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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#521 » by dice » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:23 pm

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Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter


He shouldn't be doing this. It should come from their employer who will have a source of income forever. A career injury will kill his source of income. The Pelicans should say their profits from Nov to March can be paid to the workers for some kind of community work.

zion williamson is 19 years old, has played 19 nba games and has made over 100 million dollars professionally between nba salary, shoe deal and presumably other stuff. he's set for life

and it is probably a combination of pelicans employees, arena employees and vendor employees
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#522 » by TheStig » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:27 pm

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TheStig wrote:I think there is good reason to believe we will be one of the hardest hit by it. I could be wrong, there could be a vaccine, it could fizzle out but I think there is a real cause for concern because the underlying conditions are there for it to be really bad. I think you'll see tens of millions infected and tens of thousands of deaths.


Again, I discussed best case scenario, not actual scenario or worst case scenario. I said the best case scenario is better than 25% of the nation getting it. Given that 25% of China didn't get it (or even .1% of China), I think that the best case scenario for the US is better than 25%.

I mean you're just making up numbers at this point. Why not just call it 10% and say it's even better.

I think you have to go for the more likely scenarios. And this will be serious. I don't understand why there was a guy at the store who was buying 40 2 liter colas but I do get stocking up a decent amount of supplies.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#523 » by supermario » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:43 pm

dice wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:Trump just declared a national emergency. The fact that the guy who is repeatedly downplaying this has declared a national emergency should speak volumes as to how serious this is.

ironically, the stock market surged while he was presenting a coherent, serious response to the issue. he had previously been downplaying it to prevent the stock market from taking a hit and it was having the exact opposite effect


This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#524 » by HomoSapien » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:48 pm

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:Trump just declared a national emergency. The fact that the guy who is repeatedly downplaying this has declared a national emergency should speak volumes as to how serious this is.

ironically, the stock market surged while he was presenting a coherent, serious response to the issue. he had previously been downplaying it to prevent the stock market from taking a hit and it was having the exact opposite effect


This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.


If he produced a cure tomorrow, you could be sure that I wouldn't bash that.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#525 » by thedarkstark » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:50 pm

dice wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter


He shouldn't be doing this. It should come from their employer who will have a source of income forever. A career injury will kill his source of income. The Pelicans should say their profits from Nov to March can be paid to the workers for some kind of community work.

zion williamson is 19 years old, has played 19 nba games and has made over 100 million dollars professionally between nba salary, shoe deal and presumably other stuff. he's set for life

and it is probably a combination of pelicans employees, arena employees and vendor employees


Doesn't matter, the sackless owners should be the ones stepping up to foot the bill, not the players. When tax breaks and government issued relief funds are inevitibly extended they'll go to the owners, not the players.

Just goes to show why owners are owners, their greed knows no bounds, they don't care how many people have to struggle or suffer to build their empire.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#526 » by dice » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:37 pm

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:Trump just declared a national emergency. The fact that the guy who is repeatedly downplaying this has declared a national emergency should speak volumes as to how serious this is.

ironically, the stock market surged while he was presenting a coherent, serious response to the issue. he had previously been downplaying it to prevent the stock market from taking a hit and it was having the exact opposite effect


This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.

if "we" produced a cure tomorrow, you can bet that trump would take credit for it. just like he has tried to take credit (until recent days) for a stock market that had been on a bull run for over a decade. something that presidents frankly have very limited control over save extreme circumstances

the trump administration response has been WIDELY maligned:

1) fired the government pandemic response unit a couple of years ago. trump's recent response when questioned about the decision: "we couldn't have known that this was going to happen" the existence of the unit was precisely in case this DID happen!
2) trump suggested that the media response was a democrat hoax
3) he suggested that infected people should go to work
4) the administration nixed the CDC's recommendation of a public announcement that seniors should stay off planes
5) they continue to stand by their budget request to slash the CDC budget, which a former director has called "unsafe at any level of enactment"...and cut food stamps. a month ago he also proposed huge cuts to the national institute of health
6) in his oval office address (a prepared speech!) he caused a panic by inaccurately stating that all travel to europe would be banned for 30 days, causing americans in europe to frantically purchase last-minute flights back to the states at prices as high as $20,000
7) in the same speech he mistakenly said that major insurance companies would cover treatment for coronavirus for free, whereas they had actually only agreed to cover testing co-pays
8) said that he had a "hunch" that the expert estimates of coronavirus death rates were wrong and that it was actually only a fraction of 1%
9) was reluctant to agree to have individuals stuck on a cruise ship taken off and quarantined on US land because it would increase the official infection numbers
10) said that warm weather will cause the virus to disappear like a miracle
11) completely lied a week ago when he said that anyone who wants a test can get one...a day after his administration announced that they would fall far short of their goal of quickly getting a million tests out
12) promised that a vaccine would be available soon. it is estimated to take at least a year
13) amazingly tried to blame obama

