Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[Courtside]

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I'm in Florida so most months we are very hot with a high UV index so I'm glad in Florida. What about inside places where the Sun/ IV rays can't reach? Is there a machine/tool, etc to use that's hot and might have a high UV index to use on surfaces?

Regular UVA and UVB emitted from the sun don't really do anything. It's the heat and moisture they're talking about.

For germicidal and sanitary purposes, it's the UVC range that is effective, but this is not naturally produced. When we produce it and it combines with oxygen, it creates ozone. It also leads to rapid sunburn and skin cancer, along with retinal damage and blindness, so UV sanitary products are for very specific uses. They do use it in hospitals and labs to sanitize instruments to tools, for example.

[Dirk]

Here's what testing looks like. Written by a fellow realgmer, who got tested yesterday

Here's a recap of my day:
- I was able to get tested, and found the healthcare workers went above and beyond to make that happen. I drove to a drive-through test site in Newtown Square PA, which is about 40 minutes from my home in north Delaware.

- The process was reasonably efficient considering the traffic. My car windows remained up the whole time until I got to the final testing location, where a group of people with hazmat suits shepherded my car into a tent which they closed behind me.

- The swab itself kinda sucked. They stuck a long stick up my nose and it felt like they were poking at my brain for 20 seconds, but I did get a "this won't be pleasant" warning before the nurse did her thing. Obviously it's a lesser and necessary evil in this situation.

- Unfortunately, I was told I have to wait 3-5 days before hearing back from my doctor who they will contact first. I was still kinda thrown off by the swab so I didn't catch if it's business days or 3-5 days total.

- I read a bunch of stuff saying I shouldn't take ibuoprofen and should let the fever run its course, so sick-wise I'm feeling a little worse today. Thankfully my breathing is no worse than it was yesterday.

[Zenzibar]

I've been to China several times, new years celebration lasts 15 days after Jan 25th. Was there a hard quarantine prior to Feb 8th? My question is given the densely populated urban areas, I'm shocked this didn't spread more to the other areas outside Wuhan (which was likely heavily infected prior to New Years). Their domestic measures were still late. Given the evidence provided by China, perhaps there is info we're not aware of. And the burning question for those praising their response. Why the **** didn't they prevent Chinese from leaving their country?

Dude, they're have been non-Chinese travelers to China who returned home. There have been cases of people never in China and not in contact with any persons of Asian nationality infected. Could have been on surfaces of planes arriving to airports here or pilots flying there.

Many factors. Haven't you've seen Planet of the Apes?

I know. Look up how they treated int'l visitors to China. How many Chinese workers go to Northern Italy? My point is, they took measures to protect themselves, but not any other country. This will come out against them in a big way down the road. Book it.

Nah. Just like the U.S. didn't heed the warnings, neither did a lot of other countries. W.H.O. with advance warning from the Chinese government, issued warnings back in early February that this can be spread globally. Did you know who listen? Nope.

Every country was aware back then. Only the Asian countries took it seriously. The U.S. gov. caring more about the stock markets in a campaign year, reacted last. Let's get the facts right.

[LKN]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

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For much of the country, what Nunes is saying is true, imo. New York, Seattle and San Francisco are different, but in most other areas the current data suggests a below-average flu season is taking place.

Now maybe there's a tsunami of new cases about to hit the fan, and I'll withhold judgement, but for many states it doesn't appear to be happening.

Again, I'm in Utah. There were 12 more positive diagnoses today bringing the total positive cases to 63 across a state of nearly 3 million people. There are zero fatalities so far. And yet everything is shut down, the economy is grinding to a halt, and everyone is rushing to buy water and toilet paper.

Stay tuned...

This is not correct and you are spreading horribly dangerous information. Deaths lag infections significantly. We also are still testing very few people.

It's possible in a few weeks that we'll have a better idea where the true hot spots are, but the fact is we acted far too late and this has spread all over the place now. Until we have aggressive test, trace quarantine we have to shut everything down.

This isn't because of the media or panic... it's because of the abject incompetence of the current administration. If they had acted in January (or even February) instead of doing almost nothing until last week we might look more like South Korea right now and less like Italy. Instead we have the CDC telling doctors and nurses they can use bandanas when they run out of masks even though we have no idea if that would help at all.

The CDC was still telling states they had more than adequate testing capacity on February 26th!

[OkcSinceSGA]

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This seems in line with the vitamins we discussed right? Going low carb/sugar seems important for fighting off viral infections?

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[ItsDanger]

Basically sugars are fuel for virus replication not unlike cancer cells.

[MotownMadness]

Michigan just had its 3rd death from it. A 82 year old and a woman and man in their 50s both with underlying conditions though

[Ainosterhaspie]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

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There's no reason to panic? I'm 43 years old and this is by FAR the most disturbing and crazy thing that has ever happened in my entire life.

