Should Gobert get fined or disciplined

[rtiff68]

Different topic posts and social media people have tried to play the “well maybe Mitchell gave it to him” game. It completely dismisses the point that no one is blaming Gobert FOR GETTING SICK and are rightfully ripping him for being irresponsible and going out of his way to be difficult. People are making jokes but anyone going around touching others or acting out to dismiss the virus as a whole are ****. Rudy was of been a jerk regardless if he got sick or not it just makes him a sick jerk for karma biting him.

Gobert sympathy has been next level it’s barely been a full day and people are looking for excuses. Trying to put blame on Mitchell is gross and the push to change the narrative that Gobert didn’t know better is no better

This is a classic case of someone seeing what they want to see as opposed to what is actually there.

The entire reason some people in this thread have the “he apologized, move on” stance is because Gobert is getting KILLED everywhere— treated like the devil incarnate who singlehandedly shut down the NBA.

Mitchell has been overwhelmingly a sympathetic character in all of this (as he should be).

I literally have no idea what you’re talking about. The fact that you brought “outrage over racism” into this out of absolute nowhere means that you’re either seeing things you want to see, or you’re trolling.

This is putting the importance of social media over reality. THIS topic is about should Rudy Gobert be fined or suspended for HIS ACTIONS that were not only blatant but happen on multiple occasions at work that put himself and teammates at risk. It doesn’t matter if he was sick or not if someone else got sick he would of been used as an example of what not to do with his dismissive actions.


You actually think he’s had enough because of some damn memes and people holding him accountable online!?! Gobert getting sick was irony but he should be fined and may be suspended to send a message about being a professional during the middle of a world wide issue.

People act like a day to day person wouldn’t be fired for the stuff he pulled but a fine is out of line because of trolling online?

People this morning and yesterday were asking if Mitchell gave it to him which is insane. Only reason it might stop will because both players make a statement and the focus is completely on Gobert being unprofessional instead of who got who sick.

If not colorism then Gobert just has some hardcore followers that would even question Mitchell than let this man take responsibility

Here is a link to a CNN article about the backlash Gobert is getting for his mistake. Nothing negative whatsoever about Mitchell or people crapping on Mitchell...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/12/sport/rudy-gobert-coronavirus-prank-backlash-spt-intl/index.html

Here is a link to a Fox News article reporting the exact thing...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox40.com/sports/basketball/amid-covid-19-outbreak-nba-star-rudy-gobert-faces-backlash-for-prank/amp/

If CNN and Fox News are in lockstep about what’s happening— that Gobert is getting backlash and Mitchell is deservedly not— then you can pretty much guarantee it’s an accurate litmus test. Keep in mind, they’re agreeing on these things smack dab in the middle of one of the most divisive and contentious elections in our nation’s history.

You’re tripping, dude.

[KqWIN]

I can imagine being those reporters. They were complaining about having to stand away from Rudy. At that time, they only cared that their access was being restricted. Look back at what they were saying at the time.

Rudy was showing the reporters that he was with them. With hindsight, yes everyone was not taking it seriously. But these gross misinterpretations of the situation and manufactured malicious intent causes real damage.

Many of us are in a situation just like Rudy is. We have the virus but are unaware. We just don’t have him as an example. Instead of making villains out of those infected, use them as an example of how we can be better. Like I said, there many who have the virus and are unaware.

If you’re going to go after anyone, go after those who are responsible for our lack of testing. People are going to keep spreading the virus if they don’t know they have it.

The touching microphones is so trivial in the first place. Gobert was playing basketball games, breathing, sweating, and making contact with people without knowing he was infected. That’s the situation we have to prevent, because it can happen to any of us. Unless you’re self quarantined with no symptoms at all, you are at risk of doing the same as Gobert.

Pathetic. Stop equating your own ignorance and lack of social responsibility to those who are cautious since COVID-19 broke out.

I’m sorry. I have gone to work. I’ve touched a public doorknob. I’ve made physical contact with loved ones. And no, I have not had single symptom.

We can either use this moment to sit on a high horse and look down on people, or we can recognize how easy it for someone to transmit a virus they have no idea they have.

