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Mister Ze wrote:Is it true that people who recover can get it again - cause if so this isn’t going away anytime soon.
Who is going to give the okay on coming back to work when the cases continue sky rocketing
Yea they are gonna get hit hard. It's the Elderly Republic.LKN wrote:DingleJerry wrote:Before rushing to rip on dumb young people. I'll add that literally every single older person I've spoken with(that's not hyperbole) have all said "it's just the flu and the media is overreacting, this is no big deal". Most recent one was about 3 hours ago.
There are going to be A LOT of dead people in the villages in Florida.
If you know what that is, you know it's all old people
Cases have been lower than other states but that is rather surprising with being the 3rd largest state and all the tourist we get. I fear it's way underreported due to not enough testing.SF_Warriors wrote:LKN wrote:DingleJerry wrote:Before rushing to rip on dumb young people. I'll add that literally every single older person I've spoken with(that's not hyperbole) have all said "it's just the flu and the media is overreacting, this is no big deal". Most recent one was about 3 hours ago.
There are going to be A LOT of dead people in the villages in Florida.
If you know what that is, you know it's all old people
I wonder how bad it is in florida. They have disney and that attracts tons of people (I know disneyworld is closed now but it was open just a few days ago)
I only really hear about NY, seattle, Bay area right now.
LKN wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:LKN wrote:
FYI - My buddy who is an ER Doc said that this is actually probably wrong and the CDC is mostly right.
Appreciate feedback, but this isn't an opinion at all. They group Pneumonia deaths. Almost no death certificates are actually from the flu. Read the study and the Huff post article and make your own judgment. While I respect the hell out of Dr's, they are wrong about things too. You have to remember the data they receive via certain organizations is treated like the bible for them. They are trained to go with a specific school of thought. It's why you have a lot of outdated dietary recommendations still being taught to young Dr's etc. This article speaks for itself with EXACTLY why the CDC is incorrect in it's tracking. It's based on flimsy data and by aggregating things that aren't related. It would be like you dying from a stroke while in the hospital for a bad car accident with trau
I'm just telling you what I was told. He read the HHS paper you posted and told me he had some issues with it and would still side more with the CDC.
He's been an ER doctor at Johns Hopkins for a long time. Just passing that along.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Mister Ze wrote:Is it true that people who recover can get it again - cause if so this isn’t going away anytime soon.
Who is going to give the okay on coming back to work when the cases continue sky rocketing
Some people have been "reinfected" but it may have just been false negatives.
They have found that blood plasma from recovered people have antibodies in it and could be helpful in recovery for others, so you should be immune to it.
Optimus_Steel wrote:Yea they are gonna get hit hard. It's the Elderly Republic.LKN wrote:DingleJerry wrote:Before rushing to rip on dumb young people. I'll add that literally every single older person I've spoken with(that's not hyperbole) have all said "it's just the flu and the media is overreacting, this is no big deal". Most recent one was about 3 hours ago.
There are going to be A LOT of dead people in the villages in Florida.
If you know what that is, you know it's all old people
LKN wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Mister Ze wrote:Is it true that people who recover can get it again - cause if so this isn’t going away anytime soon.
Who is going to give the okay on coming back to work when the cases continue sky rocketing
Some people have been "reinfected" but it may have just been false negatives.
They have found that blood plasma from recovered people have antibodies in it and could be helpful in recovery for others, so you should be immune to it.
Yes - convalescent serum. Supposedly that is already getting setup here. It's an old technique from the days before vaccines. It doesn't cure, but it can help your body fight the infection much better
. Snake venom in particular seems to be promising. I wish I went to school for this man. Would be so fun to play around with this stuff.
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:LKN wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
Appreciate feedback, but this isn't an opinion at all. They group Pneumonia deaths. Almost no death certificates are actually from the flu. Read the study and the Huff post article and make your own judgment. While I respect the hell out of Dr's, they are wrong about things too. You have to remember the data they receive via certain organizations is treated like the bible for them. They are trained to go with a specific school of thought. It's why you have a lot of outdated dietary recommendations still being taught to young Dr's etc. This article speaks for itself with EXACTLY why the CDC is incorrect in it's tracking. It's based on flimsy data and by aggregating things that aren't related. It would be like you dying from a stroke while in the hospital for a bad car accident with trau
I'm just telling you what I was told. He read the HHS paper you posted and told me he had some issues with it and would still side more with the CDC.
