OT: The Official Coronavirus thread - Be well, be safe

[HarthorneWingo]

I'm not arguing that people don't prefer Bernie's policies to Biden's.

I'm saying that nobody but Bernie's base truly cares about policy in this election.

I think the voting totals more than makes that case

I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.

I want to beat Trump too. But I think that running the same kind of establishment candidate that lost the last time him is not very savvy. It also risks frustrating the base of the Party that feels like it doesn't have a voice. I don't know any election were the winner won without energizing the base. I heard a recent story where one of George W. Bush's campaign advisors admitted that they were more fearful of Howard Dean than John Kerry in '04 bc Dean was holding massive rallies at the time whereas Kerry was the DNC pick who they were less concerned about. Look what happened.

The base of the Democratic party are the Biden voters, not the Bernie voters though.

Perhaps you're right. But if you are, then that's sad for our country because the center has been pulled all the way to the right over the last 40 years so that being a "centrist" Democrat is, in essence, being an old school Republican, i.e. social liberal, fiscally conservative. That will not energize young voters, i.e. under 40. I don't think Biden can win the election without them. Do you?

[GONYK]

I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.

I want to beat Trump too. But I think that running the same kind of establishment candidate that lost the last time him is not very savvy. It also risks frustrating the base of the Party that feels like it doesn't have a voice. I don't know any election were the winner won without energizing the base. I heard a recent story where one of George W. Bush's campaign advisors admitted that they were more fearful of Howard Dean than John Kerry in '04 bc Dean was holding massive rallies at the time whereas Kerry was the DNC pick who they were less concerned about. Look what happened.

The base of the Democratic party are the Biden voters, not the Bernie voters though.

Perhaps you're right. But if you are, then that's sad for our country because the center has been pulled all the way to the right over the last 40 years so that being a "centrist" Democrat is, in essence, being an old school Republican, i.e. social liberal, fiscally conservative. That will not energize young voters, i.e. under 40. I don't think Biden can win the election without them. Do you?

Well, they generally aren't a reliable vote, so yes I think he can.

I'd prefer that we don't try and find out though.

I do think he will pick a VP that will engage them though. He has to run up turnout as high as possible.

[HarthorneWingo]

The base of the Democratic party are the Biden voters, not the Bernie voters though.

Perhaps you're right. But if you are, then that's sad for our country because the center has been pulled all the way to the right over the last 40 years so that being a "centrist" Democrat is, in essence, being an old school Republican, i.e. social liberal, fiscally conservative. That will not energize young voters, i.e. under 40. I don't think Biden can win the election without them. Do you?

Well, they generally aren't a reliable vote, so yes I think he can.

I'd prefer that we don't try and find out though.

I do think he will pick a VP that will engage them though. He has to run up turnout as high as possible.

One would think though I've read a lot of headlines about a Biden/Klobuchar ticket which isn't very inspiring.

[HarthorneWingo]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

[Iron Mantis]

"Italian officials said 250 people have died from the coronavirus in the last 24 hours, marking a record number of deaths from the illness within such a timespan. "

WTH?

[aq_ua]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

That’s sad. Some people feel the need to blame someone for the disease, so might as well make it racial. This is just of those periods that helps you learn about the true tendencies of some folk.

[gavran]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

That’s sad. Some people feel the need to blame someone for the disease, so might as well make it racial. This is just of those periods that helps you learn about the true tendencies of some folk.

I love, how in this story we know nothing about their reasons of cancellation, therefore they are racist.

[aq_ua]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

That’s sad. Some people feel the need to blame someone for the disease, so might as well make it racial. This is just of those periods that helps you learn about the true tendencies of some folk.

I love, how in this story we know nothing about their reasons of cancellation, therefore they are racist.

Because racism is a myth and we haven’t seen any examples of people exhibiting this behavior, no matter how thinly veiled. But yeah, healthy skepticism, because that sounds smart.

[gavran]

That’s sad. Some people feel the need to blame someone for the disease, so might as well make it racial. This is just of those periods that helps you learn about the true tendencies of some folk.

I love, how in this story we know nothing about their reasons of cancellation, therefore they are racist.

Because racism is a myth and we haven’t seen any examples of people exhibiting this behavior, no matter how thinly veiled. But yeah, healthy skepticism, because that sounds smart.

Sarcasm and straw man don't go together.

[thebuzzardman]

How dare he!

Doesn't he realize it OUR president's job to blame THEIR government for the virus?

The nerve.

[thebuzzardman]

Who'll win this Democratic race, is anyone's guess.

It's funny how the right wing was able to insert "the democrats are so old" into mainstream discourse, yet their candidate is a 73 old in poor health who needs a ton of speed to just hit baseline functioning.

Joke is still funny though.

[duetta]

I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.