Have you yourself self quarantined this entire time? When did you start? If you caught it a week ago, how many people have you put at risk? As far as I’m concerned, if you haven’t self quarantined, you are as guilty as Gobert. Anyone is capable of spreading a virus they don’t know they have.

But sure, continue to sit on a high horse and pretend that you are beyond spreading something you don’t know you have. Pretend that you have demonized every coronovirus joke for weeks. Pretend that this isn’t something that could have easily happened to you if you were infected a week ago.

That’s the attitude that’s going to help this situation. Yup.

[skones]

We've got 48 morons and counting in the poll.

Gobert was CERTAINLY the ONLY ONE making jokes about COVID-19. Nobody on your facebook feed was. Nobody on your twitter feed was. He was alone, and the most reckless.

Show of hands here who knows, at this moment, for absolute CERTAIN that they aren't asymptomatic, carrying the virus, and infecting others? Very few? That's what I thought.

[Spens1]

if for nothing else, for sheer stupidity. quick $25k fine. Why mock the general measures and hygiene measures taken thus far to combat this.

Though him probably feeling like a dumbass is bad enough.

[GSP]

He should absolutely be fined no question

[Spens1]

I don't mind a fine at all, the NBA fines dudes all the time and for worse reason (and Gobert is absolutely loaded, I feel no pain for a multi-millionaire paying a fine). Past a fine and it would be a disproportionate penalty imo.

This, people get fined for way less.

Cuban gets fined like 150k for laughing as it is.

[bluemj32]

One year suspension , 5 million fine. At minimum . He acted in a reckless manner and needs to be held accountable. The NBA told the players the precautions , he knew about the precautions, and ignored them. He must be held liable.

I'm pretty sure he want the only athlete who acted immature and reckless. He just so happened to catch it and it now it's a horrible/unfortunate look.

The backlash and humiliation he is enduring now is enough.

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[KrAzY3]

First off, let's not misplace the blame. This is China's fault. It isn't just that it originated there, that's not the real issue, it's that China covered it up for around a month, punishing people for talking about it. By the time China opened up about it, it was already spreading beyond China. Had China simply allowed the public to be fully aware of this in time, it might have been contained and in the least the world would have been one month ahead in their preparations and defenses against it. So, we're at this point because China believes they have a right to censor anything that makes them look bad, even if it's important news about a spreading virus.

Having said that, this isn't just Gobert touching a mic. He reportedly behaved recklessly in the locker room as well, and it's no surprise a teammate has it now as well. It is pretty easy to conclude those two situations aren't isolated either, Gobert looks like the poster boy for how something like this spreads. Most of us know to be more careful than usual, and he's going around acting like an idiot and apparently spreading it in the process. It's probably how he caught it, it's probably why his teammate has it. This is how things like this spread! Individuals who don't follow basic protocols can cause major issues.

Now, I wouldn't say he should have severe punishment, but I'd support sending some sort of a message. If something like this ever happens again, the last thing you want is your players behaving like Gobert. Heck, you don't want anyone behaving like that. I have conversations with my wife about why she gets sick more often than I, and it's usually things where she's just not being careful. Licks her finger after eating, or touches her food without washing her hands. That's not deliberate though, Gobert did some deliberate stuff.

[carlquincy]

I can imagine being those reporters. They were complaining about having to stand away from Rudy. At that time, they only cared that their access was being restricted. Look back at what they were saying at the time.

Rudy was showing the reporters that he was with them. With hindsight, yes everyone was not taking it seriously. But these gross misinterpretations of the situation and manufactured malicious intent causes real damage.

Many of us are in a situation just like Rudy is. We have the virus but are unaware. We just don’t have him as an example. Instead of making villains out of those infected, use them as an example of how we can be better. Like I said, there many who have the virus and are unaware.

If you’re going to go after anyone, go after those who are responsible for our lack of testing. People are going to keep spreading the virus if they don’t know they have it.

