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Re: Shams: The season is suspended. 

Post#321 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:01 am

pepe1991 wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:It's pointless to continue this season.
Let's say this situation lasts for 5 weeks, it will take weeks for players to get into playing shape because non of them can really work out right now. So here we are in may, with 20 regular season games to play + playoffs. Season will end when ? in July?

Also how can it be regular now when one of playoff teams suffered through situation with two of their best players. Can they still transmit virus even after they are tested negative? Does anybody really wants to play aginst them?

they can work out. They can work out individually at practice facilities. And the higher paid players have home gyms.

if this doesnt go on too long, i bet they do the playoffs.


Gyms and training facilities are easly the worst places to go during viral virus. You work with leather ball that "holds" onto virus better than most other objects, you swet like crazy.

Teams are expected to receive more guidance from the league regarding where players should go (some live in cities outside their market) and how to stay in shape.

The Denver Nuggets decided to shut down their facility for the next three-four days and are asking everyone to self-quarantine. The Chicago Bulls also stopped basketball operations activities "for the next few days as a proactive measure to social distance."

Some teams are also scheduled to meet with players for updates, and other teams have told employees they can work from home.


Again, main issue with coronavirus is that part of population , like Gobert, will get one, have no clear symthoms, and just spread it to others.

As for playoffs, seeding is a mess, epecially on the West. They need to make decision how many regular season games will teams play. Not 82, that's for sure now.

And virus is spreading like a wildfire. In France, few days ago they had 200 tested positive subjects, this morning 3660.
China had first Covid-19 positive people in November. Took it 4 mounths for pandemia to slow down.
Rest of the world is just catching first wave. Let's hope, unlike Spanish flue, there won't be second.

I don't want to be person who calls out others, but let's not be naive. Whole mess happend because of comunist politic of China that tried to hush and censor- their doctors. Doctor Ai Fen figured after deaths of her coliges that new strain of sars ( at least that's what she thought ) is being transmited from person to person. She even went to public, but China tried to literally delite everything from existence of it. IT was in late December of 2019. Here we are now, in 2020, 3 months later, catching results of comunist propaganda and censorship of media.. Most ironic part of it is fact that NBA basically can't exist any more without China... Much like economy of most of the world.
I agree with you, gyms spread more germs than any other place. I know I've contracted flu like symptoms a few times after going to gyms. As soon as this coronavirus thing started I knew i wouldn't be going for a while.

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Re: Shams: The season is suspended. 

Post#322 » by pepe1991 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:19 am

CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now
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Post#323 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:24 am

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He says conservatively over 480k deaths over the next 3-7 months. Keep in mind that we might not have a vaccine for 18 months and may have another spike next fall and winter.

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Post#324 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:26 am

pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now
That's the same number Ive been seeing for a while. This thing will change our lives for a while. I can't see the NBA coming back until maybe 2022.

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Re: Shams: The season is suspended. 

Post#325 » by pepe1991 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:27 am

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pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now
That's the same number Ive been seeing for a while. This thing will change our lives for a while. I can't see the NBA coming back until maybe 2022.

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Depending how summer time will go and will virus survive higher temperatures.
But i simply can't see this season being finished.
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Re: Shams: The season is suspended. 

Post#326 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:30 am

pepe1991 wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now
That's the same number Ive been seeing for a while. This thing will change our lives for a while. I can't see the NBA coming back until maybe 2022.

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Depending how summer time will go and will virus survive higher temperatures.
But i simply can't see this season being finished.
Hopefully somehow they can work it out. I know everyone, players, owners, tv networks, all want to make money.

In the midst of 100's of thousands of people dying it'll be hard.

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Post#327 » by spinedoc » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:54 am

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thelead wrote:I, and the stock market, like what the government is doing in this press conference


C'mon man. I just said no more politics and you liked the post.


I think it's really unreasonable to believe that you can avoid politics while having an honest discussion about this problem (or many others). Almost everything is about politics in some way or another. It is the mechanism by which we effect change or deal with problems at a societal level. If the leadership is failing to react, or outright deceiving the populace to promote their own self-interests, I just don't see how you can prohibit the discussion of it for fear of inciting the more tribalistic among us.

I detest how frequently political discussions about societal dysfunctions devolve into tribalism (democrat vs. republican, right vs. left, conservative vs. liberal). The range of views to societal problems are never discrete or binary, though they are often painted as such by those that wish to consolidate a constituency or manufacture consent for their own benefit.

