Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[bwgood77]

Can we put a sticky on this board telling all people who are not spending as much of the time possible in home...that they will not have a job in 6 months? And they will be competing with thousands who are probably looking for hotel housekeeping jobs to pay their bills?

A lot of people will have jobs...it depends on the job. And they shouldn't be able to fire people for getting sick, and once they come back it should be fine. Layoffs for industries that are hit will be what kills businesses because of isolation is what will kill the economy....not that people shouldn't self isolate. But it's not our job to tell people what to do. They should know what they can do, and some will try not to because they likely won't care. A sticky won't change that.

That's the problem though...you have multiple industries who are going to have layoffs. Restaurants / hotels / cruise industry / airline industry / retail. What are all of these people supposed to do with a $1,000 check? It's crazy man...I'm not trying to be dramatic but I'm legitimately concerned of what's going to happen.

Well, it's a much larger scale, but a lot of people have had to deal with layoffs and no source of income. They do need a large stimulus package and hopefully unemployment is enough for most people to get by on. Once it passes, those industries should gradually start to re-hire. But people will have to live with friends or parents or whatever for sure. There is already a significant homeless population, and much of it comes from losing jobs and not having adequate healthcare and wiping out finances.

There has been a big big cry for more affordable housing so maybe they can give a lot of money to HUD to supplement builders in building low income housing.

[Pharmcat]

any company that used the tax cut to buy back stocks should not be eligible for bailout: sell your stocks or turn to your investors for money. Im specifically looking at the airline industry

[GordanFreeman]

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/elderberry

One study of 60 people with influenza found that those who took 15 ml of elderberry syrup four times per dayshowed symptom improvement in two to four days, while the control group took seven to eight days to improve (9Trusted Source).

Another study of 64 people found that taking 175-mg elderberry extract lozenges for two days resulted in significant improvement in flu symptoms, including fever, headache, muscle aches and nasal congestion, after just 24 hours (10).



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Please stop with the supplements posts. They have nothing to do with coronavirus.

Nah, they continue.

[LesGrossman]

Well if it hits 50% of the public they should develop immunity to it, and then once recovered, if they recover, they should be able to go back to work without fear of infecting anyone or getting infected. Of course this is a new virus so things could change, and nothing is 100%, but for the most part, that should be what happens.

Is there any thing to promise this whole immunity angle? Not all viruses work that way and you can be reinfected just like you did the first time. They don't know enough about it yet to say for sure.

No, not for sure, but that's the default. The flu is a particularly special virus in the way that it purposely changes it's surface to evade human immune systems. This virus has not shown that feature, it's unique.

It could be tricky to start letting a lot of people who have immunity go out and about if there is still a social distancing thing in place though...hard for people to stick to social distancing if they see others out and about.

The purpose of social distancing is not to avoid contracting it altogether, its about controlling a constant flow of infections. The throughput has to be managed to stay within the capacities of avaiable ICU's. The problem in Italy and probably soon in the US is a flood of people that is 10x as much as can be handled, overrunning the clinics. So as infections and immunity start to flatten or maybe even decrease, the distancing thing can be gradually reduced to allow for the next lot.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Why did China use antibiotics to fight this though? You'd think they are smarter than pumping everyone full of antibiotics for a viral condition?

Cant find article now to share, but it was related to how China turned this around so quickly. It basically said they pumped people with antibiotics too. Which at the time I questioned, but didn't think to post

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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[Driguez]

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/elderberry

One study of 60 people with influenza found that those who took 15 ml of elderberry syrup four times per dayshowed symptom improvement in two to four days, while the control group took seven to eight days to improve (9Trusted Source).

Another study of 64 people found that taking 175-mg elderberry extract lozenges for two days resulted in significant improvement in flu symptoms, including fever, headache, muscle aches and nasal congestion, after just 24 hours (10).



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Please stop with the supplements posts. They have nothing to do with coronavirus.

Yes let's wait for big pharma and criticize natural remedies... Do they all work? No. Some do. If anything your post is the one who does not bring anything helpful to this thread covid or not.

[LKN]

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Up to 6362 cases and 108 deaths

[basketballRob]

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Does that guy ever go to New York city?

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[Tomjas]

This is day 2 and Marriott is already cutting tens of thousands of jobs. Before we know it, there will be no hotel workers. How many hotel workers are there in this country? That is just one example...not counting the retail employees, restaurant servers, etc etc. Telling people they don't have to pay their bills if they stay home for 2 months is the best thing we can do right now to avoid catastrophe.

I live on the Gold Coast in Australia

Occupancy rate of local Marriott is currently 5-10%

Most hotels need occupancy rates of 60+ to survive

There’s going to be mass redundancies, bankruptcies, etc

My wife works for Marriott. There are internal talks that most hotels in Phoenix will close until September. This market is unique since no one stays here in Phoenix during the summer but it's extremely concerning.

GC is a major tourism market

International market is effectively shut down as all arrivals must self isolate for 14 days (penalty of $13000 for breach) so why bother

Domestic market is largely limited to drive ups as government has asked all non-essential air travel to stop

F & B market is being decimated as there’s a 100 person limit on gatherings and that’s about to go down to 30

Perfect storm

[NBAFan93]

Can we put a sticky on this board telling all people who are not spending as much of the time possible in home...that they will not have a job in 6 months? And they will be competing with thousands who are probably looking for hotel housekeeping jobs to pay their bills?