The touching microphones is so trivial in the first place. Gobert was playing basketball games, breathing, sweating, and making contact with people without knowing he was infected. That’s the situation we have to prevent, because it can happen to any of us. Unless you’re self quarantined with no symptoms at all, you are at risk of doing the same as Gobert.

Pathetic. Stop equating your own ignorance and lack of social responsibility to those who are cautious since COVID-19 broke out.

I’m sorry. I have gone to work. I’ve touched a public doorknob. I’ve made physical contact with loved ones. And no, I have not had single symptom.

We can either use this moment to sit on a high horse and look down on people, or we can recognize how easy it for someone to transmit a virus they have no idea they have.

Have you yourself self quarantined this entire time? When did you start? If you caught it a week ago, how many people have you put at risk? As far as I’m concerned, if you haven’t self quarantined, you are as guilty as Gobert. Anyone is capable of spreading a virus they don’t know they have.

But sure, continue to sit on a high horse and pretend that you are beyond spreading something you don’t know you have. Pretend that you have demonized every coronovirus joke for weeks. Pretend that this isn’t something that could have easily happened to you if you were infected a week ago.

That’s the attitude that’s going to help this situation. Yup.

You are not a troll poster, and I'm gonna reply you once and proper.

Sitting on a high horse and looking down at people is what Gobert did. This virus is so contagious and its been known globally for at least a month. Gobert should exercise some semblance of social responsibility, and not do what he did.

As a fan of his, you should hold him accountable instead of blindly defending him.

[TheNewEra]

We've got 48 morons and counting in the poll.

Gobert was CERTAINLY the ONLY ONE making jokes about COVID-19. Nobody on your facebook feed was. Nobody on your twitter feed was. He was alone, and the most reckless.

Show of hands here who knows, at this moment, for absolute CERTAIN that they aren't asymptomatic, carrying the virus, and infecting others? Very few? That's what I thought.

Screw it then go to work or school and start touching other people and their stuff recklessly. See what happens some of you are not getting it that there is a major difference between online joking and physically going out of your way to make people uncomfortable

[TheNewEra]

This is a classic case of someone seeing what they want to see as opposed to what is actually there.

The entire reason some people in this thread have the “he apologized, move on” stance is because Gobert is getting KILLED everywhere— treated like the devil incarnate who singlehandedly shut down the NBA.

Mitchell has been overwhelmingly a sympathetic character in all of this (as he should be).

I literally have no idea what you’re talking about. The fact that you brought “outrage over racism” into this out of absolute nowhere means that you’re either seeing things you want to see, or you’re trolling.

This is putting the importance of social media over reality. THIS topic is about should Rudy Gobert be fined or suspended for HIS ACTIONS that were not only blatant but happen on multiple occasions at work that put himself and teammates at risk. It doesn’t matter if he was sick or not if someone else got sick he would of been used as an example of what not to do with his dismissive actions.


You actually think he’s had enough because of some damn memes and people holding him accountable online!?! Gobert getting sick was irony but he should be fined and may be suspended to send a message about being a professional during the middle of a world wide issue.

People act like a day to day person wouldn’t be fired for the stuff he pulled but a fine is out of line because of trolling online?

People this morning and yesterday were asking if Mitchell gave it to him which is insane. Only reason it might stop will because both players make a statement and the focus is completely on Gobert being unprofessional instead of who got who sick.

If not colorism then Gobert just has some hardcore followers that would even question Mitchell than let this man take responsibility

Here is a link to a CNN article about the backlash Gobert is getting for his mistake. Nothing negative whatsoever about Mitchell or people crapping on Mitchell...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/12/sport/rudy-gobert-coronavirus-prank-backlash-spt-intl/index.html

Here is a link to a Fox News article reporting the exact thing...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox40.com/sports/basketball/amid-covid-19-outbreak-nba-star-rudy-gobert-faces-backlash-for-prank/amp/

If CNN and Fox News are in lockstep about what’s happening— that Gobert is getting backlash and Mitchell is deservedly not— then you can pretty much guarantee it’s an accurate litmus test. Keep in mind, they’re agreeing on these things smack dab in the middle of one of the most divisive and contentious elections in our nation’s history.

You’re tripping, dude.