gotta laugh to keep from crying:





this was all warned against:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

we've had pandemics before. we've never had anything approaching this level of dangerous misinformation and bumbling incompetence
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#527 » by dice » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:45 pm

thedarkstark wrote:
dice wrote:
Mech Engineer wrote:
He shouldn't be doing this. It should come from their employer who will have a source of income forever. A career injury will kill his source of income. The Pelicans should say their profits from Nov to March can be paid to the workers for some kind of community work.

zion williamson is 19 years old, has played 19 nba games and has made over 100 million dollars professionally between nba salary, shoe deal and presumably other stuff. he's set for life

and it is probably a combination of pelicans employees, arena employees and vendor employees


Doesn't matter, the sackless owners should be the ones stepping up to foot the bill, not the players. When tax breaks and government issued relief funds are inevitibly extended they'll go to the owners, not the players.

i agree that the owners should cover the affected workers before a player should. i was merely disputing your suggestion that zion's financial status was in any way precarious

Just goes to show why owners are owners, their greed knows no bounds, they don't care how many people have to struggle or suffer to build their empire.

perhaps they were preparing to make an announcement that they would cover those workers before zion beat them to the punch

i should also note that the goodwill that zion will engender with this will likely make him more money in endorsements than the payout to workers will cost him. i'm not cynical enough to believe that that was his motivation, however. but a lot of athletes ARE awfully conscious of their "brands" these days. much like corporations who are involved in charitable activities are

p.s.: it is precisely because the common man makes so little compared to the bigwigs that covering these workers will not be a major burden for zion. we should ask ourselves as a society why we don't have a better system to begin with. the day will come when a universal basic income (social security for all) will be instituted. hopefully billions of americans over decades will not need to needlessly suffer before that becomes a reality
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#528 » by Mbrahv0528 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:53 pm

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:Trump just declared a national emergency. The fact that the guy who is repeatedly downplaying this has declared a national emergency should speak volumes as to how serious this is.

ironically, the stock market surged while he was presenting a coherent, serious response to the issue. he had previously been downplaying it to prevent the stock market from taking a hit and it was having the exact opposite effect


This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.
Yeah um well that's just like your opinion man .

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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#529 » by supermario » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:21 am

dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
dice wrote:ironically, the stock market surged while he was presenting a coherent, serious response to the issue. he had previously been downplaying it to prevent the stock market from taking a hit and it was having the exact opposite effect


This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.

if "we" produced a cure tomorrow, you can bet that trump would take credit for it. just like he has tried to take credit (until recent days) for a stock market that had been on a bull run for over a decade. something that presidents frankly have very limited control over save extreme circumstances

the trump administration response has been WIDELY maligned:

1) fired the government pandemic response unit a couple of years ago. trump's recent response when questioned about the decision: "we couldn't have known that this was going to happen" the existence of the unit was precisely in case this DID happen!
2) trump suggested that the media response was a democrat hoax
3) he suggested that infected people should go to work
4) the administration nixed the CDC's recommendation of a public announcement that seniors should stay off planes
5) they continue to stand by their budget request to slash the CDC budget, which a former director has called "unsafe at any level of enactment"...and cut food stamps. a month ago he also proposed huge cuts to the national institute of health
6) in his oval office address (a prepared speech!) he caused a panic by inaccurately stating that all travel to europe would be banned for 30 days, causing americans in europe to frantically purchase last-minute flights back to the states at prices as high as $20,000
7) in the same speech he mistakenly said that major insurance companies would cover treatment for coronavirus for free, whereas they had actually only agreed to cover testing co-pays
8) said that he had a "hunch" that the expert estimates of coronavirus death rates were wrong and that it was actually only a fraction of 1%
9) was reluctant to agree to have individuals stuck on a cruise ship taken off and quarantined on US land because it would increase the official infection numbers
10) said that warm weather will cause the virus to disappear like a miracle
11) completely lied a week ago when he said that anyone who wants a test can get one...a day after his administration announced that they would fall far short of their goal of quickly getting a million tests out
12) promised that a vaccine would be available soon. it is estimated to take at least a year
13) amazingly tried to blame obama

