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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#321 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:15 am

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clyde21 wrote:i fail to see a huge difference between Deni and Bolmaro tbh, i have them ranked essentially identical.

why do people like Deni so much more?


I can’t speak for everyone else, but I personally think that Deni is taller and stronger as well as longer than Bolmaro. I also think his vertical is better just using the eye test. I think he just sees the court better which is evidenced by some of his awesome timing on his passes. I think he’s a superior rebounder and shooter as well.

While Bolmaro has a wider array of moves, I just don’t think he’s a great shooter or that his game is going to translate to the NBA as well as Avidja’s will. Avidja can be a special shooter. I do think that Bolmaro does have a chance to become a Ginobili type with work. He can definitely pass and is crafty around the basket and has nice touch, but his outside shooting needs work and I don’t think he has the same burst on his drives as Avidja.

Here’s a good game that showcases Avidja’s potential:



i get it, but I still don't see a huge variance between them as prospects, yea Deni is taller but I don't think it's really functional length or height, for his game it doesn't really matter whether he's 6-6 or 6-9, both are gonna play the same role IMO eventually, tho I do kinda like Bolmaro a little more defensively
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#322 » by getrichordie » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:16 am

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getrichordie wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i fail to see a huge difference between Deni and Bolmaro tbh, i have them ranked essentially identical.

why do people like Deni so much more?


I can’t speak for everyone else, but I personally think that Deni is taller and stronger as well as longer than Bolmaro. I also think his vertical is better just using the eye test. I think he just sees the court better which is evidenced by some of his awesome timing on his passes. I think he’s a superior rebounder and shooter as well.

While Bolmaro has a wider array of moves, I just don’t think he’s a great shooter or that his game is going to translate to the NBA as well as Avidja’s will. Avidja can be a special shooter. I do think that Bolmaro does have a chance to become a Ginobili type with work. He can definitely pass and is crafty around the basket and has nice touch, but his outside shooting needs work and I don’t think he has the same burst on his drives as Avidja.

Here’s a good game that showcases Avidja’s potential:



i get it, but I still don't see a huge variance between them as prospects, yea Deni is taller but I don't think it's really functional length or height, for his game it doesn't really matter whether he's 6-6 or 6-9, both are gonna play the same role IMO eventually, tho I do kinda like Bolmaro a little more defensively


Interesting. I certainly have seen plays where he is pesky but I’ve seen far more tape of Deni providing weak side help or blocking shots at the rim.

Deni’s height is certainly more functional from a passing, blocking and shooting standpoint in my mind. I’d be shocked if Deni didn’t register a higher reach, height, and wingspan than Bolmaro.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#323 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:10 pm

i like Patrick Williams over Vassell, not sure if Williams is gonna declare tho, I'd probably put Williams in my t2 if he does
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Post#324 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:23 pm

How do you all feel about Immanuel Quickley? I feel like he's flying under the radar.
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Post#325 » by getrichordie » Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:02 am

Hoopz Afrik wrote:How do you all feel about Immanuel Quickley? I feel like he's flying under the radar.


I'm in love with Quickley. He just needs to get stronger. He needs to add about 10-15 lbs to his frame. I was really high on him at first, but I've got him going somewhere at the end of the 1st if he declares...

How does everyone feel about Dylan Smith (Arizona)? I can see him going early-ish in the 2nd round. He just makes plays and gives good effort on offense and defense. Showed a lot of resilience after his nose got busted by Stewart. Kid's shooting form looks good. Has NBA range and NBA size for a 2. Could probably play some 3 in a pinch. Athletic enough. Seems like he could be a glue guy.

Also, Stewart is just a beast. He got in foul trouble, but I watched the game and the referees **** up hard. He didn't even come close to fouling on 2 of the calls which sent him to the bench and gave Arizona the upper hand. And how about McDaniels? After Stewart sat, he got a little more aggressive and hit a nice in-stride 3 after running around a nice screen set by the Huskies' back up center. McDaniels showed some defensive hustle too. Kid just oozes potential. Needs a few years, but can't wait to see what that looks like.
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Post#326 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:12 am

Opinions on Sam Merrill? He looks like a baller, BUT he will be 24 years old by the draft so that's pretty bad...

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Incredible TS% at .625 (.624 for his 4 year average), and eFG% at .566 (.575 for his 4 year average)
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Post#327 » by getrichordie » Thu Mar 12, 2020 4:14 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Opinions on Sam Merrill? He looks like a baller, BUT he will be 24 years old by the draft so that's pretty bad...

