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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#481 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:43 am

Dantares wrote:Is it too extreme if I go to the store with bleach wipes and wipe down all the canned goods and boxes of rice and pasta before I put them in my cart?


No. It's perfectly rational at this point. Do it if it makes you feel safe. I carry anti-bacterial gel with me and today I put it on my card after it came out of the ATM.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#482 » by spree8 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:12 am

Dantares wrote:Is it too extreme if I go to the store with bleach wipes and wipe down all the canned goods and boxes of rice and pasta before I put them in my cart?


Yes... I could understand wiping down an ATM or a gas pump handle before using it, but just wash your hands when you get home, or wear gloves, and wipe that stuff down when you get back. The cart could be contaminated, in addition to the conveyor belt and the cashier’s hands. Why bother doing it in the store? Plus someone can sneeze or cough and spray all that stuff you just wiped down in the store...
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#483 » by WargamesX » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:22 am

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#485 » by WargamesX » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:08 am

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#486 » by dakomish23 » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:56 am

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#487 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:30 am

"He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them"

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#488 » by GONYK » Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:24 am

Iron Mantis wrote:"He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them"

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#489 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:50 pm

Lawd, what hellish scenes are unfolding at our airports now

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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#490 » by Rasho Brezec » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:01 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Lawd, what hellish scenes are unfolding at our airports now

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Those people are probably all infected by now.
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Post#491 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:10 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:Lawd, what hellish scenes are unfolding at our airports now

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Those people are probably all infected by now.


If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#492 » by Rasho Brezec » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:24 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
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Clyde_Style wrote:Lawd, what hellish scenes are unfolding at our airports now

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Those people are probably all infected by now.


If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.

Covering up your face isn't very effective in protecting you from getting infected, it only protects those already infected from spreading it on others.

Coronavirus is about 0.05-0.2 microns in diameter, bandanas and surgical masks can't filter out particles that small. N95 respirator masks are your best bet and they can only block out up to 95% of particles 0.3 microns in diameter. But you can't get those masks anywhere anymore, every country has to keep them in stock for healthcare staff.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#493 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:35 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
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Rasho Brezec wrote:Those people are probably all infected by now.


If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.

Covering up your face isn't very effective in protecting you from getting infected, it only protects those already infected from spreading it on others.

Coronavirus is about 0.05-0.2 microns in diameter, bandanas and surgical masks can't filter out particles that small. N95 respirator masks are your best bet and they can only block out up to 95% of particles 0.3 microns in diameter. But you can't get those masks anywhere anymore, every country has to keep them in stock for healthcare staff.


Yes, I'm aware of that. I'd still be like Lucky Luke and pull that bandana up over my face.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#494 » by gavran » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:39 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:Those people are probably all infected by now.


If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.

Covering up your face isn't very effective in protecting you from getting infected, it only protects those already infected from spreading it on others.

Coronavirus is about 0.05-0.2 microns in diameter, bandanas and surgical masks can't filter out particles that small. N95 respirator masks are your best bet and they can only block out up to 95% of particles 0.3 microns in diameter. But you can't get those masks anywhere anymore, every country has to keep them in stock for healthcare staff.


Surgical masks are effective in making sure you are not touching your face directly, which all of us do 80-90 times a day involuntarely. If course If someone sneezes is your face, they are useless.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#495 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:41 pm

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If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.

Covering up your face isn't very effective in protecting you from getting infected, it only protects those already infected from spreading it on others.

Coronavirus is about 0.05-0.2 microns in diameter, bandanas and surgical masks can't filter out particles that small. N95 respirator masks are your best bet and they can only block out up to 95% of particles 0.3 microns in diameter. But you can't get those masks anywhere anymore, every country has to keep them in stock for healthcare staff.


Surgical masks are effective in making sure you are not touching your face directly, which all of us do 80-90 times a day involuntarely. If course If someone sneezes is your face, they are useless.


Yeah, it is primarily a behavior modification tool with the barrier aspect being the secondary function
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#496 » by BallSacBounce » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:10 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:Those people are probably all infected by now.


If I was there I'd be wearing a bandana on my face and wiping myself down with anti-bacterial gel. I have no concept of how many people in that situation will contract it, because it is only communicable via surface to surface transmission, but there people are shoulder to shoulder. You rub up against someone, it lands on your sleeve, you touch your sleeve and then your face, etc. It is not airborne unless someone with it is face to face with you and they literally spray you which obviously is far more likely in these situations. Feel bad for everyone right now.

Covering up your face isn't very effective in protecting you from getting infected, it only protects those already infected from spreading it on others.

Coronavirus is about 0.05-0.2 microns in diameter, bandanas and surgical masks can't filter out particles that small. N95 respirator masks are your best bet and they can only block out up to 95% of particles 0.3 microns in diameter. But you can't get those masks anywhere anymore, every country has to keep them in stock for healthcare staff.

