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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1221 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Mar 1, 2020 4:09 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I’ll always be game from time to time, but my days of playing these constantly are over I think. Of course, it’s hard to maintain a community when everyone feels that way.

You need enough people who are always around keeping the lights on and we really don’t have that anymore. I’m surprised it lasted as long as it did.

I don't think we need to have the same frequency as we did in the past, and in any case I doubt I'd have the time these days. My problem is when we actually get a game started and then it seems to run out of momentum before we even reach the playoffs. It starts to feel like you're participating out of obligation rather than enjoyment.

The last game took roughly three months to be decided. Right now we're over 24 hours into the first round and damn near nothing has happened.


I think the pace on this one has been good. In any case, would you prefer if I waited till this one was done before I started the Contracting Franchise one?

What's the deal with this game then?
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1222 » by Hawk Eye » Sun Mar 1, 2020 7:57 pm

First time logging in and posting in years. Real life kind of derailed my virtual life there for a while. I’m at a point where I have some time on my hands again so I would love to get another draft going. I’m not sure what the level of fatigue is with the games for everyone here but I would be willing to help run/participate in the next one :D
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Re: Future Draft Games 

Post#1223 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Mar 1, 2020 8:08 pm

Hawk Eye wrote:First time logging in and posting in years. Real life kind of derailed my virtual life there for a while. I’m at a point where I have some time on my hands again so I would love to get another draft going. I’m not sure what the level of fatigue is with the games for everyone here but I would be willing to help run/participate in the next one :D

Welcome back!

The interest waxes and wanes these days. We got a decent number for the last one but a couple of people had to drop out.

I believe ardee was planning to start something up.
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Post#1224 » by Hawk Eye » Sun Mar 1, 2020 9:49 pm

I’ve been out of pocket for a while now so not sure if the voting in playoffs for these games is still the same format that it used to be. I’ve been thinking about a new way to change up the voting system though. If the general consensus is that playoff voting doesn’t need any changing then I guess this is just a moot point :P

What if we outlined a specific type of grading criteria for users to use when voting in the playoffs? It would also help you when drafting so you can understand how to build out your team to receive the maximum amount of points. Something like this...

1= worst, 10 = best
Offense (1-10)
Defense (1-10)
Star Power/Talent (1-10)
Shooting (1-10)
Playmaking (1-10)
Bench/Depth (1-10)
TOTAL: X/60 points

Of course I think users should still provide an explanation/reasoning for their vote(s) but this outline would be the one to follow. You grade each team in the playoff matchup using this outline in your vote. And with this structure it would be less about head to head matchups and more about ‘best team advances’. First person to reach “x” amount of points advances to next round.
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Post#1225 » by Hawk Eye » Mon Mar 2, 2020 5:42 pm

Mario Party draft. Same type of draft/playoff format like usual but at the end of the game the commissioner of the draft hands out “stars” and the team with the most stars at the end of the game wins.

Here’s some examples of stars that users could be rewarded with...

Overkill -Team with the best offense (1x star)
Lock Down -Team with the best defense (1x star)
Sniper -Team with the best shooters/shooting/spacing (1x star)
Dynamic Duo -Team with the best two players that mesh well together (1x star)
Broom Brusher -Goes to any team that manages to beat their opponent in a sweep (1x star)
Runner Up -Goes to the loser of the team in the finals (1x star)
Top Dog -Team that wins the championship in the playoffs (2x star)
Teacher’s Pet -A star that is not revealed prior to the start of the game. It is given out by the commish under whatever criteria he chooses. Commissioner is not eligible for this one. (1x star)

Stars are earned by a ranking system at the end of the game. The team that ends up with the most stars wins.
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Post#1226 » by ardee » Mon Mar 2, 2020 8:24 pm

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Fadeaway_J wrote:I don't think we need to have the same frequency as we did in the past, and in any case I doubt I'd have the time these days. My problem is when we actually get a game started and then it seems to run out of momentum before we even reach the playoffs. It starts to feel like you're participating out of obligation rather than enjoyment.

The last game took roughly three months to be decided. Right now we're over 24 hours into the first round and damn near nothing has happened.


I think the pace on this one has been good. In any case, would you prefer if I waited till this one was done before I started the Contracting Franchise one?

What's the deal with this game then?


My bad. Was busy the last coupla days: after Dr P runs the current one I'll put this one up.
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Post#1227 » by ardee » Fri Mar 13, 2020 6:44 pm

We're all gonna have a lot more time on our hands it seems... I'm starting up the contracting franchise draft once the current one goes to the semis.

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Post#1228 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:33 am

If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.
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Post#1229 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:33 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.

Ardee is supposed to be starting a new game shortly, but after that I'd be interested if you can get enough people.

How would you judge it? Simulate the results or something?
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Post#1230 » by wackbone » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:33 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.

Personally I’d love that
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Post#1231 » by goober » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:34 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.

i would be super down
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Post#1232 » by GeorgeMarcus » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:01 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.

Ardee is supposed to be starting a new game shortly, but after that I'd be interested if you can get enough people.

How would you judge it? Simulate the results or something?