And I think that most Sanders supporters are ignorant of history - of how "revolutionary" movements tend to go wrong and lead to nothing but the ultimate empowerment of the elites that you were attempting to overthrow. I think that they also tend to completely ignore the authentic dynamics of human nature - how some of us are naturally altruistic while others are profoundly selfish, with the rest of us distributed in-between, and imagine that "re-education" efforts (mostly at the point of a gun) can permanently change deeply held psychological traits.

Everyone knows that we need a profound economic change in this country, but everyone with a brain should also know that utopian movements tend to end up consuming themselves - and we shouldn't want that for the United States. The French Revolution began with idealism and ended with Napoleon and the restoration of Louis Phillipe. The Russian Revolution ended with Stalin and the Gulags. The Chinese with Mao and the Cultural Revolution.

We had a choice in 2020 - to support a candidate spouting revolutionary nonsense or one framing a series of innovations to capitalism that would have realistically reversed the Reagan devolution. The left chose nonsense - and now it will get Biden. They should feel lucky that they paid so small a price for their strategic idiocy.

[Rasho Brezec]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

Breaking off any direct social contacts with people outside of your household is the morally responsible thing to do.

[KnicksGadfly]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

I appreciate this a lot. I'm telling all my Asian friends to watch their backs in NYC.

[movingon]

Exactly! I'm in Europe, so we're a bit farther along than you are in the US.
But if I was you, I'd start breaking off social engagements with everyone outside of your direct family, Asian or otherwise!
I'm surprised people are still talking about going to hang out with their friends.
Video chat them or something.

Breaking off any direct social contacts with people outside of your household is the morally responsible thing to do.

[TruthBeTold]

I took a Friday night subway ride and was like WTF! Best subway ride ever. I had 2 seats to myself and no one was blocking the door when I was getting out the car. I didn't even have to go to the front of the train. The subway is so much better when fewer people are using it. In all seriousness, I really hope things go back to normal soon. I need my sports!

[HarthorneWingo]

I think that's right. There's also the fact that most of Biden's supporters tend to watch and read the MSM news outlets which are clearly more supportive of the establishment candidates from the beginning of the election.

And I think that most Sanders supporters are ignorant of history - of how "revolutionary" movements tend to go wrong and lead to nothing but the ultimate empowerment of the elites that you were attempting to overthrow. I think that they also tend to completely ignore the authentic dynamics of human nature - how some of us are naturally altruistic while others are profoundly selfish, with the rest of us distributed in-between, and imagine that "re-education" efforts (mostly at the point of a gun) can permanently change deeply held psychological traits.

Everyone knows that we need a profound economic change in this country, but everyone with a brain should also know that utopian movements tend to end up consuming themselves - and we shouldn't want that for the United States. The French Revolution began with idealism and ended with Napoleon and the restoration of Louis Phillipe. The Russian Revolution ended with Stalin and the Gulags. The Chinese with Mao and the Cultural Revolution.

We had a choice in 2020 - to support a candidate spouting revolutionary nonsense or one framing a series of innovations to capitalism that would have realistically reversed the Reagan devolution. The left chose nonsense - and now it will get Biden. They should feel lucky that they paid so small a price for their strategic idiocy.

So says the Wall Street investment bankster. You hate Bernie. Got it.

[HarthorneWingo]

I took a Friday night subway right and was like WTF! Best subway ride ever. I had 2 seats to myself and no one was blocking the door when I was getting out the car. I didn't even have to go to the front of the train. The subway is so much better when fewer people are using it. In all seriousness, I really hope things go back to normal soon. I need my sports!

Glad you enjoyed it. Subways are breeding grounds for germs and viruses. I’d stay off them for now, if possible.

[TruthBeTold]

I took a Friday night subway right and was like WTF! Best subway ride ever. I had 2 seats to myself and no one was blocking the door when I was getting out the car. I didn't even have to go to the front of the train. The subway is so much better when fewer people are using it. In all seriousness, I really hope things go back to normal soon. I need my sports!

Glad you enjoyed it. Subways are breeding grounds for germs and viruses. I’d stay off them for now, if possible.

Yeah, I totally agree!

[HarthorneWingo]

Here's a story:

A young married woman in my neighborhood is among a group of locals in the hood who get our dogs together. She's a teacher in Queens at a predominantly Asian school. While we got our dogs together late this afternoon, I asked if she and her husband had any plans for the weekend. She told that they did have plans to get together with another couple for dinner but that THEY BACKED OUT because of the C-virus. So I'm like, ohhhh, they know you work at the school with the Asian kids? Then I told here, "That's racism by association!"

I refuse to let this virus - and the associative racism it engenders - keep me out of Chinese restaurants or hanging out with my neighbor who works with Asians.

It's crazy. Both Justin Trudeau's and Tom Hanks's wives each have the virus. But I don't see too many Asians with it.

I appreciate this a lot. I'm telling all my Asian friends to watch their backs in NYC.

Tell your Asian friends in NYC that the OG move is for them to close Chinatown to all non-Asians. The reverse quarantine.