I have 3 cases of 3M N95. They are practically impossible to get unless you pay through the nose online.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#497 » by Zenzibar » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:15 pm

Disgusting on our behalf if true.


https://www.dw.com/en/germany-and-us-wrestle-over-coronavirus-vaccine-report/a-52777990

Germany and US wrestle over coronavirus vaccine: report
US President Donald Trump is attempting to entice a German lab to develop a vaccine exclusively for the US, a German newspaper reported. Berlin health authorities are in intensive talks with the company.

US and Germany wrestling over coronavirus vaccine
The governments of Germany and the United States are wrestling over the German-based company CureVac which is working on a vaccine for the novel coronavirus, reported German newspaper Welt am Sonntag.

The prominent German media outlet reported, citing unnamed sources, that US President Donald Trump was offering large sums of money to German scientists working on a vaccine. He wanted to secure exclusive rights to their work, the newspaper reported.
Trump was doing everything he could to secure a vaccine for the United States, "but only for the US," the newspaper quoted an anonymous German government source as saying.

The newspaper reported that the German government has tried to offer the company financial incentives to remain in Germany.
A German health ministry spokesman told Die Welt that the government was in "intensive" dialogue with CureVac.
"The German government is very interested in having the development of vaccines and treatments against the novel coronavirus undertaken in Germany and Europe," the spokesman said.


CureVac declined to comment to Die Welt. The company is based in the southwestern German city of Tübingen and works with the Paul Ehrlich Institute, linked with the German health ministry. It also has sites in Frankfurt and the US city of Boston.
On Friday, CureVac co-founder and chief production officer Florian von der Mülbe told Reuters that research into several possible vaccines had begun and the two most promising would be chosen for clinical tests. The company hoped to have an experimental vaccine developed by June or July, and then to get approval for testing on people.


On March 2, CureVac's then-CEO Daniel Menichella attended a meeting at the White House to discuss coronavirus vaccine development with Trump and members of his coronavirus taskforce.
On March 11, the company announced Menichella would be replaced by company founder Ingmar Hoerr, without giving a reason why.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#498 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:23 pm

A lot of differnt information on how long it can survive in air and on surfaces. Some studies show it can live over 3 hours in air. With that said, they don't know if it can be transmitted that way or not. A lot of unknowns. Best to be cautious

There's new evidence that the coronavirus can live on some surfaces for up to two to three days. Which surfaces? Here's NPR's Allison Aubrey.

ALLISON AUBREY, BYLINE: The new study looked at the novel coronavirus in a laboratory setting and found the virus can survive up to 72 hours on stainless steel and plastic surfaces and on cardboard up to 24 hours. Jamie Lloyd-Smith of UCLA is one of the authors.

JAMIE LLOYD-SMITH: We're talking about potentially days of infectivity on some of these surfaces.

AUBREY: The study gives a range of possible survival times, but keep in mind, in a lab, all the conditions are stable. In the real world. Factors such as sunlight can kill off viruses faster. Lloyd-Smith collaborated with scientists at the Rocky Mountain Laboratories, a federal lab, to do a series of experiments. They picked up bits of virus from surfaces that had been contaminated. They then put the virus in cell cultures to test whether it was still infectious. They also tested how long the virus remained viable in the air.

LLOYD-SMITH: What these experiments show is that the virus can remain viable floating in the air for some number of hours. The experiments went out to three hours, and, you know, there were still viable viruses present.

AUBREY: Lloyd-Smith says this experiment definitely does not prove that people have been infected this way by particles of virus that float in the air, what scientists call aerosolized transmission. He says what remains unknown is what dose is needed to infect someone.

LLOYD-SMITH: There are a lot of things we don't know, so we do not yet know how many viral particles need to get into somebody's airway to initiate an infection.

AUBREY: In all these tests, the new coronavirus tends to behave a lot like an older one, SARS, that led to an outbreak in 2003. In fact, the new study shows both viruses remain viable about the same amount of time. But that leads to an important question - why has this virus spread much more widely? Lloyd-Smith says there could be multiple reasons.

LLOYD-SMITH: Things like the apparent ability of this novel virus to be transmitted and shed by people who aren't showing severe symptoms or may not be showing symptoms at all, which makes this virus much harder to contain.

AUBREY: And given all this, the advice that we've been hearing for weeks now remains the same - wash your hands. That's still the best way to protect yourself. Allison Aubrey, NPR News.


https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815307842/research-coronavirus-can-live-for-a-long-time-in-air-on-surfaces
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Post#499 » by ccvle » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:50 pm

Just found out a friend had an unconfirmed case about a month ago. It was unconfirmed since they didnt perform any testing, but all his symptoms checked AND he had a coworker who just came back from china who was also later sick. His symptoms weren't mild at all. He had high fever and body ache for 2-3 weeks.
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Post#500 » by Kampuchea » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:56 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:Am I still allowed to go to the gym?

I went today. Most I’ve ever seen people wipe off the treadmills before and after use lol


I’m in NJ, yeah I’m definitely wiping the machines. I ordered gloves, I don’t touch my face and I use sanitizer that’s kept in my car.


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