Social backlash has nothing to do with actual punishment. You can’t mess up to this level at any job and dismiss it because people made fun of me online. That’s not how life works and if they don’t punish him after this all cools down it would be a mistake because no one will forget it and it excuses reckless behavior.

I don’t even believe he should be suspended or fined right now but when he is better you let him know his actions reflected poorly on the league and players have been fined for far less

[Bensational]

A question for those who want to blame Gobert or fine him or whatever. Let's say he'd taken all precautions as he should, but he still tested positive for it and other players on the team get sick. What then?

Same end result, there just isn't a media-related incident and individual to lump all the blame on. Then what? Do we have a poll to see if the reporters should be fined for possibly bringing it to him? Or the fans who went to the game and maybe spread it that way? (At whatever origin point where he came in contact with it).

Gobert just stands as an example than in a world of 8 billion people, you're going to get some that spread it unintentionally just because they think they're fine. That is quite literally how it has spread and will continue to spread. Vilifying any individual right now is useless. Anyone thinking it can be stopped isn't listening when all World health officials say it can't be stopped, just slowed - maybe.

Finally, let's remember that Gobert and Mitchell are two people in their physical prime. They are likely part of the 97% of people who aren't in that fatal risk bracket. Like the 125,000+ people who have all walked away healthy and fine from this. That's not to minimise the tragic loss of over 4500 lives, but it's a reminder that the virus isn't a lethal concern for most people. Hence, making Gobert some kind of whipping boy for the fears people hold for their own loved ones in that 3% danger zone isn't fair, and punishing him likely won't deliver any kind of message to those who behave like him who aren't celebrities, or those who are just honestly unaware.

Protect the ones you love, but let's not point fingers and look for scapegoats. There's already enough conflict in the world.

[skones]

We've got 48 morons and counting in the poll.

Gobert was CERTAINLY the ONLY ONE making jokes about COVID-19. Nobody on your facebook feed was. Nobody on your twitter feed was. He was alone, and the most reckless.

Show of hands here who knows, at this moment, for absolute CERTAIN that they aren't asymptomatic, carrying the virus, and infecting others? Very few? That's what I thought.

Screw it then go to work or school and start touching other people and their stuff recklessly. See what happens some of you are not getting it that there is a major difference between online joking and physically going out of your way to make people uncomfortable

This is what you're completely missing. He wasn't "physically going out of his way to make people feel uncomfortable." He wasn't doing it to be malicious. He was making jokes. Those jokes backfired.

[KqWIN]

You are not a troll poster, and I'm gonna reply you once and proper.

Sitting on a high horse and looking down at people is what Gobert did. This virus is so contagious and its been known globally for at least a month. Gobert should exercise some semblance of social responsibility, and not do what he did.

As a fan of his, you should hold him accountable instead of blindly defending him.

You might want to take a second and google what "sitting on a high horse" means.

This is recognizing the situation for what it is and realizing how many people could make the same mistake. Feel free to kill me for this, but I could very easily see myself or anyone else spreading a virus they have no knowledge that they have. Like I said, in the past few days I've gone to work, touched public doorknobs, make physical contact with others...if I was infected the whole time I would have no way of knowing.

Fact is, we didn't take this seriously until it home. If Rudy Gobert didn't catch the virus, somebody else would have and unknowingly spread it. That's likely how he caught it. People all over are spreading it right now. It's unfortunate, but in order for people to care about these things it needs to hit home and for the general public that means a celebrity or athlete being effected.

It's unfortunate that it didn't happen earlier, but at least we are all very well of the dangers now. Gobert definitely pulled a homer.

[Kampuchea]

Ban from the NBA

[Nate505]

Apparently he won't. Good thing the NBA isn't as stupid as 57 people are.

[drosereturn]

I think he should be banned from the NBA and contract nullified to make him regret his decision. So many ignorant, careless people regarding the virus.

[Spens1]

A question for those who want to blame Gobert or fine him or whatever. Let's say he'd taken all precautions as he should, but he still tested positive for it and other players on the team get sick. What then?

