Shams: The season is suspended / Coronavirus Thread

[OrlChamps2030]

Apparently the NBA said the suspension is 30 days, for now.

Thought I saw yesterday that the incubation period for the virus may actually be 30+ days instead of the 14 days originally reported. It just doesn’t feel like there is enough known about the virus to expect anything a month out from now.

I’d say prepare to be without basketball for a long time..

[The Real Dalic]

People of Orlando, there's only so much crap that comes out of you each week... stop panic buying toilet paper.

I really don't understand that part of all of this. I swear less people buy boards to cover windows or non-perishable foods in case of no power during hurricanes than this. The rest of the stuff, like medicine and food, I understand. But toilet paper?

[tiderulz]

What would be the difference if we were testing people for the Common Cold/ FLU? If Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell tested positive for the Common Cold/ FLU, Would we still be postposting the regular season of the NBA and the other sports following suit? There's this talk in the past about this player is out for today's game or tomorrow's game because he has flu like symptoms because nobody gets tested for the Cold/ FLU so the games are not postponed/ cancelled? This don't make sense because the corona virus has the symptoms as the Cold/FLU.

my guesses, there is no vaccine for covid yet, but we do have flu shots. this makes covid a bit more contagious as people have zero defense other than their immune system. also, the mortality rate is higher. yes, it is small, but it is still higher.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

People of Orlando, there's only so much crap that comes out of you each week... stop panic buying toilet paper.

Lol

My brother has been saying this all week! I-4 is already a "Mad Max" style race track. Now toilet paper and hand sanitizer has vaporized like half the universe in "End Game" it really made me wonder why this hasn't been addressed in ANY end of the world stories, zombie apocalypse movies or even video games...

How bad would it suck to live through the zombie apocalypse without tp?..

[basketballRob]

Just called the Volusia county health department to see if i could get my mom a Covid-19 test and they have a coronavirus hotline setup. The lady picked up and she nonchalantly said, Covid 10 hotline, then she changed it to 19. I told her my mom had acute bronchitis and pneumonia in the right lung and could we get a Covid-19 test. She said, well no you just said she had pneumonia and bronchitis. Like they weren't related. I just called her an idiot and hung up.

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[tiderulz]

To address the several responses—I have actually been sifting through whatever information I could find from credible sources like healthline or CDC and interpreting that info as I read it.

I’m not here to talk about “snowflakes” or “fake news” or whatever. That has nothing to do with this.

What I’m seeing today are posts about how hard it must be to be in a red state and Trump this or that—bringing gun control issues and the Afghanistan war into this discussion. It’s obvious.

Add to that, all of a sudden everyone “knows” my political affiliation now based on my scrutiny of data presented and wow is that not a defensive political response. I even stated that I was shocked at the CDC testing and how that directly falls under the purview of the Executive Branch. Lol

Spinedoc, I’m not referring to you at all so relax. You and I had a good exchange at the end there.

Tide, same thing.

As to others that turned this into a personal attack sesh and a “I’m smarter than you because I do numbers” interaction, you guys enjoy the panic parade.

I’m the one bringing backwards politics into this?

I'm not trying to insult or disrespect you either, but you clearly don't see your own bias from your comments and stance you took. I am getting an overwhelming sense from my conservative patients and friends that this is all media blowing things out of proportion. Its been a conservative mantra for awhile now to not trust the "main" stream news, and this is a continuation of that. The news channels didn't get everyone to cancel all these events in a domino fashion. So, when I see someone make an argument about the media being out of line or having issues of reality, or at least insinuate that, I already know which road you've been traveling. I'm trying to navigate that myself and educate without being accusatory. I just thought it was ironic that you would post that is all, and wanted to bring your attention to it.

I understand and appreciate that. FWIW I see motivation from all sides to make particular arguments. Fox News for example runs this story NONSTOP as does every other 24/7 source.

Trump and conservatives may say it’s no big deal because he is trying to calm markets and put together a response.

Dems may say Trump is incompetent and here is why...

