Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1)

Ainosterhaspie · Post #21 » by **Ainosterhaspie** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:39 pm

niQ wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:I'm an Australian that lives in Santa Clara County. Mostly I still read the Australian news and I'm starting to get pretty worried about them over there.

Sydney and Melbourne are just hitting winter and flu season right when the peak of the coronavirus is mean to hit. Those cities have a pretty dry climate as well so they won't get any reprieve from high humidity.

From the looks of the news it doesn't appear like anyone really cares there. Anyone from Australia notice that it's quieter on the street and are people distancing properly?

This was probably last week, but I remember seeing a friend's friend's IG story where they had a class cancelled, so instead, they went to a bar...

From what I understand, schools haven't shut down completely there.

That's been the battle with my kids, my youngest daughter in particular. They're out of school and want to go do stuff with their friends. Me forcing them to stay home is not going over well.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #22 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:41 pm

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Pharmcat · Post #23 » by **Pharmcat** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:41 pm

How are the numbers tracking ? Are we still on Italy pace or slower ?

Post #24 » by **niQ** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:43 pm

Pharmcat wrote:How are the numbers tracking ? Are we still on Italy pace or slower ?

From ken's tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pGS-7crotTLUm4b28w4LWQE8a3m9jjF6rP7h0impqDA/edit#gid=0

ItsDanger · Post #25 » by **ItsDanger** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:45 pm

Cuomo did a 180 in 24 hours. Going to be difficult to enforce with that many people. Hope they got their toilet paper in time.

KyRo23 · Post #26 » by **KyRo23** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:45 pm

Pharmcat wrote:How are the numbers tracking ? Are we still on Italy pace or slower ?

How accurate can these really be though? If people can't get tested, how can we get accurate numbers? If people who are infected are staying inside without getting tested, we are also not getting those numbers.

Michael Lucky · Post #27 » by **Michael Lucky** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:46 pm

2900 new cases just in NY today.

madmaxmedia · Post #28 » by **madmaxmedia** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:Good write up on why free and widespread testing is the first real step to getting things under control:
https://medium.com/@yishan/free-widespread-testing-is-the-only-way-america-goes-back-to-normal-952ee9201dd

I've been thinking about this all last night, I think the greatest misstep BY far in this country was not ramping up for widespread and mass testing 1 or 2 months ago (assigning blame is not my concern right now.) Obviously this would have helped individuals with symptoms, saved lives, and also start isolating carriers early.

But what we needed more than anything is DATA. Not just about sick people, but about the greater population. What percentage of an urban area has COVID? What about rural areas? What's really happening day to day, week to week? Are we doing too much, or not enough? Right now we are largely flying blind, testing has only just started to ramp up so you have some arguing this is a hoax, some saying we're still not doing enough. More data, earlier, would have really helped establish a consensus sooner in this country.

Instead of speculating and ARGUING about the severity of COVID-19 in the USA, LET'S FIND OUT INSTEAD should have been the focus.

To make a basketball analogy, it would be like the Clippers about to play to Bucks in the Finals, but having done absolutely no scouting or even watching the Bucks or any EC teams, and not even having complete stats on the Bucks team and players. How good are they? How are the match ups? Are we gonna sweep or get swept? What kind of game plan should we have? Some say, easy we will win in 4. Others say the Bucks are too strong and will sweep the Clips. Some say the whole thing is a hoax and the Bucks don't actually exist. How can there be any coherent plan or agreement in this environment?

And then the night before the game, Doc Rivers and the coaching staff decides to buy NBA League Pass and start scouting the Bucks...

mashiach · Post #29 » by **mashiach** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:47 pm

Why is NY such a complete disaster? Because of immigrants flying in/out at a high pace?

Crizzle · Post #30 » by **Crizzle** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:49 pm

WH presser starting soon

Michael Lucky · Post #31 » by **Michael Lucky** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:49 pm

These super limited shutdowns arent going to help much.

LKN · Post #32 » by **LKN** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:53 pm

niQ wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:How are the numbers tracking ? Are we still on Italy pace or slower ?