gotta laugh to keep from crying:





this was all warned against:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

we've had pandemics before. we've never had anything approaching this level of dangerous misinformation and bumbling incompetence


Comedy Central? Really. Anyone can knit pick and fault another in the event of a crisis. Nobody wants this to get worse, stay healthy bud.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#530 » by MrSparkle » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:35 am

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.

if "we" produced a cure tomorrow, you can bet that trump would take credit for it. just like he has tried to take credit (until recent days) for a stock market that had been on a bull run for over a decade. something that presidents frankly have very limited control over save extreme circumstances

the trump administration response has been WIDELY maligned:

1) fired the government pandemic response unit a couple of years ago. trump's recent response when questioned about the decision: "we couldn't have known that this was going to happen" the existence of the unit was precisely in case this DID happen!
2) trump suggested that the media response was a democrat hoax
3) he suggested that infected people should go to work
4) the administration nixed the CDC's recommendation of a public announcement that seniors should stay off planes
5) they continue to stand by their budget request to slash the CDC budget, which a former director has called "unsafe at any level of enactment"...and cut food stamps. a month ago he also proposed huge cuts to the national institute of health
6) in his oval office address (a prepared speech!) he caused a panic by inaccurately stating that all travel to europe would be banned for 30 days, causing americans in europe to frantically purchase last-minute flights back to the states at prices as high as $20,000
7) in the same speech he mistakenly said that major insurance companies would cover treatment for coronavirus for free, whereas they had actually only agreed to cover testing co-pays
8) said that he had a "hunch" that the expert estimates of coronavirus death rates were wrong and that it was actually only a fraction of 1%
9) was reluctant to agree to have individuals stuck on a cruise ship taken off and quarantined on US land because it would increase the official infection numbers
10) said that warm weather will cause the virus to disappear like a miracle
11) completely lied a week ago when he said that anyone who wants a test can get one...a day after his administration announced that they would fall far short of their goal of quickly getting a million tests out
12) promised that a vaccine would be available soon. it is estimated to take at least a year
13) amazingly tried to blame obama

gotta laugh to keep from crying:





this was all warned against:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

we've had pandemics before. we've never had anything approaching this level of dangerous misinformation and bumbling incompetence


Comedy Central? Really. Anyone can knit pick and fault another in the event of a crisis. Nobody wants this to get worse, stay healthy bud.


Here's his last link again. 2018, have a look-see: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#531 » by dice » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:39 am

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
This is the first time the modern world has seen a virus this contagious and widespread. He shut down China quickly and much of the government approach i've seen so far has been quick and aggressive from both sides. We could produce a cure tomorrow and you would still bash him and his organization.

if "we" produced a cure tomorrow, you can bet that trump would take credit for it. just like he has tried to take credit (until recent days) for a stock market that had been on a bull run for over a decade. something that presidents frankly have very limited control over save extreme circumstances

the trump administration response has been WIDELY maligned:

1) fired the government pandemic response unit a couple of years ago. trump's recent response when questioned about the decision: "we couldn't have known that this was going to happen" the existence of the unit was precisely in case this DID happen!
2) trump suggested that the media response was a democrat hoax
3) he suggested that infected people should go to work
4) the administration nixed the CDC's recommendation of a public announcement that seniors should stay off planes
5) they continue to stand by their budget request to slash the CDC budget, which a former director has called "unsafe at any level of enactment"...and cut food stamps. a month ago he also proposed huge cuts to the national institute of health
6) in his oval office address (a prepared speech!) he caused a panic by inaccurately stating that all travel to europe would be banned for 30 days, causing americans in europe to frantically purchase last-minute flights back to the states at prices as high as $20,000
7) in the same speech he mistakenly said that major insurance companies would cover treatment for coronavirus for free, whereas they had actually only agreed to cover testing co-pays
8) said that he had a "hunch" that the expert estimates of coronavirus death rates were wrong and that it was actually only a fraction of 1%
9) was reluctant to agree to have individuals stuck on a cruise ship taken off and quarantined on US land because it would increase the official infection numbers
10) said that warm weather will cause the virus to disappear like a miracle
11) completely lied a week ago when he said that anyone who wants a test can get one...a day after his administration announced that they would fall far short of their goal of quickly getting a million tests out
12) promised that a vaccine would be available soon. it is estimated to take at least a year
13) amazingly tried to blame obama