It's taken me days to catch up on this thread, but I have only observed one individual in the thread that has been tainting this topic. Said individual has stated that they lacked knowledge about this topic, but that didn't prevent said individual from castigating others for overreacting to it. Said individual then further incited by insinuating that those that disagreed with his perspective were motivated by a political agenda. That's not politics. That's tribalism. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Call out and punish the tribalism, but don't censor a healthy discussion. Political discussion is healthy and necessary.


Well said, I think it needed to be quoted. Its up to us to keep our cool and try to reach out, maybe, just maybe, we effect someone else's life that will have a ripple effect on others. If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. It would be nice if we all could shine a light on ignorance and promote positive change. I believe it can make a difference.
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Post#328 » by tiderulz » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:04 pm

pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now


I believe it comes faster than that. These guys are already doing animal testing

https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/sk/coronavirus-vaccine-made-in-saskatchewan-is-now-in-the-testing-stages?fbclid=IwAR1LmZHUHRgDlu2-Sn4RNVY7J_hpNOPKuNroWXB5Z9MVELycpfh2K4DJdF0
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Post#329 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:46 pm

So I was traveling yesterday. That was my first experience at the airport or on a flight during the pandemic.

Prime time flights were about 30% full. Parents were screaming at their kids to “TOUCH NOTHING” on the plane. People came in and immediately did a deep cleaning or practically laid down a tarp.

I have been pretty serious about this but boy I felt under prepared next to these people ...
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Post#330 » by PrimeThyme » Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:04 pm

pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now

It just makes you wonder how long this could go on. People are talking about when this season will resume, but at this point, I think we need to even consider the fact that next season could be in jeopardy as well. At least a good part of it. I cannot envision a world where the NBA or any other major sporting events resume before August && I can't see players playing this season if they are not under contract.
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Post#331 » by The Real Dalic » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:23 pm

tiderulz wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now


I believe it comes faster than that. These guys are already doing animal testing

https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/sk/coronavirus-vaccine-made-in-saskatchewan-is-now-in-the-testing-stages?fbclid=IwAR1LmZHUHRgDlu2-Sn4RNVY7J_hpNOPKuNroWXB5Z9MVELycpfh2K4DJdF0

Yeah, I can see it being a couple of months before they start making real progress towards figuring this thing out. Pretty much all of the top medical experts around the entire world are working on this. There are too many smart people out there to not get it done fairly quickly.
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Post#332 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:55 pm

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tiderulz wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations Dr Richard Hatchett said during interview for UK that he can't see vaceen being invented and produced out there in sooner than 18 months from now


I believe it comes faster than that. These guys are already doing animal testing

https://www.narcity.com/news/ca/sk/coronavirus-vaccine-made-in-saskatchewan-is-now-in-the-testing-stages?fbclid=IwAR1LmZHUHRgDlu2-Sn4RNVY7J_hpNOPKuNroWXB5Z9MVELycpfh2K4DJdF0

Yeah, I can see it being a couple of months before they start making real progress towards figuring this thing out. Pretty much all of the top medical experts around the entire world are working on this. There are too many smart people out there to not get it done fairly quickly.


Did you read the article?

While it could take up to a year to complete, CJWW has confirmed with the University of Saskatchewan’s Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre that the vaccine is now being tested on animals.

As of now, there is no timeline as to when it could be ready for human use.


They’re talking as much as a year just to get through basic testing and with no time table for human testing and then you have to find a way to mass product and distribute it.

18 months seems about right considering this is just one lab and there is probably a better one out there.
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Post#333 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:17 pm

I'm surprised more doctors aren't advising to supplement with d and zinc.


https://www.who.int/elena/titles/commentary/vitamind_pneumonia_children/en/


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Post#334 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:49 pm

basketballRob wrote:I'm surprised more doctors aren't advising to supplement with d and zinc.


https://www.who.int/elena/titles/commentary/vitamind_pneumonia_children/en/


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I’m not a medical doctor but I have seen this garbage about Zinc and the Corona virus flood the internet recently and I have seen plenty of what appear to be qualified sources shoot it down just as fast. That lack of medical doctors advising it should also be justification.

There is no harm is using Zinc lozenges for their general use but telling people they will can, will or might prevent contraction of the COVID 19 is wrong and harmful.
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Post#335 » by tiderulz » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:51 pm

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Yeah, I can see it being a couple of months before they start making real progress towards figuring this thing out. Pretty much all of the top medical experts around the entire world are working on this. There are too many smart people out there to not get it done fairly quickly.


Did you read the article?