A lot of people will have jobs...it depends on the job. And they shouldn't be able to fire people for getting sick, and once they come back it should be fine. Layoffs for industries that are hit will be what kills businesses because of isolation is what will kill the economy....not that people shouldn't self isolate. But it's not our job to tell people what to do. They should know what they can do, and some will try not to because they likely won't care. A sticky won't change that.

That's the problem though...you have multiple industries who are going to have layoffs. Restaurants / hotels / cruise industry / airline industry / retail. What are all of these people supposed to do with a $1,000 check? It's crazy man...I'm not trying to be dramatic but I'm legitimately concerned of what's going to happen.

They are going to go broke and not pay their bllls, and the people who depend on them to pay their bills cause they provide them w/ housing, cars, food, entertainment, etc. are eventually going to not be able to pay THEIR bills. And so on and so on. It’s going to contract the economy big time. People losing jobs over these shutdowns is a huge deal.

I guess once things are back to normal, theory is that they’ll get hired back at another company, but depending on how employable and in demand an individual person is, they could be financially destroyed by then.

[azcatz11]

Who in this thread would accept not leaving their house / condo / whatever for 2 months except for critical travel to avoid this blowing up? I know it's hard...but please spread the word. At least we have technology.

[RookieStar]

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/elderberry

One study of 60 people with influenza found that those who took 15 ml of elderberry syrup four times per dayshowed symptom improvement in two to four days, while the control group took seven to eight days to improve (9Trusted Source).

Another study of 64 people found that taking 175-mg elderberry extract lozenges for two days resulted in significant improvement in flu symptoms, including fever, headache, muscle aches and nasal congestion, after just 24 hours (10).



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Please stop with the supplements posts. They have nothing to do with coronavirus.

Yes let's wait for big pharma and criticize natural remedies... Do they all work? No. Some do. If anything your post is the one who does not bring anything helpful to this thread covid or not.

Exactly. And I also disagree with nothing to do with coronavirus. Im one of those that thinks majority of the population of Earth will probably get it ( i hopeand pray not ) so you wanna be ( in case God forbids you get it ) one of those that only have mild symptoms and recovers ASAP rather than need to be in ICU and stuff.

Will the supplements aka vit c d and zinc fo that? who knows... however it does answer and fight what the synptoms of this china virus (lol) gives you.

[SOdisciple]

Who in this thread would accept not leaving their house / condo / whatever for 2 months except for critical travel to avoid this blowing up? I know it's hard...but please spread the word. At least we have technology.

Uh I need to work. So unless there is some kind of solution with either supplemental money or rent and bills are covered for the next two months, that ain't happening.

[jason bourne]

Belgium news. Scary as ****.

"Coronavirus doctor says lung scans for young patients were ‘nothing short of terrifying’"

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/coronavirus-doctor-says-lung-scans-for-young-patients-were-nothing-short-of-terrifying/

New York may be going to shelter in place.

Yes, if you get seriously infected lungs and end up in hospital at any age then your lungs are going to look bad. I don't understand why it's especially terrifying, it's expected. Am I meant to care more.because they are young?

The chance of a young person getting to that level is small but it can happen, even with the flu.

Is this meant to be a strategy to get young people to stay indoors more?

I was aware that pneumonia can strike anybody at any age. What we heard earlier about only older people are more susceptible to death or long-term damage may not be true. It could affect younger people, so Rudy Gobert making light and thinking he'll be okay may not be true. Most likely he'll make a full recovery, but one can't take it for granted.

I just found out we had a breakout in my neighborhood at a local church. Two have died and four more could have it. We're not in county with shelter in place or full lockdown, but it may as well be. I just went out and then found out. Gulp.

siap. The other thing I was wrong about was the NBA testing all the teams. The Warriors haven't been tested. It could be testing is available only those who are most in danger or experiencing the symptoms as same as the general public. I think we definitely need more testing to know where to flatten the curve -- https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2020/03/17/coronavirus-pandemic-why-warriors-have-declined-testing/5074642002/.

[spikeslovechild]

The best situation moving foward maybe to do what Britian is doing instead of putting all the effort into preventing the unpreventable as it relates to the Chinese Coronavirus instead protect the most vulnerable and for the rest allow it to move throughout the population and build up some immunity.

[azcatz11]

Who in this thread would accept not leaving their house / condo / whatever for 2 months except for critical travel to avoid this blowing up? I know it's hard...but please spread the word. At least we have technology.

Uh I need to work. So unless there is some kind of solution with either supplemental money or rent and bills are covered for the next two months, that ain't happening.

$1000 a month or $2000 total plus not paying rent. That's what I'm proposing

[Sara2009]

We are going to find out that a lot of people are suddenly socialists.

As someone on the other end of that spectrum...we need to hit this hard and fast. I don't think we have enough measures in place right now. We are risking killing the economy for years just because people don't want to stay home for a couple of months. Bring the military out and let's get this over with

It’s **** like this that is really hurting the cause right now...

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This is why we need a nationwide shutdown. People aren’t going to cooperate otherwise.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

At this point everyone in public should be required to wear a mask so they don't spread.

[SOdisciple]

Who in this thread would accept not leaving their house / condo / whatever for 2 months except for critical travel to avoid this blowing up? I know it's hard...but please spread the word. At least we have technology.

Uh I need to work. So unless there is some kind of solution with either supplemental money or rent and bills are covered for the next two months, that ain't happening.

$1000 a month or $2000 total plus not paying rent. That's what I'm proposing

I feel skeptical that that can actually happen but if that's the case then I would be willing to make the indoors sacrifice if it means preventing further spread.