Coronavirus

[dice]

I was literally hit by a truck. Fell back really hard. At the time, adrenaline flowing, I felt alright... it was hours later that I couldn’t stand. Had a pretty serious procedure on my spine, but still have issues. Oh yeah, migraines.... I’ve had them my entire life, normally once or twice a month (sometimes lasting days) but that’s actually my biggest issue now. I can live with the pain I’m in daily, but it sets off migraines every other day that completely immobilize me.

yikes. hope this process makes things better for ya

Thanks Dice.... I’m hoping so. It’s been an extremely long process (over 2 years) but the doctors seem to be really keying in on an area that’s been giving me issues. Took over a year to get them to take a real look and do some tests....

before they finally got to the point where they were like “hmm C6-C7, doesn’t look like it should”... me “where’s C6-C7?”... doctor touching me “here”... “oh, you mean in the area that I’ve been telling you I’ve had severe pain for well over a year? Go figure”

Feels like I’m on a good path to some sort of pain management or worst case, surgery that will allow me to get back to some form of living.

tried medical marijuana?

[AKfanatic]

yikes. hope this process makes things better for ya

Thanks Dice.... I’m hoping so. It’s been an extremely long process (over 2 years) but the doctors seem to be really keying in on an area that’s been giving me issues. Took over a year to get them to take a real look and do some tests....

before they finally got to the point where they were like “hmm C6-C7, doesn’t look like it should”... me “where’s C6-C7?”... doctor touching me “here”... “oh, you mean in the area that I’ve been telling you I’ve had severe pain for well over a year? Go figure”

Feels like I’m on a good path to some sort of pain management or worst case, surgery that will allow me to get back to some form of living.

tried medical marijuana?

It’s not available where I am currently. I’ve used it in the past in AK and it’s actually the only thing that consistently seemed to work for my migraines.

[2018C3]

Well we all need some positive news, last Sunday I stopped in at Aldis, and the shelves were more stocked than I had seen them in the previous week. I was actually able to walk out with what I planned to get.

I don't think people should be trying to push political agendas in this time, and that goes for both sides, In times like this people need to put there views aside, and work towards coming together.

It may be easier said than done, but to be honest both parties have taken extreme opposite view points. I think most people want to meet somewhere in the middle, but each political party does not want to give up a inch of ground and that is a problem.

[wolffy]

Well we all need some positive news, last Sunday I stopped in at Aldis, and the shelves were more stocked than I had seen them in the previous week. I was actually able to walk out with what I planned to get.

I don't think people should be trying to push political agendas in this time, and that goes for both sides, In times like this people need to put there views aside, and work towards coming together.

It may be easier said than done, but to be honest both parties have taken extreme opposite view points. I think most people want to meet somewhere in the middle, but each political party does not want to give up a inch of ground and that is a problem.

I get ur point but i disagree. This is the exact time to act politically. The reality is that politics effect everything and the choices matter. We shouldnt ignore what politicians are doing right now.

[robert76]

I watched the news over the weekend and it was really disappointing. Here, in Bucharest, Romania, the weather was beautiful, so crowds of idiots filled the parks. An ex-Romanian footballer, Cristi Chivu who played for Inter Milan and is still employed by the club, told about people socializing in bars and on terraces. In Milan, basically in the middle of the worst place in Italy! Also, I saw crowded beaches in Florida and California. Ignorant people making it worse for everybody.

[Payt10]

Fauci being marginalized and Trump talking about going back to normalcy in a week is a really bad sign for us all. Supposedly Pence is annoyed with the handling of this all. There used to be rumors early in Trump's presidency that the Republican's game plan was to eventually remove Trump and glorify Pence. If there was ever any truth to that, now's the time to exercise that option.

61% of voters approve of the way Trump has been handling the crisis, according to a new poll today by The Hill. His aggregate polling numbers have been mostly positive from what I've seen lately after a slow start. A lot can change, but I think people need to be really careful not to underestimate just how popular he is.

Also, Trump didn't say we are going back to normalcy in a week. He said that he considers the timeframe of lowering restrictions to be weeks, not months. Once we've significantly increased our medical capacity—hopefully sooner than later—we should start to see a gradual reduction over time, depending on how bad certain areas are.

[2018C3]

The Polls reported are biased, and all the news we see everyday is biased depending on who gives it out.

The only way to see what is really going on is to watch broadcasts promoting both sides of the story. I have caught both fox, cnn and others intententionly misleading people by cuting clips short, and only reporting one side of the story. The big news networks in place today are disgusting.

Real news should be independent of politics and just present facts, rather than try to manipulate agendas. As it stands now you have to cross check every story and view point told, only then can you come close to the full story.

