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Daaaarryyl wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/white-house-set-fail/607960/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
knicksh20b wrote:Daaaarryyl wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/white-house-set-fail/607960/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
This is pretty optimistic. I think we're gonna see if people can actually look beyond Faux News right now.
Bulls69 wrote:The think about the Bulls we realizes we sucks but the Knicks on the other hand think everyone wants to play a garbage a** team. get real a team who has not won a win in over thirty -five years
Clyde_Style wrote:Daaaarryyl wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/white-house-set-fail/607960/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
Good articles. I read them both.
What is striking to me is how lucky we are Obama dealt so decisively with Ebola. If he hadn't we could have seen a crisis here much worse than this.
And Trump gutted everything that was in place to handle those situations.
Bulls69 wrote:The think about the Bulls we realizes we sucks but the Knicks on the other hand think everyone wants to play a garbage a** team. get real a team who has not won a win in over thirty -five years
Daaaarryyl wrote:knicksh20b wrote:Daaaarryyl wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/white-house-set-fail/607960/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
This is pretty optimistic. I think we're gonna see if people can actually look beyond Faux News right now.
Really wanted to post that to make sure everyone knows Trump eliminated a department created by Obama that monitored diseases around the world.
If it's been discussed here I didn't know.
He was asked about this today and said that was a "nasty" question and then said he knew nothing about abolishing the department and that maybe someone else did it and he did not know about it lol
Clyde_Style wrote:nedleeds wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:I think Trump is going to die. He looks sick as hell. Both him and Pence were exposed and they both refused to get tested.
I'm guessing he's not going to make it to November
Just a hunch, but I think he's the very example of the kind of host this virus strikes down
Maybe they all die, Bernie looks like a mummy, Biden looks like a derelict at the end of a Panama City bar who is still trying to snag 30 year olds and Trump looks like shoe leather given life and a funny wig. At least then I could vote for Tulsi Gabbard or somebody sane and not a complete communist who will obliterate any incentive to create a small business.
It's the Monster Mash with Biden as Dracula, Sanders as the Mummy and Trump as the Blob.
Lucky for us Tulsi will never get that chance so I'll spare you my spiel on how ludicrous I find her.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
Clyde_Style wrote:nedleeds wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:I think Trump is going to die. He looks sick as hell. Both him and Pence were exposed and they both refused to get tested.
I'm guessing he's not going to make it to November
Just a hunch, but I think he's the very example of the kind of host this virus strikes down
Maybe they all die, Bernie looks like a mummy, Biden looks like a derelict at the end of a Panama City bar who is still trying to snag 30 year olds and Trump looks like shoe leather given life and a funny wig. At least then I could vote for Tulsi Gabbard or somebody sane and not a complete communist who will obliterate any incentive to create a small business.
It's the Monster Mash with Biden as Dracula, Sanders as the Mummy and Trump as the Blob.
Lucky for us Tulsi will never get that chance so I'll spare you my spiel on how ludicrous I find her.
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:nedleeds wrote:
Maybe they all die, Bernie looks like a mummy, Biden looks like a derelict at the end of a Panama City bar who is still trying to snag 30 year olds and Trump looks like shoe leather given life and a funny wig. At least then I could vote for Tulsi Gabbard or somebody sane and not a complete communist who will obliterate any incentive to create a small business.
It's the Monster Mash with Biden as Dracula, Sanders as the Mummy and Trump as the Blob.
Lucky for us Tulsi will never get that chance so I'll spare you my spiel on how ludicrous I find her.
Actually - as a non-US-voter - I'm interested in your take on Tulsi. I'd be very interested in your spiel on her.
nedleeds wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:nedleeds wrote:
Maybe they all die, Bernie looks like a mummy, Biden looks like a derelict at the end of a Panama City bar who is still trying to snag 30 year olds and Trump looks like shoe leather given life and a funny wig. At least then I could vote for Tulsi Gabbard or somebody sane and not a complete communist who will obliterate any incentive to create a small business.
It's the Monster Mash with Biden as Dracula, Sanders as the Mummy and Trump as the Blob.
Lucky for us Tulsi will never get that chance so I'll spare you my spiel on how ludicrous I find her.
There's really nobody for me but she's closer than those 3 corpses. I voted Bill Clinton and didn't vote again until 2016. If you are a secular, atheist, free market, free speech, social liberal, personal responsibility centrist you basically have nobody to vote for. You may not agree with about 1/2 of my stances but you'll agree I have nobody to vote for.
Daaaarryyl wrote:knicksh20b wrote:Daaaarryyl wrote:https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/white-house-set-fail/607960/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/peter-wehner-trump-presidency-over/607969/
This is pretty optimistic. I think we're gonna see if people can actually look beyond Faux News right now.
Really wanted to post that to make sure everyone knows Trump eliminated a department created by Obama that monitored diseases around the world.
If it's been discussed here I didn't know.
He was asked about this today and said that was a "nasty" question and then said he knew nothing about abolishing the department and that maybe someone else did it and he did not know about it lol
Zenzibar wrote:Who'll win this Democratic race, is anyone's guess.
Clyde_Style wrote:Report from Florida
Still has not sunk in to everyone here what is happening
Just got back from Walmart where you could buy almost any product though a few things were almost cleaned out. I wanted zinc tabs and they were gone.
But plenty of fresh veggies and fruits.