While it could take up to a year to complete, CJWW has confirmed with the University of Saskatchewan’s Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre that the vaccine is now being tested on animals.

As of now, there is no timeline as to when it could be ready for human use.


They’re talking as much as a year just to get through basic testing and with no time table for human testing and then you have to find a way to mass product and distribute it.

18 months seems about right considering this is just one lab and there is probably a better one out there.

i look at it the other way. You are right, this is just 1 lab and there are most definitely better ones out there. But the fact they have already moved to animal testing. You can guarantee any country is going to fast track any red tape regarding process for testing and creating a vaccine for this. i just personally dont believe it will take 18 months.
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Post#336 » by Ducklett » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:04 pm

tiderulz wrote:
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The Real Dalic wrote:Yeah, I can see it being a couple of months before they start making real progress towards figuring this thing out. Pretty much all of the top medical experts around the entire world are working on this. There are too many smart people out there to not get it done fairly quickly.


Did you read the article?

While it could take up to a year to complete, CJWW has confirmed with the University of Saskatchewan’s Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization-International Vaccine Centre that the vaccine is now being tested on animals.

As of now, there is no timeline as to when it could be ready for human use.


They’re talking as much as a year just to get through basic testing and with no time table for human testing and then you have to find a way to mass product and distribute it.

18 months seems about right considering this is just one lab and there is probably a better one out there.

i look at it the other way. You are right, this is just 1 lab and there are most definitely better ones out there. But the fact they have already moved to animal testing. You can guarantee any country is going to fast track any red tape regarding process for testing and creating a vaccine for this. i just personally dont believe it will take 18 months.


https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/techandscience/coronavirus-pandemic-israeli-scientists-reach-major-breakthrough-in-vaccine/ar-BB115Da1

I guess there are groups who are claiming it is fake/false however. This whole situation is nuts.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-13/china-japan-korea-coronavirus-reinfection-test-positive

This was being reported ~3 months ago and was shut down off facebook/twitter as "fake news". Just be careful guys. We still don't know anything about this virus and when people are confused they get crazy and stupid.
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Post#337 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:51 pm

For this who might still believe all of this is an over reaction or even a hoax:

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927193/-UCSF-COVID-19-Panel-Notes
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Post#338 » by basketballRob » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:58 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I'm surprised more doctors aren't advising to supplement with d and zinc.


https://www.who.int/elena/titles/commentary/vitamind_pneumonia_children/en/


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I’m not a medical doctor but I have seen this garbage about Zinc and the Corona virus flood the internet recently and I have seen plenty of what appear to be qualified sources shoot it down just as fast. That lack of medical doctors advising it should also be justification.

There is no harm is using Zinc lozenges for their general use but telling people they will can, will or might prevent contraction of the COVID 19 is wrong and harmful.
They are using a combination of zinc and a malaria drug to fight it in South Korea.

I don't think it prevents you from getting it. It does help build you immunity and has been linked to fighting other respiratory viruses.

I haven't saw anyone say use it to prevent it or anything. I just made my own analytical judgement on what supplements that might help fight this. I've never tried the lozenges.

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Post#339 » by tiderulz » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:03 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:For this who might still believe all of this is an over reaction or even a hoax:

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2020/3/13/1927193/-UCSF-COVID-19-Panel-Notes

not understanding the point of this. just a repeat of a lot of data already out there from a political website/blog
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Post#340 » by tiderulz » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:07 pm

basketballRob wrote:
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basketballRob wrote:I'm surprised more doctors aren't advising to supplement with d and zinc.


https://www.who.int/elena/titles/commentary/vitamind_pneumonia_children/en/


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I’m not a medical doctor but I have seen this garbage about Zinc and the Corona virus flood the internet recently and I have seen plenty of what appear to be qualified sources shoot it down just as fast. That lack of medical doctors advising it should also be justification.

There is no harm is using Zinc lozenges for their general use but telling people they will can, will or might prevent contraction of the COVID 19 is wrong and harmful.
They are using a combination of zinc and a malaria drug to fight it in South Korea.

I don't think it prevents you from getting it. It does help build you immunity and has been linked to fighting other respiratory viruses.

I haven't saw anyone say use it to prevent it or anything. I just made my own analytical judgement on what supplements that might help fight this. I've never tried the lozenges.

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to be fair, you said there was a youtube video of people talking about Zinc being used to prevent it.

basketballRob wrote:There is a YouTube video about how zinc can help prevent getting it but i can't figure out how to post it with my phone.

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