20/4/4 on 46/41/89 shooting

Incredible TS% at .625 (.624 for his 4 year average), and eFG% at .566 (.575 for his 4 year average)


Way to rigid and is a huge liability on defense, in my mind.
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Post#328 » by clyde21 » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:29 am

Antman with 6 points in 40 minutes, 2-13 from the field and 1-9 from 3, I don't know what to do with this guy, I still believe in the raw talent but man he has some real stinkers
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Post#329 » by getrichordie » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:35 am

I think we are collectively sleeping on Joel Ayayi. He could end up being the best point in the draft when it’s all said and done. He has all the tools to be a better version of Reggie Jackson in my mind. Good feel for the game. Great size for the point. Has shown NBA range. Plays the passing lanes really well. Can finish in traffic using his long arms. Just wait until he adds another 10-15lbs to his lengthy frame. Really like his game and his ability to disrupt passes. I think he can guard 1-3.
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Post#330 » by King Ken » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:47 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Opinions on Sam Merrill? He looks like a baller, BUT he will be 24 years old by the draft so that's pretty bad...

20/4/4 on 46/41/89 shooting

Incredible TS% at .625 (.624 for his 4 year average), and eFG% at .566 (.575 for his 4 year average)

He's a good player.
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Post#331 » by Ruzious » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:30 pm

clyde21 wrote:i like Patrick Williams over Vassell, not sure if Williams is gonna declare tho, I'd probably put Williams in my t2 if he does

Williams is a real talent, but he's a boom or bust type right now, and I think he'd most likely bust if he came out this year because he's so raw.
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Post#332 » by Ruzious » Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:46 pm

Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.
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Post#333 » by King Ken » Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:28 pm

Ruzious wrote:Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.

God bless everyone here and those who lurk. Be careful and protect yourself emotionally, financially, and most important, spiritually.
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Post#334 » by Mark_83 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:21 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.

God bless everyone here and those who lurk. Be careful and protect yourself emotionally, financially, and most important, spiritually.

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Post#335 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:10 pm

Ruzious wrote:Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.

That's a nice sentiment...but tbh you're better off not going near them because you could be a carrier or it could be on the food package etc.
If you do out of necessity make sure it's enough they won't need you to visit again for a month.
The snail pace of available test kits worldwide now and especially in USA has private sector aka hospitals private labs being highly discriminatory meaning if you are not obviously sick to the point of needing hospitalization at least for the most part so far...you can't get tested.
A deep loud dry cough , inability to keep down any solid food including shakes that aren't watered down , obvious pain so bad you can't sleep without kidney damaging doses of codeine etc are expected as well which is why if you already have breathing issues like most 80 year olds this thing can kill you easily.
People thinking it's mild when you get it at a young age because there are small death % so far might be ignoring that most of those reports came from places that had mandatory quarantine
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Post#336 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:27 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.

That's a nice sentiment...but tbh you're better off not going near them because you could be a carrier or it could be on the food package etc.
If you do out of necessity make sure it's enough they won't need you to visit again for a month.
The snail pace of available test kits worldwide now and especially in USA has private sector aka hospitals private labs being highly discriminatory meaning if you are not obviously sick to the point of needing hospitalization at least for the most part so far...you can't get tested.
A deep loud dry cough , inability to keep down any solid food including shakes that aren't watered down , obvious pain so bad you can't sleep without kidney damaging doses of codeine etc are expected as well which is why if you already have breathing issues like most 80 year olds this thing can kill you easily.
People thinking it's mild when you get it at a young age because there are small death % so far might be ignoring that most of those reports came from places that had mandatory quarantine

If they go to the grocery store, there's probably at least a 100 times more opportunities for them to catch the virus. You can use the phone and drop the groceries off at their door.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft II 

Post#337 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:39 pm

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Stillwater wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Guys, maybe this isn't the place but stay safe and do something nice like volunteer to do grocery shopping for an old relative or neighbor.

That's a nice sentiment...but tbh you're better off not going near them because you could be a carrier or it could be on the food package etc.
If you do out of necessity make sure it's enough they won't need you to visit again for a month.
The snail pace of available test kits worldwide now and especially in USA has private sector aka hospitals private labs being highly discriminatory meaning if you are not obviously sick to the point of needing hospitalization at least for the most part so far...you can't get tested.
A deep loud dry cough , inability to keep down any solid food including shakes that aren't watered down , obvious pain so bad you can't sleep without kidney damaging doses of codeine etc are expected as well which is why if you already have breathing issues like most 80 year olds this thing can kill you easily.
People thinking it's mild when you get it at a young age because there are small death % so far might be ignoring that most of those reports came from places that had mandatory quarantine

If they go to the grocery store, there's probably at least a 100 times more opportunities for them to catch the virus. You can use the phone and drop the groceries off at their door.
yep there are seemingly smarter ways to take your self out of the equation if you trust delivery services aren't carriers.and yes elderly cannot go to public places. This thing is much much worse than people seem to get.
I commend your efforts to help those in need, it just can't be done without extreme caution.

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Post#338 » by clyde21 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:35 pm

no NBA imma be watching more and more film of prospects

new TIER 1

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Post#339 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 4:51 pm

I'm drafting Tillie in the lottery. Now, time to wait for someone to tell me that I'm crazy for thinking he's a lottery pick.
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Post#340 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:14 pm

Feel_the_Heat15 wrote:I'm drafting Tillie in the lottery. Now, time to wait for someone to tell me that I'm crazy for thinking he's a lottery pick.

Is this the same guy who has been injured every season he's been in college?
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