From ken's tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pGS-7crotTLUm4b28w4LWQE8a3m9jjF6rP7h0impqDA/edit#gid=0

Skyrocketing. NYC is in very big trouble

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Crizzle · Post #33 » by **Crizzle** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:53 pm

schools dunzo

nymets1 · Post #34 » by **nymets1** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:54 pm

They about to change our break times at work. Inbound associates always had breaks from 10:15 to 10:45 am and 2:15 to 2:45 pm and are now divided into either Purple or Orange. And I'm outbound and used to breaks at 11 am to 11:30 and 3 to 3pm but now outbound will be broken up into blue, green or yellow. All because of this social distancing thing which I'm tired about.

LKN · Post #35 » by **LKN** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:55 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:Good write up on why free and widespread testing is the first real step to getting things under control:
https://medium.com/@yishan/free-widespread-testing-is-the-only-way-america-goes-back-to-normal-952ee9201dd

I've been thinking about this all last night, I think the greatest misstep BY far in this country was not ramping up for widespread and mass testing 1 or 2 months ago (assigning blame is not my concern right now.) Obviously this would have helped individuals with symptoms, saved lives, and also start isolating carriers early.

But what we needed more than anything is DATA. Not just about sick people, but about the greater population. What percentage of an urban area has COVID? What about rural areas? What's really happening day to day, week to week? Are we doing too much, or not enough? Right now we are largely flying blind, testing has only just started to ramp up so you have some arguing this is a hoax, some saying we're still not doing enough. More data, earlier, would have really helped establish a consensus sooner in this country.

To make a basketball analogy, it would be like the Clippers ready to play to Bucks in the Finals, but having done absolutely no scouting or even watching the Bucks or any EC teams, and not even having complete stats on the Bucks team and players. How good are they? How are the match ups? Are we gonna sweep or get swept? What kind of game plan should we have? Some say, easy we will win in 4. Others say the Bucks are too strong and will sweep the Clips. Some say the whole thing is a hoax and the Bucks don't actually exist. How can there be any coherent plan or agreement in this environment?

And then the night before the game, Doc Rivers and the coaching staff decides to buy NBA League Pass and start scouting the Bucks...

I think the focus on testing already sick people is a mistake at this point. Anyone with flu like symptoma is being told to quarantine as it is. We really need to find more of the mild and asymptomatic spreaders

OkcSinceSGA · Post #36 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:59 pm

I just found out my sister has had MULTIPLE pulmonary embolisms requiring emergency care in past years. She also has a permanent partial collapsed lung. I assume she's ultra high risk??

Post #37 » by **Dirk** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:00 pm

niQ wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:How are the numbers tracking ? Are we still on Italy pace or slower ?

From ken's tracker: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pGS-7crotTLUm4b28w4LWQE8a3m9jjF6rP7h0impqDA/edit#gid=0

thelead · Post #38 » by **thelead** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:00 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:These super limited shutdowns arent going to help much.

What's your alternative?

Post #39 » by **niQ** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:01 pm

nymets1 wrote:They about to change our break times at work. Inbound associates always had breaks from 10:15 to 10:45 am and 2:15 to 2:45 pm and are now divided into either Purple or Orange. And I'm outbound and used to breaks at 11 am to 11:30 and 3 to 3pm but now outbound will be broken up into blue, green or yellow. All because of this social distancing thing which I'm tired about.

Social distancing is tough, but we're all in this together.

The longer people resist from it, the longer we'll have to do it.

Optms · Post #40 » by **Optms** » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:02 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Australians enjoying the beach. The combo of sea salt and ultra violet rays is probably a safer environment than other places. Summer is ending down there.

Watch on YouTube

WTF. This video has me conflicted. On the one hand, all these Aussie beach dwellers can die and I wouldn't shed a tear. They know the risks so that's on them. The less stupid people the better. But on the other hand its stupid people like these that will infect other non stupid people. If only this damn virus wasn't so infectious.