2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 2)

[Thugger HBC]

I know most are down on Knox, but in that draft the options of a better player wasn't conclusively there.

Outside of SGA, there still isn't conclusively, and in most known drafts he wasn't higher than Knox.

I wouldn't write him off just yet.

Honestly, there's a lot of SGA hindsight folks popping out the woodworks as well. Knox was a reasonable selection. The question for me is what criteria Mills and Perry used to select Knox. How complex, how detailed, how thorough was the scouting reports on Knox vs. the other players. What was their long term plan? I mean I would imagine that unless they were absolute blithering idiots they had to have seen and maybe even planned for this past free agency period. If so, then you would think they'd have gone into the draft with more of a win now mentality. If so, then one of the Miles would have seemingly been the better selection? You know, those kinds of things.

iirc, when Knox got drafted, Mills and Perry pretty much admitted the season would be a rough one. Fiz from time to time basically alluded to it as well, calling the team a college team quite a bit.

As for the draft that year, I recall it was reported Knox wowed them in a workout or something, but he likely was their safe pick all the long.

[Worst_to_First]

:droop:

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Can watch this all day. I can totally see this kid becoming a KAT like player in offense although may not put up as much points given that he is the type who take a lot more pride in defense.

I really hope he ends up in the right team that can nurture him. It would be really awful if we pass up on him and he ends up being a stud which I don’t doubt he would be. None of the prospects in this draft has convinced me to jump off the Wiseman train which we have been since the start.

[ny-n-md]

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This is the guy I’m intrigued by for our late first rounder or a second rounder. David Blatt worked with him too which may put him on our radar.

[3toheadmelo]

:droop:

Watch on YouTube

Can watch this all day. I can totally see this kid becoming a KAT like player in offense although may not put up as much points given that he is the type who take a lot more pride in defense.

I really hope he ends up in the right team that can nurture him. It would be really awful if we pass up on him and he ends up being a stud which I don’t doubt he would be. None of the prospects in this draft has convinced me to jump off the Wiseman train which we have been since the start.

Facts. Wiseman is the definition of a unicorn. I can’t believe people don’t wanna draft him because of Mitch. That type of thinking is what gets GM’s fired.

People keep saying that bigs are dying in the league but big men are actually on the rise. Most winning teams are utilizing big men.

Bucks - Giannis and Lopez
Nuggets- Jokic
Sixers - Embiid and Horford
Heat- Bam Adebayo
Lakers- AD/Dwight/Javale
Dallas- Porzingis (Although he is not that much better than Randle)

Suns will be on that list too. When Rubio/Booker/Ayton play together, they have the highest net rating in the whole league. Ayton putting up numbers that no player his age has done since Shaq was in the league.

We really need Wiseman to battle with those big men I just named if we want to be serious about winning games. Wiseman has all the tools to be one of the best bigs in the league.

If the Knicks take someone like Coleslaw over Wiseman because they think this league is guard oriented, we’re gonna regret that for the next decade. Wiseman is the real deal.

[knickstape21]

HS mixtape lol

The disrespect for Robinson is disgusting. He’s playing this way with average to below average guard play.

[robillionaire]

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This is the guy I’m intrigued by for our late first rounder or a second rounder. David Blatt worked with him too which may put him on our radar.

11th on tankathon's big board

[robillionaire]

:droop:

Watch on YouTube

Can watch this all day. I can totally see this kid becoming a KAT like player in offense although may not put up as much points given that he is the type who take a lot more pride in defense.

I really hope he ends up in the right team that can nurture him. It would be really awful if we pass up on him and he ends up being a stud which I don’t doubt he would be. None of the prospects in this draft has convinced me to jump off the Wiseman train which we have been since the start.

Facts. Wiseman is the definition of a unicorn. I can’t believe people don’t wanna draft him because of Mitch. That type of thinking is what gets GM’s fired.

People keep saying that bigs are dying in the league but big men are actually on the rise. Most winning teams are utilizing big men.

Bucks - Giannis and Lopez
Nuggets- Jokic
Sixers - Embiid and Horford
Heat- Bam Adebayo
Lakers- AD/Dwight/Javale
Dallas- Porzingis (Although he is not that much better than Randle)

Suns will be on that list too. When Rubio/Booker/Ayton play together, they have the highest net rating in the whole league. Ayton putting up numbers that no player his age has done since Shaq was in the league.

We really need Wiseman to battle with those big men I just named if we want to be serious about winning games. Wiseman has all the tools to be one of the best bigs in the league.

If the Knicks take someone like Coleslaw over Wiseman because they think this league is guard oriented, we’re gonna regret that for the next decade. Wiseman is the real deal.

we don't have a rubio (elite playmaker) and booker (all star SG) to make whoever is playing center look better, we don't even have a real pg. unless u still waiting for frank to come around based on his 20 10 game lol. so even if we got wiseman he will just look like crap on this poorly constructed no guard roster. I agree though I'd probably take him no later than 4 or 5, definitely wouldn't take cole anthony over him

[HerSports85]

been watching Cole Anthony all weekend. Still not a huge fan but honestly, he may be a sleeper in this draft. put him with the right coach and if his shooting improves, which i think it will, he might be what we're looking for.

