Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

BladeDaywalker · Post #801 » by **BladeDaywalker** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:06 am

I will always remember Wilbur Ross telling us that a virus outbreak would actually be a good thing for the country. The incompetence of these people is legendary.

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basketballRob · Post #802 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:07 am

steger_3434 wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Sounds legit. While people get on me for not panicking enough I’ve done my part. Besides work, I havnt left my house except once to go to the grocery store. Bored as hell beyond belief, but I’m doing my part.

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Then why are you so against people urging others to do their parts as well? What you've been posting in this thread doesn't logically follow with what you're doing.

Because there are a lot of fear mongering words and panic being thrown around in this thread. I’m being calm about this situation while being careful. I also am looking at all sides and realize the amount of lives we are saving by these measures are also ruining other people’s lives economically and we all know troubles economically lead to suicide, torn families, drug addiction, crime sometimes

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All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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BladeDaywalker · Post #803 » by **BladeDaywalker** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:09 am

Also, Trump's announcement regarding the authorization of the Defense Production Act wasn't actually meant to combat it today. He is only saying that he might use it in the future when it is too late to take measure to effectively combat the virus.

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azcatz11 · Post #804 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:17 am

basketballRob wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
Then why are you so against people urging others to do their parts as well? What you've been posting in this thread doesn't logically follow with what you're doing.

Because there are a lot of fear mongering words and panic being thrown around in this thread. I’m being calm about this situation while being careful. I also am looking at all sides and realize the amount of lives we are saving by these measures are also ruining other people’s lives economically and we all know troubles economically lead to suicide, torn families, drug addiction, crime sometimes

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All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #805 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:20 am

azcatz11 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Because there are a lot of fear mongering words and panic being thrown around in this thread. I’m being calm about this situation while being careful. I also am looking at all sides and realize the amount of lives we are saving by these measures are also ruining other people’s lives economically and we all know troubles economically lead to suicide, torn families, drug addiction, crime sometimes

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All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

They essentially privatized the tests, they will make a profit off them, that is what's taking so long. Also, they want to keep infected numbers down.

Wouldn't shock me if they allow blue states to get hammered too, Cuomo (NY) has been asking for the Army Corps of Engineers for days now, nothing.

LKN · Post #806 » by **LKN** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:21 am

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madmaxmedia · Post #807 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:22 am

azcatz11 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Because there are a lot of fear mongering words and panic being thrown around in this thread. I’m being calm about this situation while being careful. I also am looking at all sides and realize the amount of lives we are saving by these measures are also ruining other people’s lives economically and we all know troubles economically lead to suicide, torn families, drug addiction, crime sometimes

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All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Supply has been a big issue. The tests are based on testing for viral genetic markers, which involves DNA testing process and equipment. It’s harder to scale that sort of testing up, among other things.

basketballRob · Post #808 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:23 am

azcatz11 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
steger_3434 wrote:Because there are a lot of fear mongering words and panic being thrown around in this thread. I’m being calm about this situation while being careful. I also am looking at all sides and realize the amount of lives we are saving by these measures are also ruining other people’s lives economically and we all know troubles economically lead to suicide, torn families, drug addiction, crime sometimes

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All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Apparently they don't have the supply.

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Crizzle · Post #809 » by **Crizzle** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:23 am

My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming

madmaxmedia · Post #810 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:25 am

Crizzle wrote:My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming

Man I hope you can convince him otherwise. He has just about every co-morbidity factor in the book (I’m not sure about diabetes, I have read obesity is a factor.)

basketballRob · Post #811 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:25 am

Crizzle wrote:My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming

My mom's 78 year old husband went shopping and the community gym yesterday.

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azcatz11 · Post #812 » by **azcatz11** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:25 am

madmaxmedia wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Supply has been a big issue. The tests are based on testing for viral genetic markers, which involves DNA testing process and equipment. It’s harder to scale that sort of testing up, among other things.

I know it's unrealistic...but imagine if we took over the Tesla factory like some were saying and just produced test kits day and night. We could send the kits to the outbreak areas (every citizen) and could eliminate this in weeks

LKN · Post #813 » by **LKN** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:26 am

madmaxmedia wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:All we had to do is test every single person and quarantine the positive tests and it would be almost over. The problem is we're still waiting on tests.

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So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Supply has been a big issue. The tests are based on testing for viral genetic markers, which involves DNA testing process and equipment. It’s harder to scale that sort of testing up, among other things.

It's not that hard. The test they use for this is a very standard type of test that is done all the time. Even grad students could design one easily.

You are correct though, that there are supply issues with things like reagents. However, that is largely because of dithering and incompetence, not because the test is particularly complicated.

LKN · Post #814 » by **LKN** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:27 am

azcatz11 wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Supply has been a big issue. The tests are based on testing for viral genetic markers, which involves DNA testing process and equipment. It’s harder to scale that sort of testing up, among other things.

I know it's unrealistic...but imagine if we took over the Tesla factory like some were saying and just produced test kits day and night. We could send the kits to the outbreak areas (every citizen) and could eliminate this in weeks

We have companies like LabCorp and Quest that can do a massive amount of tests. If we had been ramping them up 4-6 weeks ago we'd have plenty of tests right now

Optimus_Steel · Post #815 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:27 am

2012NadalShadow wrote:I will always remember Wilbur Ross telling us that a virus outbreak would actually be a good thing for the country. The incompetence of these people is legendary.

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Yes I remember that. But it's more than incompetence, is that combined with complete and utter cluelty, sociopathy, and greed.

madmaxmedia · Post #816 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:28 am

azcatz11 wrote:
madmaxmedia wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
So...why can't we throw like $1B on tests? How much does every test cost? Or is the problem supply?

Supply has been a big issue. The tests are based on testing for viral genetic markers, which involves DNA testing process and equipment. It’s harder to scale that sort of testing up, among other things.

I know it's unrealistic...but imagine if we took over the Tesla factory like some were saying and just produced test kits day and night. We could send the kits to the outbreak areas (every citizen) and could eliminate this in weeks

I don’t know the exact current status, but in the early stages it wasn’t even test kit availability that was an issue (although that may have been a problem too.) It’s the throughput to process thousands/millions of these tests by labs.

LKN · Post #817 » by **LKN** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:29 am

basketballRob wrote:
Crizzle wrote:My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming
My mom's 78 year old husband went shopping and the community gym yesterday.

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How the hell is the gym still open?

Optimus_Steel · Post #818 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:30 am

2012NadalShadow wrote:Also, Trump's announcement regarding the authorization of the Defense Production Act wasn't actually meant to combat it today. He is only saying that he might use it in the future when it is too late to take measure to effectively combat the virus.

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They don't get is still. They are still in denial, this is a worst case scenario. They have to treat this like it's World War 3 now.

Stillwater · Post #819 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:32 am

Crizzle wrote:My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming

can't blame that generation for being stubborn, they all are for the most part too old to care

Crizzle · Post #820 » by **Crizzle** » Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:32 am

LKN wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Crizzle wrote:My 70yr old father insists that his yearly golf trip with his old airline buddies is still gonna be on in a month. Wants to drive from Memphis to Dallas alone. Oh, hes also an obese diabetic. And if you think he doesnt lean right, you got another thing coming
My mom's 78 year old husband went shopping and the community gym yesterday.

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How the hell is the gym still open?

any gym open right now is suspect as well as anyone actually visiting them.