gotta laugh to keep from crying:





this was all warned against:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

we've had pandemics before. we've never had anything approaching this level of dangerous misinformation and bumbling incompetence


Comedy Central? Really.

you skipped right over the other criticism to fixate on the videos? really?

feel free to disagree with anything that's in there. i can give you a whole lot more if you'd like from a wide variety of news sources. but you don't want that. figured the humor would make the medicine go down smoother

Anyone can knit pick and fault another in the event of a crisis.

1) not to nit pick, but it's 'nit pick.' irony
2) i gave you a laundry list of gross mismanagement. THIRTEEN major errors/attempts to mislead (and i probably missed some) in a matter of weeks. not remotely close to "nit picking." your suggestion that that's what i'm doing suggests an obvious agenda and is absolutely ridiculous

once again, other administrations of both parties have handled pandemics appropriately. this one hasn't. not by a country mile

p.s.: studies have shown that the daily show informs much better than fox news (a network, like comedy central, registered as an entertainment channel rather than news) does. pretty much all news sources do, actually. fox is the one television network that actively misleads its viewers. unsurprising given that it was created by a republican party political propaganda operative (roger ailes). i won't speculate on where you get your news

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#532 » by Taikuri » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:56 am

TallDude wrote:Worst scase scenario for Usa is 150million people get virus. It means that no sports for this year. And economy is going down. Best scenario was 75-100million get virus. In Finland today was the day when we almost double our stats. 65 up to 109. Of course real number is much higher. Still pretty good compare to Norway and Sweden. I think friday we have 200-300 cases. Week or two 10000+ something. They will close the schools here latest after weekend.


Yes I feel like it's taking too long for them to close schools in Finland and in many other countries as well. Need to semi-close the borders and set anyone who comes back from abroad to be auto quarantined for 7-14 days. Goverment or what ever would give them free food till their quarantine is over.

Germany didn't close schools and it's getting bad over there but it's very interesting reasoning that Germans say that if kids don't go to school, then a lot of the medical workers who have kids would be working less at the hospitals because they would have to take care of their kids plus the Germans don't want their kids to be taken care of by their grand parents who are the risk group. So they estimate it would be even worse for their country. Some tough choices. Gotta pick ur poison I guess.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#533 » by Sense-A » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 am

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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#534 » by supermario » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:05 am

dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
dice wrote:if "we" produced a cure tomorrow, you can bet that trump would take credit for it. just like he has tried to take credit (until recent days) for a stock market that had been on a bull run for over a decade. something that presidents frankly have very limited control over save extreme circumstances

the trump administration response has been WIDELY maligned:

1) fired the government pandemic response unit a couple of years ago. trump's recent response when questioned about the decision: "we couldn't have known that this was going to happen" the existence of the unit was precisely in case this DID happen!
2) trump suggested that the media response was a democrat hoax
3) he suggested that infected people should go to work
4) the administration nixed the CDC's recommendation of a public announcement that seniors should stay off planes
5) they continue to stand by their budget request to slash the CDC budget, which a former director has called "unsafe at any level of enactment"...and cut food stamps. a month ago he also proposed huge cuts to the national institute of health
6) in his oval office address (a prepared speech!) he caused a panic by inaccurately stating that all travel to europe would be banned for 30 days, causing americans in europe to frantically purchase last-minute flights back to the states at prices as high as $20,000
7) in the same speech he mistakenly said that major insurance companies would cover treatment for coronavirus for free, whereas they had actually only agreed to cover testing co-pays
8) said that he had a "hunch" that the expert estimates of coronavirus death rates were wrong and that it was actually only a fraction of 1%
9) was reluctant to agree to have individuals stuck on a cruise ship taken off and quarantined on US land because it would increase the official infection numbers
10) said that warm weather will cause the virus to disappear like a miracle
11) completely lied a week ago when he said that anyone who wants a test can get one...a day after his administration announced that they would fall far short of their goal of quickly getting a million tests out
12) promised that a vaccine would be available soon. it is estimated to take at least a year
13) amazingly tried to blame obama

gotta laugh to keep from crying:





this was all warned against:

