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Post#541 » by steger_3434 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:07 am

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steger_3434 wrote:Trumps test came back negative. But all I heard is how sick he looked, how dumb he was being in public, etc. the panic people have is incredible. So many are acting like this is the virus in the movie outbreak


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You do know thousands have died worldwide, right ?

I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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Post#542 » by HollowEarth » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:17 am

steger_3434 wrote:We know who is most susceptible to intensive care or death over this right? We are trying to flatten the curve, not limit total infections according to the graph. So why try to isolate the 95% of America that won’t need urgent care. Shouldn’t we basically be trying to keep the elderly and compromised immune system people in. Those types of people don’t go out as much or work as much anyways. Isolate them to keep them safe. Let this thing run its course as fast as it can with the people who, 99.9% of the time, have no problem fighting it themselves.


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It limits the spread of the virus. This limits the number of people who become seriously ill or die. It reduces the burden on the healthcare system. It creates more time to develop a vaccine. Vaccines take a year to get onto the market. It might be next January before a coronavirus shot is available.

That said, vulnerable people should be acting differently:
To some degree, the sorts of things you should be doing right now depend on who you are. Are you someone at higher risk, like over age 60, or someone with a chronic medical condition like heart disease, diabetes or lung disease? Do you often come into contact with someone with those conditions? Are you exhibiting any Covid-19 symptoms, like fever, cough, or shortness of breath? Have you been in contact with anyone who has? Check any of those boxes, and you might want to be more careful about where you go and who you interact with.

But “if you feel pretty sure that those answers to those questions are ‘no,’ you can get together [with others with similar answers] and play board games,” says Katie Colborn, a biostatistician and assistant professor at the University of Colorado at Denver.

https://www.wired.com/story/elegant-mathematics-social-distancing/


Here's the math for closing down big events like March Madness from the article that Wired links over to:
In this scenario, the probability that all 75,000 attendees would have entered Mercedes Benz stadium disease-free is like placing 75,000 bets each at nearly certain odds. Sure, you’ll win most of the bets. But the probability that you will win every single one of those bets is extremely low. To calculate it, we multiply the winning probability (1-1/16500) by itself 75,000 times and find that there is approximately a 1% chance that we win every time. In other words, the chances that one or more attendees would have arrived infected with SARS-CoV-2 is 99%.

https://www.ajc.com/blog/get-schooled/scientists-the-math-show-how-large-events-like-march-madness-could-spread-coronavirus/g1pVdzQgJS5aoPnadBqyXO/
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Re: Semi-OT: Coronavirus Discussion Thread II (Info post 1) 

Post#543 » by Slacktard » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:18 am

steger_3434 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Trumps test came back negative. But all I heard is how sick he looked, how dumb he was being in public, etc. the panic people have is incredible. So many are acting like this is the virus in the movie outbreak


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You do know thousands have died worldwide, right ?

I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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You got it all solved. Tons of viral and disease experts many dozens of countries, they are all just panicing needlessly. T he world needs to look to the "experts" on a basketball forum...

This is no hoax. Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Norway, Iran, etc... Have not gotten together and making **** up to have Trump look bad. This is a legitimately scary threat that could cause substantial deaths if serious and necesarry restrictions are placed.
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Post#544 » by rapstarter » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:20 am

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Post#545 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:22 am

steger_3434 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Trumps test came back negative. But all I heard is how sick he looked, how dumb he was being in public, etc. the panic people have is incredible. So many are acting like this is the virus in the movie outbreak


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You do know thousands have died worldwide, right ?

I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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Because it's about stopping it from lasting months, it took China 25 days to arrive at 60k infections. With exponential growth what do you think that number would have been at 260 days? The more infections the more strain it puts on the Healthcare system, the more people who need to visit the ICU can't because they're taken, it's a cascading problem that builds on itself.

You would think on a forum where numbers are discussed so often that people would understand exponential growth.

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Re: Semi-OT: Coronavirus Discussion Thread II (Info post 1) 

Post#546 » by steger_3434 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:23 am

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You do know thousands have died worldwide, right ?

I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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You got it all solved. Tons of viral and disease experts many dozens of countries, they are all just panicing needlessly. T he world needs to look to the "experts" on a basketball forum...

My original post was about panic. He responded about thousands of deaths in which I said thousands compared to 7.5 billion isn’t a lot. My original post was limiting panic. No expert has said to panic. Yet go outside to a grocery store or look online. Panic is there


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Post#547 » by steger_3434 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:

You do know thousands have died worldwide, right ?

I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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Because it's about stopping it from lasting months, it took China 25 days to arrive at 60k infections. With exponential growth what do you think that number would have been at 260 days? The more infections the more strain it puts on the Healthcare system, the more people who need to visit the ICU can't because they're taken, it's a cascading problem that builds on itself.

You would think on a forum where numbers are discussed so often that people would understand exponential growth.

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Look at the cdc graph. The graph shows lowering the curve, not stopping the length. The graph actually shows a spike making it last a shorter length of time but killing our healthcare system. The cdc graph has us lowering the curve resulting in making this last longer


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Post#548 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:30 am

Wonder if they'll suspend court.

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Post#549 » by Hook_Em » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:34 am

Thanks a lot China.
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Post#550 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:34 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:I also know there are 7.5 billion people on this planet. Death sucks, but it’s going to happen. Malaria is “under control” but still killing thousands by the day. 5000 people dying sounds huge to a town or state or even a country over a few days. 5000 people dying over the entire world is not a lot


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Because it's about stopping it from lasting months, it took China 25 days to arrive at 60k infections. With exponential growth what do you think that number would have been at 260 days? The more infections the more strain it puts on the Healthcare system, the more people who need to visit the ICU can't because they're taken, it's a cascading problem that builds on itself.