No Spine, I’m not going to try to argue that this virus is completely irrelevant. My initial post was too strong. I realize this could be very problematic for the elderly and those that have weakened immune systems. My disgust is how normal, healthy people are crowding hospitals with slight sniffles and consuming way more than they need in preparation for possibly nothing and how that harms healthcare professionals at all levels as well as patients experiencing things like heart attacks and strokes among other acute conditions or episodes.

My take is that any new strain of any virus can be dangerous because our bodies have no assistance at that point due to our lack of ability to prepare or fight it. I’m not going to argue that we need to pray it away and follow God Emperor Trump’s directives. I’m simply trying to put numbers into perspective such as the population of China and how that can explain spread numbers/how many smokers are in countries like China and Italy and how that can explain compromises respiratory and cardio conditions and how the virus is especially dangerous to those folks.

my only foray into politics. Trump needs to stop talking about the virus. everything he has said has been wrong. he started out by saying it would just "go away when it go warmer". He also said, it doesnt hit people that hard and many will just go into work even while sick. (horrible, horrible stance). He sat at the CDC saying they have plenty of tests and anyone that wanted to get tested could, even though they did NOT have the tests available. He said the cases were getting close to zero, that was never happening. He contradicted doctors by trying to inflate the Flu mortality rate. He said a vaccine was coming soon, in a matter of months, when his own medical people, immediately after said more like 12-18 months. he said 100,000 people died of the flu in 1990, later research showed 26,000 people. he said ""we have very low numbers compared to major countries throughout the world. Our numbers "are lower than just about anybody."" completely not true.

i agree he needs to say things to keep the market and business going, but when it comes to talking about the virus and medical information and situations, someone needs to take the microphone from him. he is only contributing to "fake news"

rant over, last political statement i'll make on this.

[thelead]

Ooh boy, you could just tell it was going to turn into a political Anti-Trump thread from the beginning. Everyone should be working together to get through a world crisis like this, instead, we get bickering and finger pointing. This is why the world is so messed up.

One person decided to take it there explicitly. We should ignore the political part of this and move on with the conversation.

[thelead]

Just called the Volusia county health department to see if i could get my mom a Covid-19 test and they have a coronavirus hotline setup. The lady picked up and she nonchalantly said, Covid 10 hotline, then she changed it to 19. I told her my mom had acute bronchitis and pneumonia in the right lung and could we get a Covid-19 test. She said, well no you just said she had pneumonia and bronchitis. Like they weren't related. I just called her an idiot and hung up.

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Wow... I hope we can, someday, get our (the US) medical situation shored up. That is ridiculous.

[Optimus_Steel]

Ooh boy, you could just tell it was going to turn into a political Anti-Trump thread from the beginning. Everyone should be working together to get through a world crisis like this, instead, we get bickering and finger pointing. This is why the world is so messed up.

We can't improve the situation if we can't criticize what has been an initially careless, and now tuned into a botched response to this serious threat. We are now a couple of months in since it became known and you have to call it out otherwise they will think their inept response is good enough. There is no excuse to having so few testing kits, so few amount of tests that have been completed, and for test kits that are missing parts.

[Optimus_Steel]

So now the president of Brazil has it. Mayor of Miami has it. BTW, president of Brazil was hanging out with Trump this past weekend...and had been in contact with the Miami mayor...

[spinedoc]

How da hell you can turn global pandemia into pro/against Trump talk?

Because the response in this country makes a difference. We would rather not go through the Italian model. I'm frustrated too with the lack of leadership and misleading the public.

Italy didn't have "model". They have memorandum with China that they signed few years ago that allows Chineese tourists to travel with direct airlines to Italy in return for some businesses in China from Italian brands.
So their direct lines of traveling ( that by default , are all in Lombardia, the most affected area) are only reason why Italy got so infected so fast.

As China got infected, nobody really did nothing for first few weeks, and nobody took it seriously, direct flys from China to Italy continued until it was too late.

It's not really that complicated to understand.

As far as i know USA stopped international flights. It's almost impossible to close borders in the world in general, lot of people work in one country and live in another nowdays.