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/2/23/16974012/trump-pandemic-disease-response

we've had pandemics before. we've never had anything approaching this level of dangerous misinformation and bumbling incompetence


Comedy Central? Really.

you skipped right over the other criticism to fixate on the videos? really?

feel free to disagree with anything that's in there. i can give you a whole lot more if you'd like from a wide variety of news sources. but you don't want that. figured the humor would make the medicine go down smoother

Anyone can knit pick and fault another in the event of a crisis.

1) not to nit pick, but it's 'nit pick.' irony
2) i gave you a laundry list of gross mismanagement. THIRTEEN major errors/attempts to mislead (and i probably missed some) in a matter of weeks. not remotely close to "nit picking." your suggestion that that's what i'm doing suggests an obvious agenda and is absolutely ridiculous

once again, other administrations of both parties have handled pandemics appropriately. this one hasn't. not by a country mile

p.s.: studies have shown that the daily show informs much better than fox news (a network, like comedy central, registered as an entertainment channel rather than news) does. pretty much all news sources do, actually. fox is the one television network that actively misleads its viewers. unsurprising given that it was created by a republican party political propaganda operative (roger ailes). i won't speculate on where you get your news

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5


I watch all News Networks and I trust my own judgement weeding thru the good and bad of each network.

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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#535 » by Taikuri » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:16 am

HomoSapien wrote:I completely agree. Not only is it foolish, but it's also selfish. I'm just astonished that until yesterday I was on an island by myself on this. The trip isn't until the 19th, so maybe they'll come to their senses before they leave.


The most frustrating thing is when your relative is stubbon during this chrisis. In my case it's probably worse bencause it's elderly relative. My mother is 63 years old, she has high blood pressure, she has has some thyroid function malfunction (don't know what it is in English) that many females have. She takes medicine for both of those. She used to smoke cigarettes 20 years ago. Hopefully the lungs are fine till now. This is exactly what the experts warn about and who belong to the risk group, a person that is 60+ years and has ongoing small illnesses that make ur immune system even weaker.

She could retire now but she wants to work for 1 more year and then retire. I keep telling her retire now and lock urself in and only move out a little bit, she isn't listening to me. She goes to work every week day and does a 40 minutes of travel with a subway and I tell her that she will get infected in that subway after some weeks, she tells me she is in good condition and is stubborn. Mind you these subways are in Finland's capital Helsinki which is the main place of Corona virus by far and these subways are full of studends and young people who will not die to Corona virus and often they don't even care about their hygiene.

I wouldn't care at all or be worried this much about corona virus if her attitude wasn't like that. She also has 4 weeks of paid summer vacation to be used and she thinks in 3 months she can go to her cabin and go enjoy the summer like any other summer, while she could be using her vacation now. She doesn't understand that she can't use the vacation weeks if she is dead lol. It's so frustrating and stressful. I don't worry about myself at all and I don't fear myself dying but I don't want to see my mom die to this thing because I respect her so much for working for her entire life as a single parent and she is just 1 year away from retirement and she could retire but she decided to take a bonus year for better retirement money. Frustrating is the word. She is rolling the dice pretty much while she doesn't need to take that risk. If she would would retire and not move out much in the next 6-12 months she would have probably 30 years of guaranteed life but she is going to take this unnecessary risk.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#536 » by TheStig » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:16 am

Jcool0 wrote:
Read on Twitter

Why does a 19 year old rookie need to do this? Why can't the billionaire owner pay their staff? Why isn't the federal government helping?

It's nice a 19 year old millionaire is doing this. But what does that say about the rich that get bailed out in this country?
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#537 » by dice » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:19 am

supermario wrote:
dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
Comedy Central? Really.

you skipped right over the other criticism to fixate on the videos? really?

feel free to disagree with anything that's in there. i can give you a whole lot more if you'd like from a wide variety of news sources. but you don't want that. figured the humor would make the medicine go down smoother

Anyone can knit pick and fault another in the event of a crisis.

