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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#541 » by aq_ua » Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:46 am

Guano wrote:I'm super fortunate to work in the energy sector right now. Not to be a fear monger - we have had talks of how we are going to maintain in the event of a major portion of our work force getting ill. I'll just say, we aren't prepared for it and i'm legit worried about the infrastructure of other industries that supply "needs".

Fear mongering is a necessity when it’s the only way to get large swaths of people to change their behavior for the societal good. We’ll know fear mongering worked when we look back and it wasn’t as bad as we feared. It will be labeled fear mongering, but only because it was effective in preventing the fear from becoming reality.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#542 » by Zenzibar » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:04 pm

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Maury2423 wrote:

I’m a physical therapist assistant, the company I work for has a few clinics but one of them had to close. So one of the therapists that’s been there for years is going to take my spot until things go back to normal. It sounds like I’ll have my job back when things go back to normal but who knows how long that’ll be, I’m thinking at least 2 months.

It really sucks because I just graduated in December and I’m sure I’m not going to be able to get another PTA job in the meantime. But gotta keep my head up


There'll be a huge need for any type of human services, so adjust and just don't sit there and sulk. Look where you may be of service and get a paycheck while you're at it.


I think you are being a little over optimistic. Huge need for human services? Where? In hospitals? A LOT of businesses are going to shutter permanently. Quite a few others are going to effectively close up shop, pare down staff to "essential personnel" and try to rid this out.

There's always work to be found, sure, but sometimes it's not easy. I think this time it won't be easy, because there will be competition with all the laid off workers. Oh, and all sorts of people who worked in the "gig" economy, the first jobs to experience the slow down, by and large, will all be scrambling for those "human services" jobs.



Understand. But what I meant was the the health industry and it's workers will be hit hard and stand by personnel will be required to step in where needed.
Who knows.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#543 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:52 pm

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There'll be a huge need for any type of human services, so adjust and just don't sit there and sulk. Look where you may be of service and get a paycheck while you're at it.


I think you are being a little over optimistic. Huge need for human services? Where? In hospitals? A LOT of businesses are going to shutter permanently. Quite a few others are going to effectively close up shop, pare down staff to "essential personnel" and try to rid this out.

There's always work to be found, sure, but sometimes it's not easy. I think this time it won't be easy, because there will be competition with all the laid off workers. Oh, and all sorts of people who worked in the "gig" economy, the first jobs to experience the slow down, by and large, will all be scrambling for those "human services" jobs.



Understand. But what I meant was the the health industry and it's workers will be hit hard and stand by personnel will be required to step in where needed.
Who knows.


My friend who is a retired fireman stated "Old seasoned guy who got called back to work" with FDNY.

I guess the city figures the current fireman will be busy with other work.
Hauling bodies away?
EMT qualified ones pulling extra shifts in ambulances?
Maybe just ramping up on people experienced with emergency work in general.

Ah - maybe to get them back onto certain 9/11 calls:
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-fdny-order-coronavirus-first-responders-20200307-yhxagu6yzzd6th23o4mqymma3q-story.html
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#544 » by god shammgod » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:38 pm

"Look at Italy ... I feel for everyone there, they’ve gone to full shutdown,” Hizzoner said in a pre-taped interview that aired Sunday morning on WABC-TV. “God forbid that ever happened here, because they have lost not just the year 2020, but they’ve lost 2021 and maybe 2022 in terms of creating a functioning society.”

“If we slip into much more of a shutdown, people have to understand all of the consequences of that and how long it will take to bring it back,” the mayor added.

Pressed on the issue at his news conference, de Blasio insisted “I don’t want to be at the point of saying literally no one can go outside.” But, he added, “We may say that very, very soon.”


man. this is gonna suck.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#545 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:48 pm

A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#546 » by Rockazoids » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:12 pm

Here in Ohio it's a mess. I work for Humana & we are working 11 or 12 hours a day.
Follow the science not some internet physician & get your shots.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#547 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:58 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.


I thought it was all a liberal hoax....:eek1:
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#548 » by BKAY » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:10 pm

So as related to the NBA, im sure everyone is expecting a big financial hit. In combination with the HK drama, you have to assume a major decrease to the cap is on the way. Will teams who have given out multiple big contracts be majorly handcuffed by them in the near future? Knicks are in a pretty good position either way by having cap space coming up. What do you guys think will be the fallout to the NBA from the financial/management standpoint?
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Post#549 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:16 pm

BKAY wrote:So as related to the NBA, im sure everyone is expecting a big financial hit. In combination with the HK drama, you have to assume a major decrease to the cap is on the way. Will teams who have given out multiple big contracts be majorly handcuffed by them in the near future? Knicks are in a pretty good position either way by having cap space coming up. What do you guys think will be the fallout to the NBA from the financial/management standpoint?