[dice]

The Polls reported are biased

the poll was handled by a respected organization. it does not ask whether trump is handling the crisis well, though. it asks whether strong enough measures are being taken

less than 2 weeks ago it was only 47% approve. which was preposterous given that he was calling it a hoax

Real news should be independent of politics and just present facts, rather than try to manipulate agendas. As it stands now you have to cross check every story and view point told, only then can you come close to the full story.

agree that you should cross check, but not every news service has a political angle to work. in fact, there is only 1 mainstream news organization whose followers are less informed than people who don't actively follow any news source. and i think we know who that is

[ozbull]

Economy crashes amid global pandemic and politicians fail to act quickly enough, then argue over bailing out people or corporations with taxpayer money:

"This is not the time to talk about politics."

Crazed gunman goes to local Kmart, buys a military weapon in 8 seconds, kills 50 people in 3 minutes:

"This is not the time to talk about gun reform."

Areas across Australia the size of European countries in flames, months before bush fire season:

"This is not the time to talk about climate change."



Just an FYI: It is never a good time to talk about reform that can improve your lives when it comes at a cost to those who benefit from the system staying the way it is.

Your country is violently ill. NOW is the time to talk about politics. For God sake, help yourselves, stop avoiding hard conversations.

[bullsnewdynasty]

What a bunch of nonsense....

As if Japan, Italy, the UK, Australia, China, New Zealand, Iran, etc. all got on a conference call with the American “left” and decided that the world economy is secondary to beating Trump in the next election.....

This is as absurd as the birther nonsense.. Obama was born in Kenya and somehow managed a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper... it was a conspiracy by the left... they uhhh, either time traveled or were so wickedly powerful that they knew a baby born in Kenya was their one hope to lead, so they put in the birth announcement and moved the pieces so that baby Obama would one day lead....

But hey, maybe it’s all true... maybe they’re running the world from their Comet ping pong pizza lair, in that invisible, non existent basement.


Damn, if “democrats” are that powerful at putting things into motion.... how exactly do they ever lose an election, let alone a vote in the senate...

Trump didn't issue stay at home orders, the Democrat governors did. But I'm sure Trump will get blamed for the resulting 30% unemployment and GDP contraction though if this continues for any length of time.

You cannot shut down your economy without major consequences. Entire sectors are in the process of getting wiped out, yet people here are actively encouraging more shutdowns and stay at home orders. It's not sustainable and will lead to mass unemployment and bankruptcies on a scale that hasn't been seen since the Great Depression.

[HomoSapien]

Fauci being marginalized and Trump talking about going back to normalcy in a week is a really bad sign for us all. Supposedly Pence is annoyed with the handling of this all. There used to be rumors early in Trump's presidency that the Republican's game plan was to eventually remove Trump and glorify Pence. If there was ever any truth to that, now's the time to exercise that option.

61% of voters approve of the way Trump has been handling the crisis, according to a new poll today by The Hill. His aggregate polling numbers have been mostly positive from what I've seen lately after a slow start. A lot can change, but I think people need to be really careful not to underestimate just how popular he is.

Also, Trump didn't say we are going back to normalcy in a week. He said that he considers the timeframe of lowering restrictions to be weeks, not months. Once we've significantly increased our medical capacity—hopefully sooner than later—we should start to see a gradual reduction over time, depending on how bad certain areas are.

Look, both of us can try and analyze his tweet about how he's going to make a decision on "which way to go" at the end of our 15 day period (which is next week), but it sure sounds like he's ready to go back to normalcy despite how members of his own office are saying that this could last for 18 months. And increasing our medical capacity is going to have no impact until there's an actual vaccine out there. You're not lowering the chances of the at risk population's health by sending people back to their jobs in weeks, and we haven't done nearly enough to curb this when places like Florida and Texas are being mismanaged.

And of course, no one should underestimate his popularity. That's what got us into this mess in the first place. But his incompetence is really going to show in the next few weeks when this really starts to get bad. As for polls, a week ago only 37% of the population trusted what Donald Trump was telling them about the virus. It's going to keep fluctuating.

As for my previous post, I don't anticipate Republicans to oust Trump, but when this gets real bad, the economy keeps tanking, and incompetence leads to loss of life it may end up being the breaking point we haven't seen yet.

[HomoSapien]

What a bunch of nonsense....

As if Japan, Italy, the UK, Australia, China, New Zealand, Iran, etc. all got on a conference call with the American “left” and decided that the world economy is secondary to beating Trump in the next election.....

This is as absurd as the birther nonsense.. Obama was born in Kenya and somehow managed a birth announcement in a Hawaiian newspaper... it was a conspiracy by the left... they uhhh, either time traveled or were so wickedly powerful that they knew a baby born in Kenya was their one hope to lead, so they put in the birth announcement and moved the pieces so that baby Obama would one day lead....

But hey, maybe it’s all true... maybe they’re running the world from their Comet ping pong pizza lair, in that invisible, non existent basement.


Damn, if “democrats” are that powerful at putting things into motion.... how exactly do they ever lose an election, let alone a vote in the senate...

Trump didn't issue stay at home orders, the Democrat governors did. But I'm sure Trump will get blamed for the resulting 30% unemployment and GDP contraction though if this continues for any length of time.