[Richard4444]

:droop:

Watch on YouTube

Can watch this all day. I can totally see this kid becoming a KAT like player in offense although may not put up as much points given that he is the type who take a lot more pride in defense.

I really hope he ends up in the right team that can nurture him. It would be really awful if we pass up on him and he ends up being a stud which I don’t doubt he would be. None of the prospects in this draft has convinced me to jump off the Wiseman train which we have been since the start.

Facts. Wiseman is the definition of a unicorn. I can’t believe people don’t wanna draft him because of Mitch. That type of thinking is what gets GM’s fired.

People keep saying that bigs are dying in the league but big men are actually on the rise. Most winning teams are utilizing big men.

Bucks - Giannis and Lopez
Nuggets- Jokic
Sixers - Embiid and Horford
Heat- Bam Adebayo
Lakers- AD/Dwight/Javale
Dallas- Porzingis (Although he is not that much better than Randle)

Suns will be on that list too. When Rubio/Booker/Ayton play together, they have the highest net rating in the whole league. Ayton putting up numbers that no player his age has done since Shaq was in the league.

We really need Wiseman to battle with those big men I just named if we want to be serious about winning games. Wiseman has all the tools to be one of the best bigs in the league.

If the Knicks take someone like Coleslaw over Wiseman because they think this league is guard oriented, we’re gonna regret that for the next decade. Wiseman is the real deal.

I cant compare Wiseman with Top Big Men. At least for now. He does not have range or playmaking skills. He also doesnt have a Giannis or Zion body type. Anyone could draft a tradicional big with a low pick and try to develop him.

I dont like having 3 tradicional "rookie" centers on the roster. If we draft Wiseman, I hope we trade Mitch.

[3toheadmelo]

Can watch this all day. I can totally see this kid becoming a KAT like player in offense although may not put up as much points given that he is the type who take a lot more pride in defense.

I really hope he ends up in the right team that can nurture him. It would be really awful if we pass up on him and he ends up being a stud which I don’t doubt he would be. None of the prospects in this draft has convinced me to jump off the Wiseman train which we have been since the start.

Facts. Wiseman is the definition of a unicorn. I can’t believe people don’t wanna draft him because of Mitch. That type of thinking is what gets GM’s fired.

People keep saying that bigs are dying in the league but big men are actually on the rise. Most winning teams are utilizing big men.

Bucks - Giannis and Lopez
Nuggets- Jokic
Sixers - Embiid and Horford
Heat- Bam Adebayo
Lakers- AD/Dwight/Javale
Dallas- Porzingis (Although he is not that much better than Randle)

Suns will be on that list too. When Rubio/Booker/Ayton play together, they have the highest net rating in the whole league. Ayton putting up numbers that no player his age has done since Shaq was in the league.

We really need Wiseman to battle with those big men I just named if we want to be serious about winning games. Wiseman has all the tools to be one of the best bigs in the league.

If the Knicks take someone like Coleslaw over Wiseman because they think this league is guard oriented, we’re gonna regret that for the next decade. Wiseman is the real deal.

we don't have a rubio (elite playmaker) and booker (all star SG) to make whoever is playing center look better, we don't even have a real pg. unless u still waiting for frank to come around based on his 20 10 game lol. so even if we got wiseman he will just look like crap on this poorly constructed no guard roster. I agree though I'd probably take him no later than 4 or 5, definitely wouldn't take cole anthony over him

You can still trade Mitch for a point guard. And if you want to keep Mitch as a backup big or start him next to Wiseman then no worries. Draft Kira Lewis or Tre Jones with our other picks. Or even sign Fred Van Fleet in the offseason. It is definitely possible to enter next season with a solid PG and Wiseman.

Draft Jalen Green next year and you have our Booker type of talent also. Rebuild done. Lol

[HerSports85]

Love Mitch, but if we can get Wiseman then trade Mitch for another top 5 or 10 pick. Do it.

If we jump the warriors and they still want Mitch .. I do their pick for Mitch + 2023 dallas FRP

That will be a quick and successful rebuild.

[knickstape21]

Watch on YouTube

This is the guy I’m intrigued by for our late first rounder or a second rounder. David Blatt worked with him too which may put him on our radar.

Now this right here is intriguing! Holy fluid at that size...

[robillionaire]

Facts. Wiseman is the definition of a unicorn. I can’t believe people don’t wanna draft him because of Mitch. That type of thinking is what gets GM’s fired.

People keep saying that bigs are dying in the league but big men are actually on the rise. Most winning teams are utilizing big men.

Bucks - Giannis and Lopez
Nuggets- Jokic
Sixers - Embiid and Horford
Heat- Bam Adebayo
Lakers- AD/Dwight/Javale
Dallas- Porzingis (Although he is not that much better than Randle)

Suns will be on that list too. When Rubio/Booker/Ayton play together, they have the highest net rating in the whole league. Ayton putting up numbers that no player his age has done since Shaq was in the league.

We really need Wiseman to battle with those big men I just named if we want to be serious about winning games. Wiseman has all the tools to be one of the best bigs in the league.