I don't have any predictions per the NBA exactly, but I wonder if younger generations will grow up supporting teams like we have in the past. Many of the gamers for instance may rather commune online and interact via those channels than follow sports teams. Long term I guess team sports as a business will have some sort of decline and this may trigger that trend prematurely.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#550 » by moocow007 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:15 pm

Several things on this whole thing...

LIRR and subways are empty. During rush hour there were maybe 8-10 people in on the LIRR in my car which usually can fit about 120 people. Subway to the WFC had maybe a doze people, tops. Everyone was staring at everyone else and spaced out. It's crazy. If you cough you may get jumped.

Those stupid disposable masks (that you see a lot of folks, not just chinese folks, wear) don't work. You need AT LEAST n95 filter masks. Hand sanitizers (if you can find them) has to be AT LEAST 60% alcohol. Some of the crap you find in Bath & Body don't do a thing to the corona virus. In lieu of hand sanitizers you can always use alcohol (from the liquor store) but the alcohol should also be at least 120 proof (60% alcohol). We "raided" our local liquor store and bought all the grain alcohol we could find. Grain alcohol is 180 proof (90% alcohol). Toilet paper is almost as impossible to find so buy paper towels. It's the same ****. You just may not want to flush it down the toilet is the thing (just throw it in the garbage).
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#551 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:Several things on this whole thing...

LIRR and subways are empty. During rush hour there were maybe 8-10 people in on the LIRR in my car which usually can fit about 120 people. Subway to the WFC had maybe a doze people, tops. Everyone was staring at everyone else and spaced out. It's crazy. If you cough you may get jumped.

Those stupid disposable masks (that you see a lot of folks, not just chinese folks, wear) don't work. You need AT LEAST n95 filter masks. Hand sanitizers (if you can find them) has to be AT LEAST 60% alcohol. Some of the crap you find in Bath & Body don't do a thing to the corona virus. In lieu of hand sanitizers you can always use alcohol (from the liquor store) but the alcohol should also be at least 120 proof (60% alcohol). We "raided" our local liquor store and bought all the grain alcohol we could find. Grain alcohol is 180 proof (90% alcohol). Toilet paper is almost as impossible to find so buy paper towels. It's the same ****. You just may not want to flush it down the toilet is the thing (just throw it in the garbage).


Sure....thats why I loaded up on 180 proof liquor...for the sanitizer. :wink:

But good info.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#552 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:54 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.


I thought it was all a liberal hoax....:eek1:


EVERYONE IS OVERREACTING AND THE MEDIA IS MAKING THEM DO SO!!!

I've seen this meme circulating. Usually it's a directly pro Trump thing, but not always. In the instances it's not, I just assume it's just somewhat subtler operatives at work.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#553 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:56 pm

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moocow007 wrote:Several things on this whole thing...

LIRR and subways are empty. During rush hour there were maybe 8-10 people in on the LIRR in my car which usually can fit about 120 people. Subway to the WFC had maybe a doze people, tops. Everyone was staring at everyone else and spaced out. It's crazy. If you cough you may get jumped.

Those stupid disposable masks (that you see a lot of folks, not just chinese folks, wear) don't work. You need AT LEAST n95 filter masks. Hand sanitizers (if you can find them) has to be AT LEAST 60% alcohol. Some of the crap you find in Bath & Body don't do a thing to the corona virus. In lieu of hand sanitizers you can always use alcohol (from the liquor store) but the alcohol should also be at least 120 proof (60% alcohol). We "raided" our local liquor store and bought all the grain alcohol we could find. Grain alcohol is 180 proof (90% alcohol). Toilet paper is almost as impossible to find so buy paper towels. It's the same ****. You just may not want to flush it down the toilet is the thing (just throw it in the garbage).


Sure....thats why I loaded up on 180 proof liquor...for the sanitizer. :wink:

But good info.


Mix it with Aloe vera gel. That's if you are going to use it on your hands and not your liver, which is where I would put it
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#554 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:58 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.


I thought it was all a liberal hoax....:eek1:


EVERYONE IS OVERREACTING AND THE MEDIA IS MAKING THEM DO SO!!!

I've seen this meme circulating. Usually it's a directly pro Trump thing, but not always. In the instances it's not, I just assume it's just somewhat subtler operatives at work.


Even the neighbor who survived lung cancer has sobered up and he's no longer telling me it is a media conspiracy. He's the most vulnerable person imaginable so this time we discussed protocols for him to remain safe
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#555 » by god shammgod » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:58 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Several things on this whole thing...