Its not about stopping travel, the experts say that doesn't work anyway. I was referring to the lack of early response particularly to testing and trying to isolate this better. Its more about mitigation and not draconian isolation. If we can't test properly, then we fail to know the scope of the problem. Letting everyone get it, especially all at once, is not a plan at all. I don't want to see the entire country on a complete lock down, but that is where we are headed. That's what I meant. How is it Taiwan can test as many people in a day that we have tested in two months?

Also, to those of you that are bummed that this has turned somewhat political, you can blame the man in the white house for that. From the get go he treated this crisis as a political one, not a public health or financial crisis. He even resorted to blaming Obama again, even though he gutted the CDC and disbanded the pandemic unit there. Don't blame us for the criticism, when its the politicians lack of response that is making this a political issue. And by the way, I would be just as critical if it were Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan or Carter acting this way, or not acting depending on your perspective. This virus knows no political party, and I know both Democrats and Republicans being critical of this president. Although you see the approval poll of Trump's handling of this matter is right at 43%, the same approval rating no matter what he does. Now, who are the ones really being political here? Because, a blind man with a seeing eye dog can see how this has been mishandled.

[EAS Law]

Ooh boy, you could just tell it was going to turn into a political Anti-Trump thread from the beginning. Everyone should be working together to get through a world crisis like this, instead, we get bickering and finger pointing. This is why the world is so messed up.

One person decided to take it there explicitly. We should ignore the political part of this and move on with the conversation.

That is 100% false. Revisit page 8 onward. Lots of political commentary and twisting of discussion into some alleged political stance based on assumptions.

Plus to your other post that quoted me, I don’t believe I’ve attacked anyone here politically and didn’t intend to bring that into the conversation at all, which is why I explicitly stated at the beginning that I wasn’t concerned with “snowflake” talk when I responded to SOUL.

I got attacked by all the stats guys/political experts/epidemic experts/pseudo medical doctors (not the actual ones in this conversation) as some conservative charlatan because of my approach to the available data.

In any event, I’ve been through this on this same board in the past and despite attempts to stay clear of political discussion, because it always devolves into personal and vile attacks here, it’s just not going to happen with this group. I hope everyone remains safe and sound and things run their course with minimal impact on all of you and your families.

Rob—wishing your mom a quick and full recovery with no complications.

Spine—thank you for your input and our eventual positive discussion.

Tide—thank you as well for the same.

Later folks.

[Last Guardian]

My company told me to work remote for next two weeks. AND there is no basketball to watch, and barely any events to go to! Looks like I'll be catching up on some video games and Netflix.

In any case, I understand the concern absolutely. I don't understand the panic. Its concerning for the elderly and immune compromised and we should do our best not to spread it around until they have a vaccine for it. But everyone going nuts like we are being taken over by zombies??

[Knightro]

No more political posts moving forward or we are going to lock the thread. Consider this a warning for everyone involved.

This is a thread about the NBA season being suspended.

[tiderulz]

No more political posts moving forward or we are going to lock the thread. Consider this a warning for everyone involved.

This is a thread about the NBA season being suspended.

its actually moved beyond that awhile ago. but i agree about keeping politics out of it

[j-ragg]

20 short years ago IIRC the Knicks made the Finals as the 8th seed against the Spurs. That shortened season made the Knicks sneak up on everyone. History repeats itself right? Destiny.

[Knightro]

its actually moved beyond that awhile ago. but i agree about keeping politics out of it

I agree, but rather than go back and nitpick every single post from the previous 15 pages, I think it's easier to just call a cease and desist from this point forward.

[The Real Dalic]

No more political posts moving forward or we are going to lock the thread. Consider this a warning for everyone involved.

This is a thread about the NBA season being suspended.

And to go back on the NBA side of things, I'm hoping all members of the Orlando Magic have avoided this virus through that plane that the Jazz used.

I do feel like if people are smart and just hang out at home unless absolutely neccessary (like work, shopping, etc.) this could pass a little faster like it supposedly is in China and South Korea. I'm gonna try my best to be at home and relax. I'm an introvert who loves video games and TV shows anyway.

[thelead]

I, and the stock market, like what the government is doing in this press conference

[Knightro]

I, and the stock market, like what the government is doing in this press conference

C'mon man. I just said no more politics and you liked the post.