If the Knicks take someone like Coleslaw over Wiseman because they think this league is guard oriented, we’re gonna regret that for the next decade. Wiseman is the real deal.

we don't have a rubio (elite playmaker) and booker (all star SG) to make whoever is playing center look better, we don't even have a real pg. unless u still waiting for frank to come around based on his 20 10 game lol. so even if we got wiseman he will just look like crap on this poorly constructed no guard roster. I agree though I'd probably take him no later than 4 or 5, definitely wouldn't take cole anthony over him

You can still trade Mitch for a point guard. And if you want to keep Mitch as a backup big or start him next to Wiseman then no worries. Draft Kira Lewis or Tre Jones with our other picks. Or even sign Fred Van Fleet in the offseason. It is definitely possible to enter next season with a solid PG and Wiseman.

Draft Jalen Green next year and you have our Booker type of talent also. Rebuild done. Lol

I'm not against having both Mitch and Wiseman on the roster and have them split minutes at center, but no matter what I wouldn't trade mitch, his contract is too good and he's too valuable, was 11th in PER and still looks like he isn't finished developing yet.

I don't think FVF will sign here. I wanted us to sign rubio last year but instead we signed every other trash player under the sun. If we did draft wiseman I would just roll with year 4 frank and dsj/payton and then tank again. Then if Frank or DSJ stick we can bring them back, if not cut all 3 of them loose and get a PG maybe draft cunningham or jalen suggs

I would prefer we just lock in our PG now, LaMelo, hope with his playmaking he can up Mitch's game further so we're locked in at PG and C, and then with that we can go after jalen green or a wing in 2021

Also I wonder how people feel about Wiseman vs Okongwu, who made a case for himself this year, many have him as the top big man in the draft

[3toheadmelo]

we don't have a rubio (elite playmaker) and booker (all star SG) to make whoever is playing center look better, we don't even have a real pg. unless u still waiting for frank to come around based on his 20 10 game lol. so even if we got wiseman he will just look like crap on this poorly constructed no guard roster. I agree though I'd probably take him no later than 4 or 5, definitely wouldn't take cole anthony over him

You can still trade Mitch for a point guard. And if you want to keep Mitch as a backup big or start him next to Wiseman then no worries. Draft Kira Lewis or Tre Jones with our other picks. Or even sign Fred Van Fleet in the offseason. It is definitely possible to enter next season with a solid PG and Wiseman.

Draft Jalen Green next year and you have our Booker type of talent also. Rebuild done. Lol

I'm not against having both Mitch and Wiseman on the roster and have them split minutes at center, but no matter what I wouldn't trade mitch, his contract is too good and he's too valuable, was 11th in PER and still looks like he isn't finished developing yet.

I don't think FVF will sign here. I wanted us to sign rubio last year but instead we signed every other trash player under the sun. If we did draft wiseman I would just roll with year 4 frank and dsj/payton and then tank again. Then if Frank or DSJ stick we can bring them back, if not cut all 3 of them loose and get a PG maybe draft cunningham or jalen suggs

I would prefer we just lock in our PG now, LaMelo, hope with his playmaking he can up Mitch's game further so we're locked in at PG and C, and then with that we can go after jalen green or a wing in 2021

Also I wonder how people feel about Wiseman vs Okongwu, who made a case for himself this year, many have him as the top big man in the draft

For me I am all about just taking the best player available. Imo Wiseman is the best in the draft. So let’s say he is off the board where we are picking, then sure give me Lamelo.

I would be higher on Mitch if he can show some flashes of offense. Like posting up, or even hitting jumpers. With Wiseman he can post up, hit jumpers, handle the ball... etc. Nothing against Mitch as I think he is our best prospect after RJ, but I think Wiseman has a much higher ceiling imo.

I don’t mind tanking for Cade Cunningham next year also. He seems legit.

[thebuzzardman]

Several posters on here don't deserve Mitchell Robinson

[Juco24]

Several posters on here don't deserve Mitchell Robinson

Preach my brother! 100!!

[ny-n-md]

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This is the guy I’m intrigued by for our late first rounder or a second rounder. David Blatt worked with him too which may put him on our radar.

11th on tankathon's big board

Mocks don’t have him that high though. I’m just hoping he would be there and he’s someone we’re interested in. Not really sure if we are thinking European again.

[ny-n-md]

I would be happy with adding him, Cole Anthony, cutting Kadeem Allen and giving a 2 way to Lamar Peters, and calling up Wooten.

Get rid of Payton, Ellington, Bullock, Randle and Portis, and resign Vonleh.

[3toheadmelo]

Several posters on here don't deserve Mitchell Robinson

Wiseman is 50x better. #sorrynotsorry.

Y’all the same people that didn’t want to trade Mitch for Zion or AD.

[RHODEY]

Several posters on here don't deserve Mitchell Robinson

Wiseman is 50x better. #sorrynotsorry.

Y’all the same people that didn’t want to trade Mitch for Zion or AD.

Because he dominated highschoolers? !0x better than the GOAT FG percentage?


Hey call me crazy but I want to see Mitch and Obi in the front court if Lamello and Hayes are not available.