LIRR and subways are empty. During rush hour there were maybe 8-10 people in on the LIRR in my car which usually can fit about 120 people. Subway to the WFC had maybe a doze people, tops. Everyone was staring at everyone else and spaced out. It's crazy. If you cough you may get jumped.

Those stupid disposable masks (that you see a lot of folks, not just chinese folks, wear) don't work. You need AT LEAST n95 filter masks. Hand sanitizers (if you can find them) has to be AT LEAST 60% alcohol. Some of the crap you find in Bath & Body don't do a thing to the corona virus. In lieu of hand sanitizers you can always use alcohol (from the liquor store) but the alcohol should also be at least 120 proof (60% alcohol). We "raided" our local liquor store and bought all the grain alcohol we could find. Grain alcohol is 180 proof (90% alcohol). Toilet paper is almost as impossible to find so buy paper towels. It's the same ****. You just may not want to flush it down the toilet is the thing (just throw it in the garbage).


Sure....thats why I loaded up on 180 proof liquor...for the sanitizer. :wink:

But good info.


For some reason 60 percent alcohol works better than 90 percent alcohol. Saw that the other day.
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Post#556 » by Knick4Real » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.


I thought it was all a liberal hoax....:eek1:


Yeah, that's the problem. For all those weeks Trump called it a "hoax" we lost valuable time we could have been more proactive. Now, we're playing catch-up -- and even now, he's still insisting we've got a handle on things, everything is gonna be ok, etc. when that's simply not true.
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Re: OT: The official Coronavirus fear mongering thread 

Post#557 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:03 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
moocow007 wrote:Several things on this whole thing...

LIRR and subways are empty. During rush hour there were maybe 8-10 people in on the LIRR in my car which usually can fit about 120 people. Subway to the WFC had maybe a doze people, tops. Everyone was staring at everyone else and spaced out. It's crazy. If you cough you may get jumped.

Those stupid disposable masks (that you see a lot of folks, not just chinese folks, wear) don't work. You need AT LEAST n95 filter masks. Hand sanitizers (if you can find them) has to be AT LEAST 60% alcohol. Some of the crap you find in Bath & Body don't do a thing to the corona virus. In lieu of hand sanitizers you can always use alcohol (from the liquor store) but the alcohol should also be at least 120 proof (60% alcohol). We "raided" our local liquor store and bought all the grain alcohol we could find. Grain alcohol is 180 proof (90% alcohol). Toilet paper is almost as impossible to find so buy paper towels. It's the same ****. You just may not want to flush it down the toilet is the thing (just throw it in the garbage).


Sure....thats why I loaded up on 180 proof liquor...for the sanitizer. :wink:

But good info.


For some reason 60 percent alcohol works better than 90 percent alcohol. Saw that the other day.


The regular proof catches the virus off-guard because it thinks its drinking a cocktail
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Post#558 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:08 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
Sure....thats why I loaded up on 180 proof liquor...for the sanitizer. :wink:

But good info.


For some reason 60 percent alcohol works better than 90 percent alcohol. Saw that the other day.


The regular proof catches the virus off-guard because it thinks its drinking a cocktail


I'll add some club and a splash of lime.
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Post#560 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:20 pm

Knick4Real wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:A Twitter Thread in full:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239134892975427586.html

The implication is clear. We missed the window of opportunity so this is about to go exponential for a few weeks at least. I would not be surprised if the U.S. ends up with infections well north of the million mark due to our slow response and continued large gatherings and clusterfukked airport scenes. Trump lied about everything at the beginning. They had the data and time to prepare, but they didn't. We're going to pay the price now.


I thought it was all a liberal hoax....:eek1:


Yeah, that's the problem. For all those weeks Trump called it a "hoax" we lost valuable time we could have been more proactive. Now, we're playing catch-up -- and even now, he's still insisting we've got a handle on things, everything is gonna be ok, etc. when that's simply not true.


My wife works for the Federal government. In a job that could be done in from anywhere with internet and phone access.
Still, she and her entire office were made to go to work today.

They did the planning etc around "working from home" on Friday - and already have the means etc.
It seems no agency wants to be "first"
Trump has created a culture among leaders of federal agencies - the ones who make the call on this stuff - that they are fearful to wrong dear leader.

So, where I live in Northern Va, and this holds for southern Maryland, a LOT of people work in federal office buildings, directly or as in place contractors.

The same places that shut schools down for effectively the next month.

Yet, so far, the federal government decided to impact this area by rolling the dice by having people come into work - on trains, buses, or the every popular carpool (well, "only 3" in car necessary for HOV lanes). Nice to know the local measures are being undermined - to some degree.
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