Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread III (Info. Post 1)

[JordansBulls]

Remember WWII the U.S beforehand had like the 117th best military with only like 200,000 Troops. https://www.nationalww2museum.org/students-teachers/student-resources/research-starters/research-starters-us-military-numbers

And then the American nation pulled together.

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Year   Army   Navy   Marines   Coast Guard   Total
1939   189,839   125,202   19,432       334,473
1940   269,023   160,997   28,345       458,365
1941   1,462,315   284,427   54,359       1,801,101
1942   3,075,608   640,570   142,613   56,716*   3,915,507
1943   6,994,472   1,741,750   308,523   151,167   9,195,912
1944   7,994,750   2,981,365   475,604   171,749   11,623,468
1945   8,267,958   3,380,817   474,680   85,783   12,209,238


[gumbyr24]

Don't know if its already been posted, but been checking up on this a few times a day

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[madmaxmedia]

The USA number skyrocketed today, again likely because we’re starting to test more and more people and confirming more cases. We have no idea yet what the real number of infected are, how fast we’re spreading it right now, etc.

That chart comparing our timeline with Italy? That comparison is probably over, we’re racing ahead going forward. It’s going to make it very hard to draw any sort of predictions for the USA based on Italy’s numbers.

[Bullflip]

The USA number skyrocketed today, again likely because we’re starting to test more and more people and confirming more cases. We have no idea yet what the real number of infected are, how fast we’re spreading it right now, etc.

That chart comparing our timeline with Italy? That comparison is probably over, we’re racing ahead going forward. It’s going to make it very hard to draw any sort of predictions for the USA based on Italy’s numbers.

It’s going to be a series of surges. A lot of people still partied for St. Patrick’s and people still did the Spring Break for a couple of days. When they go back to their hometowns, they will probably infect more

[Ainosterhaspie]

The USA number skyrocketed today, again likely because we’re starting to test more and more people and confirming more cases. We have no idea yet what the real number of infected are, how fast we’re spreading it right now, etc.

That chart comparing our timeline with Italy? That comparison is probably over, we’re racing ahead going forward. It’s going to make it very hard to draw any sort of predictions for the USA based on Italy’s numbers.

Might make sense to combine UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy to compare. I think that's still lower than our population.

[Catchall]

Just a reminder that last year's flu season in the U.S. had 35.5 million infections, 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 patients hospitalized, and 34,200 deaths. It was considered an average or slightly below-average flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

Okay, carry on.

[Trader_Joe]

Just a reminder that last year's flu season in the U.S. had 35.5 million infections, 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 patients hospitalized, and 34,200 deaths. It was considered an average or slightly below-average flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

Okay, carry on.

I don't remember countries like Italy not being able to cope with the flu and the medical needs associated with it last year, do you?

NYC is on a worse trajectory, but earlier on than Italy.

[Ayt]

Flu bros never stop!

Anyway.

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[OkcSinceSGA]

Rep. Mark Green (R-TN) :  The old reliable Malaria drug chloroquine, the newer version hydroxychloroquine has shown really good, three studies, one in Australia, one in China and now one in France mixed with azithromycin, just the old Z-Pac that we take for bronchitis, has had 100%.  It cleared the virus, in some cases in three days,  that cocktail in every one of the patients in that study…  It’s very promising, 100% of the virus gone in six days!

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[Bullflip]

Just a reminder that last year's flu season in the U.S. had 35.5 million infections, 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 patients hospitalized, and 34,200 deaths. It was considered an average or slightly below-average flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

Okay, carry on.

The fatality rate is much higher than the flu at 3%

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-vs-the-flu-its-just-like-other-viruses-and-we-should-go-about-our-normal-business-right-wrong-heres-why-2020-03-09

[Metallikid]

Rep. Mark Green (R-TN) :  The old reliable Malaria drug chloroquine, the newer version hydroxychloroquine has shown really good, three studies, one in Australia, one in China and now one in France mixed with azithromycin, just the old Z-Pac that we take for bronchitis, has had 100%.  It cleared the virus, in some cases in three days,  that cocktail in every one of the patients in that study…  It’s very promising, 100% of the virus gone in six days!

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Except people are forgetting that Malaria didn't go anywhere either. They can't simply take all of it and give it to COVID patients.

[Trader_Joe]

Rep. Mark Green (R-TN) :  The old reliable Malaria drug chloroquine, the newer version hydroxychloroquine has shown really good, three studies, one in Australia, one in China and now one in France mixed with azithromycin, just the old Z-Pac that we take for bronchitis, has had 100%.  It cleared the virus, in some cases in three days,  that cocktail in every one of the patients in that study…  It’s very promising, 100% of the virus gone in six days!

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Except people are forgetting that Malaria didn't go anywhere either. They can't simply take all of it and give it to COVID patients.

