Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread V (Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[First Step]

I think this makes up for just about every bone-headed thing I’ve heard about Dan Gilbert (I’ll never make fun of Comic Sans again):

https://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-billionaire-dan-gilbert-waiving-small-business-rent-payments-coronavirus-2020-3

A Detroit-based real-estate company owned by Quicken Loans cofounder Dan Gilbert is waiving rent and parking payments for up to three months for the small businesses located in buildings.

Select businesses that are located in Bedrock buildings will not be charged for rent, parking, or other expenses through the end of June, the company announced in a statement released on Monday. To qualify for the program, a business needs only to meet the Small Business Administration's definition of a "small business" for a specific industry.

"As with all of our tenants, entrepreneurs and small businesses play an incredibly important role in our local economy, which has been central to Dan Gilbert's vision over the last 10 years of his investments in Detroit and Cleveland," Bedrock CEO Matt Cullen said in a statement. "It is going to take the entire community to mitigate the effects of this pandemic on the region, and we are happy to do our part to help our portfolio's most vulnerable businesses weather the storm.

Comic-Sans is still in play.

[LKN]

Gov Cuomo in NY speaking now:

Rate of infection doubling every three days in NY. Had projected they would need 110,000 hospital beds. Now think need 140,000 hospital beds. Have 53,000 now. Peak may not hit for two or three weeks

If Cuomo manages to stop NY from becoming the next Italy we should seriously just make him president. That would be an incredible accomplishment. I think it's quite possibly too late, but what he's done so far is incredible regardless of outcome.

His state is absolutely destroyed. That's not a ringing endorsement.

His state is the only one that has a clue what's going on because they are the only people testing at anything close to the rates that are needed.

[BadMofoPimp]

Mark Cuban said that he thinks the league could start up again in mid-May. That is encouraging. He said that all of the discussions he has had leads him to believe the over/under is June 1st and he took the under.

If they play without fans in attendance I could possibly see that. Assuming we have adequate testing and all players/refs/etc stay quarantined.

The NBA could install Screens with speakers on every seat that way people can be seen and heard from Home by the players!

[NBAFan93]

I think this makes up for just about every bone-headed thing I’ve heard about Dan Gilbert (I’ll never make fun of Comic Sans again):

https://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-billionaire-dan-gilbert-waiving-small-business-rent-payments-coronavirus-2020-3

A Detroit-based real-estate company owned by Quicken Loans cofounder Dan Gilbert is waiving rent and parking payments for up to three months for the small businesses located in buildings.

Select businesses that are located in Bedrock buildings will not be charged for rent, parking, or other expenses through the end of June, the company announced in a statement released on Monday. To qualify for the program, a business needs only to meet the Small Business Administration's definition of a "small business" for a specific industry.

"As with all of our tenants, entrepreneurs and small businesses play an incredibly important role in our local economy, which has been central to Dan Gilbert's vision over the last 10 years of his investments in Detroit and Cleveland," Bedrock CEO Matt Cullen said in a statement. "It is going to take the entire community to mitigate the effects of this pandemic on the region, and we are happy to do our part to help our portfolio's most vulnerable businesses weather the storm.

That is really nice of Gilbert. I wonder if most of those small businesses have been forced to shut down (like what’s happening in my state) or if they are still operating?

I’m sure he/his people have done some analysis that determined that the effet on his business is the same or better off if he does this, but still...it’s nice to see.

[LKN]

Really worried that bad things are about to happen in CA and FL that they are blind to due to this:

Read on Twitter

?s=20

[OkcSinceSGA]

https://youtu.be/7h9UXkDaI5A

Dr in NY who is 350-0 with Zpak+Hydrochloroquine+Zinc combo. Speaks about the results.

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[Ambrose]

If Cuomo manages to stop NY from becoming the next Italy we should seriously just make him president. That would be an incredible accomplishment. I think it's quite possibly too late, but what he's done so far is incredible regardless of outcome.

