Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[Catchall]

The virus isnt dangerous enough on an individual level for someone of my demographic to risk taking a vaccine that is fast tracked through and doesnt have long term safety data. I'd imagine a lot of people would feel the same way

As a person under the age of 50 and with a strong immune system, I have zero interest in taking a new vaccine for Covid.

[basketballRob]

The virus isnt dangerous enough on an individual level for someone of my demographic to risk taking a vaccine that is fast tracked through and doesnt have long term safety data. I'd imagine a lot of people would feel the same way

As a person under the age of 50 and with a strong immune system, I have zero interest in taking a new vaccine for Covid.

If you get the virus you could spread it to other people. Plus you still have a chance to get sick and possibly dying if it gets into your lungs.

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[Optimus_Steel]

The only thing that President Trump didn't tell the truth about was the WHO's test not working, when actually it was the CDC's test that initially didn't work.

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The best thing Trump has done is get the CDC out of the way and let the states and the private sector go to work. Whatever role the CDC was meant to perform, they didn't effectively do it.

Disagree. There must be some coordinated effort so that everyone is on the same page or you have states doing all sorts of different things. For example each state doing a free for all trying to get in front of each other for ventilators.

[Catchall]

The only thing that President Trump didn't tell the truth about was the WHO's test not working, when actually it was the CDC's test that initially didn't work.

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The best thing Trump has done is get the CDC out of the way and let the states and the private sector go to work. Whatever role the CDC was meant to perform, they didn't effectively do it.

Disagree. There must some coordinated effort so that everyone is on the same page or you have states doing all sorts of different things. For example each state doing a free for all trying to get in front of each other for ventilators.

True, but NIH has been far more effective and coherent than CDC, at least in this instance.

Regarding ventilators, the U.S. has a stockpile with thousands of ventilators that are stored individually in rolling suitcase-like containers. But don't ask me how they're supposed to be delivered, installed and tested. I think this is why Trump is saying to the states that they may want to try to solve their issues locally first.

[Optimus_Steel]

Work for a food distributor, we all got word from senior leadership to start working from home tomorrow morning. However our people in the warehouse will not be able to stay home. Timeline now is two weeks, at least. No plan beyond that at this point.

[Nuntius]

Why is Italy getting hit so hard with deaths compared to other places?

Because the sheer amount of cases (31,506 as of today) has completely overwhelmed their health care system. They have run out of the necessary equipment (be them hospital beds or ventilators for those with serious respiratory issues) and they practically can't hospitalize everyone that requires hospitalization. That's why the death toll is so massive. It's exactly what happened in Wuhan.

That's the system risk that people have been talking about. That's what all countries want to avoid right now. The virus is basically everywhere (hence the classification of a pandemic) and the best you can do now is try to flatten the curve as much as possible (by limiting people movement and contact) so that it doesn't overwhelm your health care system.

[Catchall]

The virus isnt dangerous enough on an individual level for someone of my demographic to risk taking a vaccine that is fast tracked through and doesnt have long term safety data. I'd imagine a lot of people would feel the same way

As a person under the age of 50 and with a strong immune system, I have zero interest in taking a new vaccine for Covid.

If you get the virus you could spread it to other people. Plus you still have a chance to get sick and possibly dying if it gets into your lungs.

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The survival rate for people under 50 is very high, and there really is no treatment taking place right now other than to isolate patients and make sure they have oxygen, while the body's own immune system fights the infection. A new vaccine is likely to carry side effects and won't be proven to be effective without significant clinical trials.

Another issue is that corona-viruses, including the common flu, are known to mutate, even season to season.

[rmfc]

I'd say pre-Gobert you'd say we weren't doing enough in all aspects. In a post-Gobert world the USA (government aspect anyway) is doing tons in regards to shutting so much stuff down.

Covid-19 was covid-19 long before Gobert acted like the imbecile he is ...but a big percentage of the population only started taking notice after Gobert's positive test (& combined with Tom Hanks' positive test on the very same night).

Literally, everything has to be overly dramatic for us to start taking any action. Extremely sad, but true.

[OkcSinceSGA]

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This is huge. IF, big IF it includes pay for people laid off/shut down from bigger companies like mine who are under 75k per year or whatever, I'm all for it. Yes, it's more debt... But at this point the alternative is a full on depression. Trump, like Obama before him has a HUGE responsibility to get us through this crises.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

The only thing that President Trump didn't tell the truth about was the WHO's test not working, when actually it was the CDC's test that initially didn't work.

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The best thing Trump has done is get the CDC out of the way and let the states and the private sector go to work. Whatever role the CDC was meant to perform, they didn't effectively do it.

The states don't have the authority to activate many of the programs that would help in a pandemic like this, they need the federal govt. to be the backbone and thus far it hasn't been. Waiting on the private sector to make kits instead of taking WHO kits is a disaster, they could have done both, taken the WHO kits and began testing immediately and had the private sector making more.

[sfernald]

We are now entering the third phase of the coronavirus discussion.

Any derailments of the topic will be contained and you will be put in isolation.

Don't make us lockdown this thread.

You guys (Like the virus apparently) kill me lol.

[Celtic Esquire]

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[Catchall]

I'd say pre-Gobert you'd say we weren't doing enough in all aspects. In a post-Gobert world the USA (government aspect anyway) is doing tons in regards to shutting so much stuff down.

Covid-19 was covid-19 long before Gobert acted like the imbecile he is ...but a big percentage of the population only started taking notice after Gobert's positive test (& combined with Tom Hanks' positive test on the very same night).

Literally, everything has to be overly dramatic for us to start taking any action. Extremely sad, but true.

I agree with this. What happened with Gobert and the NBA shutting down abruptly helped get people's attention to an otherwise scattered news story. It gave everyone the signal that the virus is now here.

[G R E Y]

Good to see some signs of organization and mobilization progress both from the government (national and local) and from the business industries. Here's one example:

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While we're socially isolating, some ideas:

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I wonder if there's a way to connect elderly people who cannot go out to do some shopping with those who can go out and get some essentials for them?

[Catchall]

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New York is going to be its own kettle of fish. There's no such thing as social distancing there.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Btw... On an off topic note. I FINALLY found meats, rice, boxed goods at a Mexican grocery called Ranch Market. The only way this happened is stores have now implemented a 2 or 3 item per household rule for milk, rice, beans, ramen etc. What this tells me is prior to the restrictions people were bulk buying/hoarding. I got enough food for 2 weeks luckily.

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[G R E Y]

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****. Spurs played there on March 6th. I hope all our players and coaches and staff got tested and are ok.

[VancouverRaps]

Maybe we can get a little more investment in science and medical research after all of this.

Bill Gates has warned the world for years.

Everyone wrote him off as a bored ultra-rich guy trying to find his new hobby.

You got the YouTube recommendation too eh? lol

[NoDopeOnSundays]

https://news.usni.org/2020/03/17/pentagon-preparing-navy-hospital-ships-mercy-comfort-for-coronavirus-response



Navy hospital ships will be parked off the coasts to take on non-Covid19 patients.

[sfernald]

The economic consequences of these measures could be unlike anything we have ever seen in history. More and more I’m hearing the word “depression” being thrown around as opposed to “recession”. Don’t be shocked to see the unemployment rate hit 20-25% again, folks...

No matter what we will bounce back. We Americans were born from a tough as **** lot.

Here’s some perspective on the matter:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-forgotten-epidemics-11584113203