1) not to nit pick, but it's 'nit pick.' irony
2) i gave you a laundry list of gross mismanagement. THIRTEEN major errors/attempts to mislead (and i probably missed some) in a matter of weeks. not remotely close to "nit picking." your suggestion that that's what i'm doing suggests an obvious agenda and is absolutely ridiculous

once again, other administrations of both parties have handled pandemics appropriately. this one hasn't. not by a country mile

p.s.: studies have shown that the daily show informs much better than fox news (a network, like comedy central, registered as an entertainment channel rather than news) does. pretty much all news sources do, actually. fox is the one television network that actively misleads its viewers. unsurprising given that it was created by a republican party political propaganda operative (roger ailes). i won't speculate on where you get your news

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5


I watch all News Networks and I trust my own judgement weeding thru the good and bad of each network.

fair enough. it should be pretty evident to you what's going on then

There are 7 billion people in this world and we all have our opinions.

and you're entitled to your opinions. but not your own facts. and neither is this administration

you still have yet to dispute a single one of the many, many instances of incompetence that the trump administration has shown. all you've done is say "eh, nothing to see here. let's let it all slide." including the freaking leader of the free world TELLING PEOPLE WITH CORONAVIRUS THEY SHOULD GO TO WORK! tough to weed through the good and bad when it's almost all weeds
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#538 » by dice » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:24 am

Sense-A wrote:Adam Silver is China's bitch.

i suppose that every organization that has curtailed its activies in the face of coronavirus is china's bitch? including governments across the globe?

nba players have been infected, dude. the nba going on hiatus is not being done out of an abundance of caution. it's pretty much a necessity
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#539 » by supermario » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:26 am

dice wrote:
supermario wrote:
dice wrote:you skipped right over the other criticism to fixate on the videos? really?

feel free to disagree with anything that's in there. i can give you a whole lot more if you'd like from a wide variety of news sources. but you don't want that. figured the humor would make the medicine go down smoother


1) not to nit pick, but it's 'nit pick.' irony
2) i gave you a laundry list of gross mismanagement. THIRTEEN major errors/attempts to mislead (and i probably missed some) in a matter of weeks. not remotely close to "nit picking." your suggestion that that's what i'm doing suggests an obvious agenda and is absolutely ridiculous

once again, other administrations of both parties have handled pandemics appropriately. this one hasn't. not by a country mile

p.s.: studies have shown that the daily show informs much better than fox news (a network, like comedy central, registered as an entertainment channel rather than news) does. pretty much all news sources do, actually. fox is the one television network that actively misleads its viewers. unsurprising given that it was created by a republican party political propaganda operative (roger ailes). i won't speculate on where you get your news

https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5


I watch all News Networks and I trust my own judgement weeding thru the good and bad of each network.

fair enough. it should be pretty evident to you what's going on then

There are 7 billion people in this world and we all have our opinions.

and you're entitled to your opinions. but not your own facts. and neither is this administration

you still have yet to dispute a single one of the many, many instances of incompetence that the trump administration has shown. all you've done is say "eh, nothing to see here. let's let it all slide." including the freaking leader of the free world TELLING PEOPLE WITH CORONAVIRUS THEY SHOULD GO TO WORK! tough to weed through the good and bad when it's almost all weeds


I’m not going to dispute you because it’s a no win situation. I dispute your Zion post too with you counting his money.

Let’s see how it plays out in the US. We need a week to see if we’re the next Italy/Wuhan or if our government actually protected us.

Just take it easy man, spend some time with family and protect your children and parents.
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Re: Coronavirus 

Post#540 » by Taikuri » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:28 am

Susan wrote:
Read on Twitter


Charles Barkley has it.


The dude isn't that young and a bit over weight so its worrysome for sure. When 100 super famous people are infected chances are high 1-2 of them will die. Imagine some Clint Eastwood of Schwarzenegger (had a heart sugery lately and is old) or someone like that dying. It will create massive panic around the world. It is the last wake up call to some people though how serious thing this is. That is the only positive thing about it that even the last people who think Corona is just a flu would finally wake up and take action of not moving around for no reason and spreading this thing.

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