Same end result, there just isn't a media-related incident and individual to lump all the blame on. Then what? Do we have a poll to see if the reporters should be fined for possibly bringing it to him? Or the fans who went to the game and maybe spread it that way? (At whatever origin point where he came in contact with it).

Gobert just stands as an example than in a world of 8 billion people, you're going to get some that spread it unintentionally just because they think they're fine. That is quite literally how it has spread and will continue to spread. Vilifying any individual right now is useless. Anyone thinking it can be stopped isn't listening when all World health officials say it can't be stopped, just slowed - maybe.

Finally, let's remember that Gobert and Mitchell are two people in their physical prime. They are likely part of the 97% of people who aren't in that fatal risk bracket. Like the 125,000+ people who have all walked away healthy and fine from this. That's not to minimise the tragic loss of over 4500 lives, but it's a reminder that the virus isn't a lethal concern for most people. Hence, making Gobert some kind of whipping boy for the fears people hold for their own loved ones in that 3% danger zone isn't fair, and punishing him likely won't deliver any kind of message to those who behave like him who aren't celebrities, or those who are just honestly unaware.

Protect the ones you love, but let's not point fingers and look for scapegoats. There's already enough conflict in the world.

No one is saying to fine him for catching it, they're calling for him to be fined for being an idiot in the video and apprenly an idiot in the locker room.

Just like if a player says something they get a fine, they deserve to get a fine if they act stupid.

[rtiff68]

This is putting the importance of social media over reality. THIS topic is about should Rudy Gobert be fined or suspended for HIS ACTIONS that were not only blatant but happen on multiple occasions at work that put himself and teammates at risk. It doesn’t matter if he was sick or not if someone else got sick he would of been used as an example of what not to do with his dismissive actions.


You actually think he’s had enough because of some damn memes and people holding him accountable online!?! Gobert getting sick was irony but he should be fined and may be suspended to send a message about being a professional during the middle of a world wide issue.

People act like a day to day person wouldn’t be fired for the stuff he pulled but a fine is out of line because of trolling online?

People this morning and yesterday were asking if Mitchell gave it to him which is insane. Only reason it might stop will because both players make a statement and the focus is completely on Gobert being unprofessional instead of who got who sick.

If not colorism then Gobert just has some hardcore followers that would even question Mitchell than let this man take responsibility

Here is a link to a CNN article about the backlash Gobert is getting for his mistake. Nothing negative whatsoever about Mitchell or people crapping on Mitchell...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/12/sport/rudy-gobert-coronavirus-prank-backlash-spt-intl/index.html

Here is a link to a Fox News article reporting the exact thing...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox40.com/sports/basketball/amid-covid-19-outbreak-nba-star-rudy-gobert-faces-backlash-for-prank/amp/

If CNN and Fox News are in lockstep about what’s happening— that Gobert is getting backlash and Mitchell is deservedly not— then you can pretty much guarantee it’s an accurate litmus test. Keep in mind, they’re agreeing on these things smack dab in the middle of one of the most divisive and contentious elections in our nation’s history.

You’re tripping, dude.

Social backlash has nothing to do with actual punishment. You can’t mess up to this level at any job and dismiss it because people made fun of me online. That’s not how life works and if they don’t punish him after this all cools down it would be a mistake because no one will forget it and it excuses reckless behavior.

I don’t even believe he should be suspended or fined right now but when he is better you let him know his actions reflected poorly on the league and players have been fined for far less

So now you’re totally backing off the arbitrary and erroneous racism claim?

[Bensational]

No one is saying to fine him for catching it, they're calling for him to be fined for being an idiot in the video and apprenly an idiot in the locker room.

Just like if a player says something they get a fine, they deserve to get a fine if they act stupid.

They generally get fined for saying something inappropriate out of anger or malice. I don't believe Gobert was acting with either of those intentions. He was indeed being ignorant in his actions, but he wasn't trying to infect people like an angry player trying to fight another player. It was the opposite, he was trying to show support and unity, just super poorly executed and now he looks like the world's biggest fool.

If anything, he has become the shining example for why people should be more educated about how seriously people are taking these precautions.