. he'd play him.


so what your saying is he wants KP :lol:


i'm sure he wouldn't mind him. he would never get to leave the 3 point line though.
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Post#654 » by Phish Tank » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:14 am

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Post#655 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:24 am

Brickstaps porzingis back at it again. Glad we traded that bum
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Post#656 » by DOLPHIN2020 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:32 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Brickstaps porzingis back at it again. Glad we traded that bum
here come the bipolar fans, hate him one day, love him the next
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Post#657 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:42 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Brickstaps porzingis back at it again. Glad we traded that bum
here come the bipolar fans, hate him one day, love him the next

Not me. I am consistent. I was not crying like everyone else when he went on a lil hot streak. The brickstaps we always know is back.
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Post#658 » by WargamesX » Wed Mar 11, 2020 4:16 am

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Post#659 » by eagle54 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:19 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Brickstaps porzingis back at it again. Glad we traded that bum
here come the bipolar fans, hate him one day, love him the next

Not me. I am consistent. I was not crying like everyone else when he went on a lil hot streak. The brickstaps we always know is back.

Yeah you are consistent but it's funny to see your hate about Porzingis and at the opposite your love about randle when both have similar stats. :D
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Post#660 » by digitaldropoff » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:15 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Brickstaps porzingis back at it again. Glad we traded that bum


He still looks better than the corpse that is Dennis Smith Jr :lol:

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