His state is absolutely destroyed. That's not a ringing endorsement.

His state is the only one that has a clue what's going on because they are the only people testing at anything close to the rates that are needed.

And are still worse off than anywhere else in the country.

[Pharmcat]

His state is absolutely destroyed. That's not a ringing endorsement.

His state is the only one that has a clue what's going on because they are the only people testing at anything close to the rates that are needed.

And are still worse off than anywhere else in the country.

Ignoring the problem does not mean you will be better off. Let's see how the next couple weeks go for other states

[LKN]

Awesome - so now doctors are stockpiling chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine,remdesivir, etc for themselves and their buddies.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/business/coronavirus-doctors-hoard-drugs.html

[bulliedog8]

Awesome - so now doctors are stockpiling chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine,remdesivir, etc for themselves and their buddies.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/business/coronavirus-doctors-hoard-drugs.html

Why would they do that? The media has been claiming this whole time that those drugs dont work because Trump has no evidence that they work. (even though they have show to work and multiple studies are currently going on still).

[Ainosterhaspie]

California was one of the first to start locking things down. Fresno was locked down with under five confirmed cases. San Francisco has been locked down for about two weeks. The whole state had a lockdown ordered last Thursday.

Now obviously the lockdowns are not to the level where no one can leave home, but there has been a significant alteration in every day behavior for several days which will help slow the spread.

On top of that, California is a very large state in terms of land and while there are certainly areas if dense population where more rapid spread is likely, the overall population density is likely to be less of a contributing factor to spread than other places. California is also less reliant on public transportation than New York city which makes it easier for California.

Testing is important, but in and of itself, it does little to control the spread without aggressive contact tracing and quaranteening. The spread can be slowed without testing by using social distancing which is currently widespread in California.

[LKN]

California was one of the first to start locking things down. Fresno was locked down with under five confirmed cases. San Francisco has been locked down for about two weeks. The whole state had a lockdown ordered last Thursday.

Now obviously the lockdowns are not to the level where no one can leave home, but there has been a significant alteration in every day behavior for several days which will help slow the spread.

On top of that, California is a very large state in terms of land and while there are certainly areas if dense population where more rapid spread is likely, the overall population density is likely to be less of a contributing factor to spread than other places. California is also less reliant on public transportation than New York city which makes it easier for California.

Testing is important, but in and of itself, it does little to control the spread without aggressive contact tracing and quaranteening. The spread can be slowed without testing by using social distancing which is currently widespread in California.

Fair point - Florida might actually be the bigger sleeping giant. They still are basically doing little to nothing in a lot of areas.

[OrlChamps2030]

California was one of the first to start locking things down. Fresno was locked down with under five confirmed cases. San Francisco has been locked down for about two weeks. The whole state had a lockdown ordered last Thursday.

Now obviously the lockdowns are not to the level where no one can leave home, but there has been a significant alteration in every day behavior for several days which will help slow the spread.

On top of that, California is a very large state in terms of land and while there are certainly areas if dense population where more rapid spread is likely, the overall population density is likely to be less of a contributing factor to spread than other places. California is also less reliant on public transportation than New York city which makes it easier for California.

Testing is important, but in and of itself, it does little to control the spread without aggressive contact tracing and quaranteening. The spread can be slowed without testing by using social distancing which is currently widespread in California.

Fair point - Florida might actually be the bigger sleeping giant. They still are basically doing little to nothing in a lot of areas.

Sitting in an office at work in Florida rn.. my coworker just got a call from his child’s mother saying someone tested positive at her office.. He told us and everyone just laughed, made some jokes, and got back to work.

[Bandit King]

California was one of the first to start locking things down. Fresno was locked down with under five confirmed cases. San Francisco has been locked down for about two weeks. The whole state had a lockdown ordered last Thursday.

Now obviously the lockdowns are not to the level where no one can leave home, but there has been a significant alteration in every day behavior for several days which will help slow the spread.