You cannot shut down your economy without major consequences. Entire sectors are in the process of getting wiped out, yet people here are actively encouraging more shutdowns and stay at home orders. It's not sustainable and will lead to mass unemployment and bankruptcies on a scale that hasn't been seen since the Great Depression.

A global depression is inevitable now. This is the reality of the situation.

[AKfanatic]

[dougthonus]

less than 2 weeks ago it was only 47% approve. which was preposterous given that he was calling it a hoax

2 weeks ago, the majority of the nation may have felt it was not a significant threat though, so that's very believable to me.

[dougthonus]

A global depression is inevitable now. This is the reality of the situation.

I would say a global recession is inevitable now. I don't know if a depression is inevitable yet.

It's also interesting to me, because I'm still not sure if we're taking the right steps. The goal with the shutdown should be to prepare. We probably can't stay shut down long enough to flatten the curve via social distancing, but we can shut down long enough to make preparations to flatten the curve.

1: Everyone going back to work or stores must wear PPE at all times (production of PPE must ramp up, and we must switch to reusable PPE not disposable PPE wherever possible)

2: Everyone that can work at home should remain working at home to limit public transportation use.

3: Testing is freely available to anyone who has symptoms at any time, and anyone who tests positive has to then be quarantined and tests are then given out to everyone they've had contact with.

If you take those steps you may not kill this thing off, but you can probably keep the infection rate down to a reasonable level.

I don't know if we've gone to wartime like production of PPE and tests or if we've thought about the procedural changes we'll need.

I think we may be too late (and not aggressive enough) to put an end to this like SK and China may have.

[Fl_Flash]

agree that you should cross check, but not every news service has a political angle to work. in fact, there is only 1 mainstream news organization whose followers are less informed than people who don't actively follow any news source. and i think we know who that is

MSNBC? Huffington Post? CNN?

[moorhosj]

I don't think people should be trying to push political agendas in this time, and that goes for both sides, In times like this people need to put there views aside, and work towards coming together.

This logic brought us Wall Street bailouts, endless quantitative easing, war in Iraq, the Patriot Act and more. We are still trying to put those genies back in the bottle. If you don’t act political in a time of crisis, the other guy will.

[coldfish]

A global depression is inevitable now. This is the reality of the situation.

I would say a global recession is inevitable now. I don't know if a depression is inevitable yet.

It's also interesting to me, because I'm still not sure if we're taking the right steps. The goal with the shutdown should be to prepare. We probably can't stay shut down long enough to flatten the curve via social distancing, but we can shut down long enough to make preparations to flatten the curve.

1: Everyone going back to work or stores must wear PPE at all times (production of PPE must ramp up, and we must switch to reusable PPE not disposable PPE wherever possible)

2: Everyone that can work at home should remain working at home to limit public transportation use.

3: Testing is freely available to anyone who has symptoms at any time, and anyone who tests positive has to then be quarantined and tests are then given out to everyone they've had contact with.

If you take those steps you may not kill this thing off, but you can probably keep the infection rate down to a reasonable level.

I don't know if we've gone to wartime like production of PPE and tests or if we've thought about the procedural changes we'll need.

I think we may be too late (and not aggressive enough) to put an end to this like SK and China may have.

The coldfish plan:

Step 1: Epidemic mitigation 2-4 weeks

Continue with existing plans for another 2-3 weeks. Large scale shutdowns and anything to socially distance. Italy is working. Will save countless lives. In the mean time, be ramping up for

Step 2: Wack a mole 10 months

With massive testing and fast results, be able to quickly test anyone who even feels a little gassy. If they test positive, quarantine for 2 weeks and test anyone they have been in contact with. Give them tamiflu and whatever else we find that mitigates the direction of the virus. Put screening on front door of any elderly spot. Anyone who wants to come in must be tested and wait for the test results. In the mean time, be ramping up for

Step 3: Vaccination

Once vaccines are in place, vaccinate everyone.

Step 4: Well, let's not do that again

Both nationally and globally, put laws, agencies and systems in place to drastically reduce the chance of this happening on a global scale ever again.

[League Circles]

Apparently the congress doesn't have a system in place to vote remotely. 20-30 years after widespread internet usage. What a **** disgrace. To me that basically is a deal breaker on everyone who has been in congress for decades. They're a bunch of low IQ, incompetent ideologues. What in the flying **** were they going to do if someone had nuked or even just attacked Washington DC? What a world. What pathetic leaders we've had.

[moorhosj]

agree that you should cross check, but not every news service has a political angle to work. in fact, there is only 1 mainstream news organization whose followers are less informed than people who don't actively follow any news source. and i think we know who that is

MSNBC? Huffington Post? CNN?

Nah, but you knew that.

A new study by Bruce Bartlett, a conservative economist, top official in the H.W. Bush administration and domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan, concluded that Fox News viewers tend to be less informed and engage in "self-brainwashing."

You can read the study yourself: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2604679