Good question- I hadn't gotten that far. It might get messy but it would be cool to have everyone rank their top ~10, determine the 16 teams with the most points, and then play out H2H playoffs. Not sure if that's wishful thinking.
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Post#1233 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:25 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
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GeorgeMarcus wrote:If I was able to snag enough posters from the GB, would you guys be interested in a 30 team/full roster draft of current players? I would structure it ABBB ABBB ABBB ABBB AB (13 roster spots + HC)

I like the idea of finishing with realistic team builds, and I figure it's a good time to be ambitious with the suspension in effect.

Ardee is supposed to be starting a new game shortly, but after that I'd be interested if you can get enough people.

How would you judge it? Simulate the results or something?


Good question- I hadn't gotten that far. It might get messy but it would be cool to have everyone rank their top ~10, determine the 16 teams with the most points, and then play out H2H playoffs. Not sure if that's wishful thinking.

That seems pretty onerous to me after a 14-round, 30-team draft. It would be nice if there were some way to just sim the regular season and then play out a regular 16-team playoff tournament, but that isn't my area of expertise.
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Post#1234 » by GeorgeMarcus » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:32 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:Ardee is supposed to be starting a new game shortly, but after that I'd be interested if you can get enough people.

How would you judge it? Simulate the results or something?


Good question- I hadn't gotten that far. It might get messy but it would be cool to have everyone rank their top ~10, determine the 16 teams with the most points, and then play out H2H playoffs. Not sure if that's wishful thinking.

That seems pretty onerous to me after a 14-round, 30-team draft. It would be nice if there were some way to just sim the regular season and then play out a regular 16-team playoff tournament, but that isn't my area of expertise.


That sounds like a good way to go about it. Is 2K the default for sim leagues, or are there other ways to go about it?
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Post#1235 » by Fadeaway_J » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:44 am

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GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Good question- I hadn't gotten that far. It might get messy but it would be cool to have everyone rank their top ~10, determine the 16 teams with the most points, and then play out H2H playoffs. Not sure if that's wishful thinking.

That seems pretty onerous to me after a 14-round, 30-team draft. It would be nice if there were some way to just sim the regular season and then play out a regular 16-team playoff tournament, but that isn't my area of expertise.


That sounds like a good way to go about it. Is 2K the default for sim leagues, or are there other ways to go about it?

I believe roddy had put forth an idea that involved simming games a while back.

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Post#1236 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:20 am

I see a lot of pitfalls with the 30 team idea

- Getting 30 people is a stretch even with PC boarders needing something to do, and as importantly, 30 people who care. Unless you want to spend a week between picks it could get ugly fast.

- Struggle to see the B side competing even with ABBBBBBBBBBBBB

- Drafting 8th-14th men would get pretty boring and likely lead a lot of the non regulars to lose interest and grind the draft to a half

- The teams wouldn't be as good as current contenders with the talent being spread out.
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Post#1237 » by lilroddyb » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:27 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Fadeaway_J wrote:That seems pretty onerous to me after a 14-round, 30-team draft. It would be nice if there were some way to just sim the regular season and then play out a regular 16-team playoff tournament, but that isn't my area of expertise.


That sounds like a good way to go about it. Is 2K the default for sim leagues, or are there other ways to go about it?

I believe roddy had put forth an idea that involved simming games a while back.

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Some years ago we used a site called whatifsports I think. It was free and each one created their teams there, put rotation etc.. Then someone had to sim the games. It was a bit of a work but fun to see the results.
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Post#1238 » by Hawk Eye » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:29 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:I see a lot of pitfalls with the 30 team idea

- Getting 30 people is a stretch even with PC boarders needing something to do, and as importantly, 30 people who care. Unless you want to spend a week between picks it could get ugly fast.

- Struggle to see the B side competing even with ABBBBBBBBBBBBB

- Drafting 8th-14th men would get pretty boring and likely lead a lot of the non regulars to lose interest and grind the draft to a half

- The teams wouldn't be as good as current contenders with the talent being spread out.


I have a lot of the same sentiment as Dr. P here but this one would be the real breaker for me. There are only a handful of star players in the league today that could realistically lead their team to a title. Teams drafting in the 20-30 range have no chance in my opinion. The talent disparity is too big of a gap for 30 users and only doing one season.
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Post#1239 » by Colbinii » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:59 pm

Hawk Eye wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:I see a lot of pitfalls with the 30 team idea

- Getting 30 people is a stretch even with PC boarders needing something to do, and as importantly, 30 people who care. Unless you want to spend a week between picks it could get ugly fast.

- Struggle to see the B side competing even with ABBBBBBBBBBBBB

- Drafting 8th-14th men would get pretty boring and likely lead a lot of the non regulars to lose interest and grind the draft to a half

- The teams wouldn't be as good as current contenders with the talent being spread out.


I have a lot of the same sentiment as Dr. P here but this one would be the real breaker for me. There are only a handful of star players in the league today that could realistically lead their team to a title. Teams drafting in the 20-30 range have no chance in my opinion. The talent disparity is too big of a gap for 30 users and only doing one season.


This exactly. It would need to be some sort of keeper league.
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Post#1240 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:07 am

What a game where you have to use all 30 franchises?
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