There's no shortage and it's cheap. Best hope we have at the moment IMO.

[basketballRob]

Can any of you New Yorkers tell me why your Gov hasn't done what California has done? You guys are ground 0 for this. He needs to be responsible and take the appropriate steps. It's crazy that he hasn't done it already.

We hardly test here in Florida and our governor is so spaced out. He wants to put one testing center in central Florida at the convention center. On a normal day they have a huge amount of traffic. It will be almost impossible to get there.

I'm sure we have 100k cases here in Florida but you can only be tested if you're near dead.

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[Triples333]

Pretty sure I have it and am getting over it currently. I work(ed) in an environment where I am in contact with ~1,000+ customers from all over the world on a daily basis (service industry, so weekends especially), and have had shallow breathing for the past week. Something that I don't experience, ever.

All that to say I would imagine the true total of cases in the world (it's currently listed at 250K), is probably closer to 50 million. There is no reason why the NBA players should be any higher than any other industry that works daily with people, and yet we know of at least 8 of them that currently have the virus (we have only tested approximately 100 of them).

So while to me this reassures me to think that it is simply not very dangerous to the vast majority of us, we DO know how contagious and dangerous it is to our parents. And I don't know about you, but that scares the hell out of me. My parents have a lot to give still. THAT is who we need to isolate and quarantine. The rest of us should resume activities sooner than later IMO (because the cost/benefit is drastic for our livelihood).

[basketballRob]

Can any of you New Yorkers tell me why your Gov hasn't done what California has done? You guys are ground 0 for this. He needs to be responsible and take the appropriate steps. It's crazy that he hasn't done it already.

Ny will be the first city to recover because they didn't wait for the federal government. They developed their own test and are testing everyone. Like what South Korea did

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[basketballRob]

Read on Twitter

He doesn't realize that it's everywhere and NY is the only city testing.

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[basketballRob]

CNN says that Burr received no briefing on the virus in the week leading up to his stock sale. CNN also said there is no evidence of any insider trading. Before we all rush to call for his head, we need more facts.

You have the link? Also do you have a link that people called the president racist for stopping the flights from China?

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[SimonFish]

Taiwan Has Been Shut Out of Global Health Discussions. Its Participation Could Have Saved Lives
BY ANDERS FOGH RASMUSSEN MARCH 18, 2020
Anders Fogh Rasmussen was the Prime Minister of Denmark from 2001 to 2009.

Learning from the experiences of SARS in 2003, Taiwan was ready when the outbreak in Wuhan occurred. After the first notifications at the end of 2019, Taipei swiftly deployed a combination of measures to identify and contain the virus, including the use of big data to help contain potential cases.

The global health community could have learned from Taiwan’s experience. But in recent years its world-class health specialists have been shut out in the cold by Beijing’s geopolitical obsessions.

This includes the UN World Health Organization. Until 2016, Taiwan was allowed to participate in its annual assembly as a non-state actor. This is no longer the case, and for the past three years, its request for an invitation has been denied. If it wishes to participate in WHO technical working bodies made up of health experts looking at specific challenges, it must apply each time and its participation is regularly blocked. One example of this was last year when Taiwan was blocked from discussions on influenza vaccines.

Taiwan made clear that its wish to be part of these bodies was due to its practical know-how. It has been satisfied to be included as an observer. It has something to offer the global health community. Yet China muddied the waters of geopolitics and global health – and today we see the consequences.

More at link:
https://time.com/5805629/coronavirus-taiwan/

[Catchall]

Just a reminder that last year's flu season in the U.S. had 35.5 million infections, 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 patients hospitalized, and 34,200 deaths. It was considered an average or slightly below-average flu season.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html

Okay, carry on.

I don't remember countries like Italy not being able to cope with the flu and the medical needs associated with it last year, do you?

NYC is on a worse trajectory, but earlier on than Italy.

It is likely that last year's flu infections in the U.S. were largely spread throughout the country. Whereas, Covid infections thusfar are concentrated in just a few hotspots--almost 70% in NY, CA and WA.

The way things are tracking, New York may end up with more than 50% of the country's total Covid infections. If a high percentage of those cases require hospitalization, it might overwhelm their local hospitals.

Strong measures need to be taken in New York, Seattle and the Bay Area. However, current data would suggest that shutting down local economies and asking people to isolate themselves is an overreaction in at least 30 of 50 states. Hopefully, that won't continue more than another week or two if the data doesn't change too dramatically.

https://covidtracking.com/data/

[Metallikid]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/cramer-we-can-not-have-the-fat-cats-make-money-at-the-expense-of-the-workers.html

Wow. We are officially living in the Twilight Zone.

I bet you guys can write Bernie into the Presidency at this point.

There's gonna be a New New Deal and a ratified 2nd Bill of Rights in less than a year's time if we can get through this.