This makes 9-11 look like a minor incident.

I'd say that panic is what happens when fear rises to the point of being counterproductive. Fear's purpose is to drive action to respond to a threat in a way that avoids or mitigates the danger. Panic on the other hand, rather than eliminating or reducing danger, magnifies the threat from the initial danger and/or creates entirely new dangers.

There is every reason to fear right now, but panic is never helpful. We should all do our best to quell our own panic levels and to help others quell theirs.

[ken6199]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

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There's no reason to panic? I'm 43 years old and this is by FAR the most disturbing and crazy thing that has ever happened in my entire life.

This makes 9-11 look like a minor incident.

Funny how they play with their words right? "There is no reason to be THIS panic", that means "Hey I didn't say we shouldn't be panic, I said we need to be panic, but not this panic. That panic? Yeah that's the right amount of panic."

It's just stupid and irresponsible to say such things these days. Giving opinion on such a critical issue using ambiguous words without backing it up with any facts. What she said is exactly the same as "flu kills more people". Is it wrong? Not really. Still a stupid thing to say.

[Optimus_Steel]

Here is an interview that Devin Nunes did earlier today:

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There's no reason to panic? I'm 43 years old and this is by FAR the most disturbing and crazy thing that has ever happened in my entire life.

This makes 9-11 look like a minor incident.

What would he say if he would end up contracting covid19? Guarantee you he would flip 180 in a hurry.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Basically sugars are fuel for virus replication not unlike cancer cells.

Seems so. I know studies have been promising (though limited) showing cancers (especially brain) being severely slowed by low carb/sugar. Basically starves them.

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[ItsDanger]

Nah. Just like the U.S. didn't heed the warnings, neither did a lot of other countries. W.H.O. with advance warning from the Chinese government, issued warnings back in early February that this can be spread globally. Did you know who listen? Nope.

Every country was aware back then. Only the Asian countries took it seriously. The U.S. gov. caring more about the stock markets in a campaign year, reacted last. Let's get the facts right.

WHO delayed their pandemic warning for a reason and it wasn't the US. Get real. WHO should have banned travel to/from China same time US did and Wuhan lockdown. Italy and their hug chinese crap burned them big time. WHO had no problem banning travel to Toronto in 2003 with far fewer cases. Wonder why??????

[bisme37]

Anyone else watching The Jump? It's their first episode since Corona took over the world and Rachel etc and are up there yucking it up and cracking jokes even as they talk about serous matters. The tone seems completely wrong to me.

[PD28]

Nutrition scientists recommending specific vitamins to fight COVID-19 now? Lmfao

[sfernald]

Basically sugars are fuel for virus replication not unlike cancer cells.

Seems so. I know studies have been promising (though limited) showing cancers (especially brain) being severely slowed by low carb/sugar. Basically starves them.

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Omg my keto diet might be what saves me.

[Zenzibar]

Nah. Just like the U.S. didn't heed the warnings, neither did a lot of other countries. W.H.O. with advance warning from the Chinese government, issued warnings back in early February that this can be spread globally. Did you know who listen? Nope.

Every country was aware back then. Only the Asian countries took it seriously. The U.S. gov. caring more about the stock markets in a campaign year, reacted last. Let's get the facts right.

WHO delayed their pandemic warning for a reason and it wasn't the US. Get real. WHO should have banned travel to/from China same time US did and Wuhan lockdown. Italy and their hug chinese crap burned them big time. WHO had no problem banning travel to Toronto in 2003 with far fewer cases. Wonder why??????

Ok. The pressure to control the fall of the markets, kept the reactions here to the minimum. As far as W.H.O, they cannot control what the governments do, they can only advise.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Nutrition scientists recommending specific vitamins to fight COVID-19 now? Lmfao

Not really. He posted a video about ways to have the immune system ready to fight. Not referring to Covid specifically. He's referring to the Coronavirus family+virus in general. These vitamins boost the body's ability to fight back he's saying.

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[LKN]

Anyone else watching The Jump? It's their first episode since Corona took over the world and Rachel etc and are up there yucking it up and cracking jokes even as they talk about serous matters. The tone seems completely wrong to me.

Eh - being serious all the time helps no one. They are sports reporters... not political experts or doctors. People need to let off some steam and not freak out all the time

[OkcSinceSGA]

Basically sugars are fuel for virus replication not unlike cancer cells.

Seems so. I know studies have been promising (though limited) showing cancers (especially brain) being severely slowed by low carb/sugar. Basically starves them.

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Omg my keto diet might be what saves me.

I love Keto's results but by month 3 I just couldn't stick with it . My inflammation started reducing. Aches and pains mostly gone. Just so hard man.

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[sfernald]

The markets really feel like they are being propped up. I see the market down 6% five minutes ago and now they are positive suddenly.