The rice was almost all gone. Lots of pasta sold
pretty busy, not panicky, just everyone was super conscious of not bumping into each other
GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:GONYK wrote:
If Bernie was up 150 delegates at this point in time, that would mean that he won South Carolina, Michigan, TX, and VA. Which would mean that he has the support of the black community, working class whites, and suburban women.
If he had the support of those communities, the Democratic party couldn't deny him even if they wanted to.
1 of 3 things needs to happen for Bernie to have a chance
1. Bernie wins in every state and keeps Biden below the 15% delegate threshold in every state. As long as Joe still gets delegates, Bernie loses ground.
2. Biden does something to lose the support of the black community. (Says the N word by accident during a debate?
3. Biden dies
Now, admittedly, not all of those are out of the realm of possibility. I just don't think you open up field offices and continue to distract the presumptive nominee from being able to concentrate on the general election while opening him to lines of attack on the off-chance one of them happens.
If people cares about M4A over defeating Trump, they would have voted for it. Anything that distracts from beating Trump is going against the will of the people, IMO.
I understand what the thread is saying though. I support Bernie staying in for the next debate and putting Joe through his paces. I just think staying until the convention is pointless.
Let's see what happens on Sunday night. Biden surge over the past two weeks came from out of the blue and for very specific reason. Biden will never generate the type of excitement needed to defeat Trump, just like Hillary.
There is no doubt that people want a M4A system. The exit polls and every other poll supports that. Bernie's policies are more heavily supported than Biden's. But if you have an argument to the contrary, I'd love to read it.
En garde
I'm not arguing that people don't prefer Bernie's policies to Biden's.
I'm saying that nobody but Bernie's base truly cares about policy in this election.
I think the voting totals more than makes that case
HarthorneWingo wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:Report from Florida
Still has not sunk in to everyone here what is happening
Just got back from Walmart where you could buy almost any product though a few things were almost cleaned out. I wanted zinc tabs and they were gone.
But plenty of fresh veggies and fruits.
The rice was almost all gone. Lots of pasta sold
pretty busy, not panicky, just everyone was super conscious of not bumping into each other
Time for fake sneezing
HarthorneWingo wrote:GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Let's see what happens on Sunday night. Biden surge over the past two weeks came from out of the blue and for very specific reason. Biden will never generate the type of excitement needed to defeat Trump, just like Hillary.
There is no doubt that people want a M4A system. The exit polls and every other poll supports that. Bernie's policies are more heavily supported than Biden's. But if you have an argument to the contrary, I'd love to read it.
En garde
I'm not arguing that people don't prefer Bernie's policies to Biden's.
I'm saying that nobody but Bernie's base truly cares about policy in this election.
I think the voting totals more than makes that case
I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.
I want to beat Trump too. But I think that running the same kind of establishment candidate that lost the last time him is not very savvy. It also risks frustrating the base of the Party that feels like it doesn't have a voice. I don't know any election were the winner won without energizing the base. I heard a recent story where one of George W. Bush's campaign advisors admitted that they were more fearful of Howard Dean than John Kerry in '04 bc Dean was holding massive rallies at the time whereas Kerry was the DNC pick who they were less concerned about. Look what happened.
Clyde_Style wrote:I made a point of visibly scratching my groin and then handling everything in the vicinity very clumsily
Clyde_Style wrote:B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Clyde_Style wrote:
It's the Monster Mash with Biden as Dracula, Sanders as the Mummy and Trump as the Blob.
Lucky for us Tulsi will never get that chance so I'll spare you my spiel on how ludicrous I find her.
Actually - as a non-US-voter - I'm interested in your take on Tulsi. I'd be very interested in your spiel on her.
I'll limit it to one thing I find disturbing. I see her affiliation with Modi and Hindu Nationalists dovetailed with her seeming Islamophobia. What is happening in India now is frightening. There were state sanctioned pogroms right in New Delhi recently. It is well known many American Hindus support Trump. Her supposed hard to pin down political identity is not really that hard to identify once you compartmentalize her approach to domestic policy vs. foreign policy. She may be progressive on some things (even though she was a rabid anti-gay advocate at the start of her career), but she also has some very strange political bedfellows (including Assad). She has not convinced me she won't use her religious views for political ends that are potentially dangerous. I don't even have a particular issue with her background in a cult (her guru is a guy named Butler was a Hare Krishna and then started his own group now associated with Vaishna Hinduism), but I see a fundamentalist aspect to her that could become toxic if she become a successful populist. I don't trust her.
HarthorneWingo wrote:GONYK wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:
Let's see what happens on Sunday night. Biden surge over the past two weeks came from out of the blue and for very specific reason. Biden will never generate the type of excitement needed to defeat Trump, just like Hillary.
There is no doubt that people want a M4A system. The exit polls and every other poll supports that. Bernie's policies are more heavily supported than Biden's. But if you have an argument to the contrary, I'd love to read it.
En garde
I'm not arguing that people don't prefer Bernie's policies to Biden's.
I'm saying that nobody but Bernie's base truly cares about policy in this election.
I think the voting totals more than makes that case
I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.
I want to beat Trump too. But I think that running the same kind of establishment candidate that lost the last time him is not very savvy. It also risks frustrating the base of the Party that feels like it doesn't have a voice. I don't know any election were the winner won without energizing the base. I heard a recent story where one of George W. Bush's campaign advisors admitted that they were more fearful of Howard Dean than John Kerry in '04 bc Dean was holding massive rallies at the time whereas Kerry was the DNC pick who they were less concerned about. Look what happened.