On top of that, California is a very large state in terms of land and while there are certainly areas if dense population where more rapid spread is likely, the overall population density is likely to be less of a contributing factor to spread than other places. California is also less reliant on public transportation than New York city which makes it easier for California.

Testing is important, but in and of itself, it does little to control the spread without aggressive contact tracing and quaranteening. The spread can be slowed without testing by using social distancing which is currently widespread in California.

Fair point - Florida might actually be the bigger sleeping giant. They still are basically doing little to nothing in a lot of areas.

Sitting in an office at work in Florida rn.. my coworker just got a call from his child’s mother saying someone tested positive at her office.. He told us and everyone just laughed, made some jokes, and got back to work.

HIGH FIVE!

[Dirk]

[NBAFan93]

Good twitter thread from yesterday (don't think I saw posted).

Read on Twitter

When I read that stuff about these projected shortages - can’t we just put more people to work to make those items that are needed? It’s like we’re running to our houses in retreat as opposed to fighting the problem. We need more masks and supplies and hospital rooms? - get out there and make and build them. If the virus was a nation that attacked us in an act of war like what happened w/ Pearl Harbor, wouldn’t people be signing up to fight even if it meant death?

I am still not comfortable with this complete disregard towards what these shutdowns are doing to our economy. A depression w/ mass unemployment and bankruptcies will lead to so many issues that could kill people too.

[Ecmic]

And are still worse off than anywhere else in the country.

Ignoring the problem does not mean you will be better off. Let's see how the next couple weeks go for other states

So you are saying all other states but NY are "ignoring the problem"? Is that really what you are saying? Or is it..MAYBE..that New York is receiving priority over every other state when it comes to the number of tests that are made available?

New York isn’t receiving priority. The state was begging the CDC for tests since February 2nd. They were ignored.

The state has partnered with private labs, and has begun to make its own tests.

[ItsDanger]

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
"Every time this idiot does a conference the futures market just tanks, his conferences are literally short signals now."

I replied early Sunday evening:

"More likely due to Congress not passing stimulus bill yet. I think they're voting in 30 minutes."

Market is up strong today after stimulus bill passed. How it lasts is hard to say.

Not copying this from previous thread to pick on one poster. BUT I urge any reader to not trust any poster here with regards to financial markets. I work in that sector and I guarantee you 99.9% of people in this industry knew my statement to be true. Red or blue has no meaning with money, just green, remember that.

[Driguez]

California was one of the first to start locking things down. Fresno was locked down with under five confirmed cases. San Francisco has been locked down for about two weeks. The whole state had a lockdown ordered last Thursday.

Now obviously the lockdowns are not to the level where no one can leave home, but there has been a significant alteration in every day behavior for several days which will help slow the spread.

On top of that, California is a very large state in terms of land and while there are certainly areas if dense population where more rapid spread is likely, the overall population density is likely to be less of a contributing factor to spread than other places. California is also less reliant on public transportation than New York city which makes it easier for California.

Testing is important, but in and of itself, it does little to control the spread without aggressive contact tracing and quaranteening. The spread can be slowed without testing by using social distancing which is currently widespread in California.

Fair point - Florida might actually be the bigger sleeping giant. They still are basically doing little to nothing in a lot of areas.

Sitting in an office at work in Florida rn.. my coworker just got a call from his child’s mother saying someone tested positive at her office.. He told us and everyone just laughed, made some jokes, and got back to work.

Today 4 teammates are in quarantine with one already testing positive, yet here we are at work. DeSantis has been such a failure.

[sfernald]

If they are gonna open up the economy then 1) they should make it a punishable law for individuals to go out without n95 masks, 2) require business to supply hand sanitizer to all customers and achieve the highest sanitary standards possible and 3) before we even think about doing this make sure there’s a billion masks ready to go and maybe we could have Amazon ship everyone a dozen masks to start.