You would think on a forum where numbers are discussed so often that people would understand exponential growth.

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Look at the cdc graph. The graph shows lowering the curve, not stopping the length. The graph actually shows a spike making it last a shorter length of time but killing our healthcare system. The cdc graph has us lowering the curve resulting in making this last longer


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Lowering the curve? We aren't testing enough for any data from the CDC to be reliable, when/if they ever start testing hundreds of thousands per day the infection rate will moon.
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Post#551 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:37 am

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Looking at this is pretty clear, if you remove the super spreaders ie. mobile young people, you protect the older population by default.
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Post#552 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:39 am

If the NBA comes back they'll probably check everyone's temperature at the door and refuse entry to those who have one.



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Post#554 » by basketballRob » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:41 am

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Looking at this is pretty clear, if you remove the super spreaders ie. mobile young people, you protect the older population by default.
We're testing like the Italians. No wonder South Korea has a low death rate, they're testing the young people too.

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Post#555 » by Trader_Joe » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:47 am

Put this in another thread but this is more active...

I'm not sure I understand the point of testing at this point. Shouldn't we all assume/act like we have it?

If you test positive, okay, but that means you've had it and been spreading it in theory. If you test negative, won't that lead to a false sense of security and lead to the continuation of risky behavior?

It seems the biggest culprit are people that have it, are asymptomatic but contagious. Asymptomatic aren't getting or even can't get tested.

To me the only logical thing to do is self quarantine until we have a better hold on things and/or medical advancement such as a cure, vaccine or other developments are made which should come in time.

But at the same time mass testing has helped South Korea immensely.

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Post#556 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:55 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Put this in another thread but this is more active...

I'm not sure I understand the point of testing at this point. Shouldn't we all assume/act like we have it?

If you test positive, okay, but that means you've had it and been spreading it in theory. If you test negative, won't that lead to a false sense of security and lead to the continuation of risky behavior?

It seems the biggest culprit are people that have it, are asymptomatic but contagious. Asymptomatic aren't getting or even can't get tested.

To me the only logical thing to do is self quarantine until we have a better hold on things and/or medical advancement such as a cure, vaccine or other developments are made which should come in time.

But at the same time mass testing has helped South Korea immensely.

Confusing and scary times.



We should test everyone, Americans won't act unless it directly affects them. If someone finds out they're positive they may be less selfish, maybe. Instead of thinking they can tough out the cough, finding out you're positive and by doing that you could infect your parents or grandparents may lead some to quarantine themselves.
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Post#557 » by HotRocks34 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:58 am

I thought for sure that the USA would soon be passing up some of the other nations in total positive cases, but maybe not so fast. Here are total cases and new cases in the last 24-48 hours.

China ------------> 80,824 ------------------> +???
Italy --------------> 21,157 -------------> +3,497
Iran ---------------> 12,729 -------------> +1,365
South Korea -------> 8,162 ----------------> +183
Spain --------------> 6,391 --------------> +1,159
Germany ----------> 4,599 -----------------> +924
France -------------> 4,469 -----------------> +808

USA ----------------> 2,836 -----------------> +589


The USA will almost certainly end up near the top of the list because of its large population and with massive testing on the way, but Europe is on fire with this disease.
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Post#558 » by HollowEarth » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:58 am

Trader_Joe wrote:Put this in another thread but this is more active...

I'm not sure I understand the point of testing at this point. Shouldn't we all assume/act like we have it?

If you test positive, okay, but that means you've had it and been spreading it in theory. If you test negative, won't that lead to a false sense of security and lead to the continuation of risky behavior?

It seems the biggest culprit are people that have it, are asymptomatic but contagious. Asymptomatic aren't getting or even can't get tested.

To me the only logical thing to do is self quarantine until we have a better hold on things and/or medical advancement such as a cure, vaccine or other developments are made which should come in time.

But at the same time mass testing has helped South Korea immensely.

Confusing and scary times.
I'm still going to work and socializing with a small circle of friends/family. If I tested positive, I definitely would not be going to work.
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Post#559 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:59 am

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Post#560 » by azcatz11 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:59 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Trader_Joe wrote:Put this in another thread but this is more active...

I'm not sure I understand the point of testing at this point. Shouldn't we all assume/act like we have it?

If you test positive, okay, but that means you've had it and been spreading it in theory. If you test negative, won't that lead to a false sense of security and lead to the continuation of risky behavior?

It seems the biggest culprit are people that have it, are asymptomatic but contagious. Asymptomatic aren't getting or even can't get tested.

To me the only logical thing to do is self quarantine until we have a better hold on things and/or medical advancement such as a cure, vaccine or other developments are made which should come in time.

But at the same time mass testing has helped South Korea immensely.

Confusing and scary times.



We should test everyone, Americans won't act unless it directly affects them. If someone finds out they're positive they may be less selfish, maybe. Instead of thinking they can tough out the cough, finding out you're positive and by doing that you could infect your parents or grandparents may lead some to quarantine themselves.


I think a lot more people are 'getting it.' I was a self-admitted denier at one point but not anymore. I think there are a lot of folks like me who initially thought this was a joke but who are now acting in best interest for society.
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