He's been an ER doctor at Johns Hopkins for a long time. Just passing that along.
Tell him to join the forum and enlighten me on the things he disagrees with so I can understand, and update my data potentially.
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homecourtloss wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:LKN wrote:
I'm just telling you what I was told. He read the HHS paper you posted and told me he had some issues with it and would still side more with the CDC.
He's been an ER doctor at Johns Hopkins for a long time. Just passing that along.
Tell him to join the forum and enlighten me on the things he disagrees with so I can understand, and update my data potentially.
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:homecourtloss wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
Tell him to join the forum and enlighten me on the things he disagrees with so I can understand, and update my data potentially.
Not sure what part seems silly. I legitimately am willing to learn new information always, IF it's founded on good data/logic. If he's an experienced ER doctor, I'm sure he will have no issue explaining what's wrong about my post.
Mister Ze wrote:Is it true that people who recover can get it again - cause if so this isn’t going away anytime soon.
Who is going to give the okay on coming back to work when the cases continue sky rocketing
LKN wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:homecourtloss wrote:
Not sure what part seems silly. I legitimately am willing to learn new information always, IF it's founded on good data/logic. If he's an experienced ER doctor, I'm sure he will have no issue explaining what's wrong about my post.
He didn't get into a lot of details.. (he is legit busy - already caring for critical COVID-19 patients). It wasn't a "this is stupid - ignore it" reaction. He basically said the author would be financially motivated to write that up (based on what they do) and that the author is making some claims that are really much more of a grey area than they are described in the paper. Basically, "the author makes some points - but I still tend to side with the CDC - they are probably more right than not".
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:LKN wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
Not sure what part seems silly. I legitimately am willing to learn new information always, IF it's founded on good data/logic. If he's an experienced ER doctor, I'm sure he will have no issue explaining what's wrong about my post.
He didn't get into a lot of details.. (he is legit busy - already caring for critical COVID-19 patients). It wasn't a "this is stupid - ignore it" reaction. He basically said the author would be financially motivated to write that up (based on what they do) and that the author is making some claims that are really much more of a grey area than they are described in the paper. Basically, "the author makes some points - but I still tend to side with the CDC - they are probably more right than not".
That seems reasonable. Sounds more like he understands it has some validity, but just trusts the CDC's sourcing a bit more. While I respectfully disagree (CDC has a history of lying and ineptitude), I am perfectly okay with him having that POV. Believe me. I want nothing more than to be completely wrong about everything COVID 19. Sadly what we are seeing so far is more like my nightmares all coming true. The things I'm seeing are making it harder to sleep at night.
LKN wrote:ClipsFanSince98 wrote:LKN wrote:
He didn't get into a lot of details.. (he is legit busy - already caring for critical COVID-19 patients). It wasn't a "this is stupid - ignore it" reaction. He basically said the author would be financially motivated to write that up (based on what they do) and that the author is making some claims that are really much more of a grey area than they are described in the paper. Basically, "the author makes some points - but I still tend to side with the CDC - they are probably more right than not".
That seems reasonable. Sounds more like he understands it has some validity, but just trusts the CDC's sourcing a bit more. While I respectfully disagree (CDC has a history of lying and ineptitude), I am perfectly okay with him having that POV. Believe me. I want nothing more than to be completely wrong about everything COVID 19. Sadly what we are seeing so far is more like my nightmares all coming true. The things I'm seeing are making it harder to sleep at night.
I hear you man. I have to move my 70+ year old parents and 100 year old grandma 400 miles on saturday. To say I'm nervous about that would be an understatement.
Bottomsouth wrote:Nuntius wrote:MotownMadness wrote: And im sure to you it was also racist and fear mongering early when he put in the china travel ban.
One thing to note here:
The only country that has been able to stop Covid-19 so far, South Korea, never issued a travel ban to China.
Not entirely true, they restricted travel from parts of China. Also, they had petitions with over 500k signatures to ban all travel. To add, Japan restricted travel.