Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread V (Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[Neutral 123]

94 out of 170 of New Orleans EMS task force have been exposed to Covid-19.

Im afraid that with so many health care workers and EMS, contracting and being exposed to coronavirus, that they'll be limited to respond to everyday emergencies.


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A doctor on CBS is saying that it is imperitive to test healthy people with a new test to determine if they have already have had the virus since they will be immune and can be on the front lines helping the sick.

Wow they know all that already?

They don't. From what I've seen, viral load and multiple exposure almost guarantees death. That's why China had so many dead healthcare workers.

[zimpy27]

For deeper reading. You can see some models here and the projected impact.

I.e, you can see

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Extend that out. The problem is this spreads so rapidly that even with these measures you end up with incredible spread very quickly regardless. That's why a total shut down or some method of stopping spread almost entirely is necessary. There are likely a million infected in America already.

Thats not going to be overcome with half measures. This is already a bloodbath.

Lol there's like a million in Miami-Dade County alone, easily. Easily. The symptoms for most are mild or non-existent for now. We'll see in the coming days. But as I've stated countless times, my concern is for the people who aren't of perfect health and spreading it to them.

Health won't help you much from this thing becoming serious. Health will mostly come in handy when you are serious.

It's estimated that up to 30% have no symptoms.

Age is a main factor because of immune cell types and cell regrowth rates.

[LKN]

So about those Russian test numbers........

Read on Twitter

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[KingDavid]

Extend that out. The problem is this spreads so rapidly that even with these measures you end up with incredible spread very quickly regardless. That's why a total shut down or some method of stopping spread almost entirely is necessary. There are likely a million infected in America already.

Thats not going to be overcome with half measures. This is already a bloodbath.

Lol there's like a million in Miami-Dade County alone, easily. Easily. The symptoms for most are mild or non-existent for now. We'll see in the coming days. But as I've stated countless times, my concern is for the people who aren't of perfect health and spreading it to them.

Health won't help you much from this thing becoming serious. Health will mostly come in handy when you are serious.

It's estimated that up to 30% have no symptoms.

Age is a main factor because of immune cell types and cell regrowth rates.

Cell regrowth rates...would this be in line with autophagy?!

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Did the stock market bottom out already now that the stimulus package was passed

[LKN]

Did the stock market bottom out already now that the stimulus package was passed

Yesterday's rally was because of the stimulus package... now they are taking profits. But the rumour, sell the news.

Just wait until unemployment #s are posted

[spacemonkey]

The more things change...

Read on Twitter

[mtron929]

Did the stock market bottom out already now that the stimulus package was passed

There's no way it bottomed out. This is a dead cat bounce.

[Pointgod]

So about those Russian test numbers........

Read on Twitter

?s=20

Yeah anyone believing what’s coming from authoritarians is a sucker. The Russian numbers definitely aren’t up to snuff.

[Optimus_Steel]

Did the stock market bottom out already now that the stimulus package was passed

There's no way it bottomed out. This is a dead cat bounce.

Agreed. This was a temporary reaction to the stimulus but wont sustain because the measures taken are still well below what is needed. No rent, mortgage, utility, credit card payment suspensions have been ordered on a national level. Some municipalities have taken some steps but to do so but its piece meal. Also as was mentioned before the unemployment numbers haven't been shared and when it does its going to be scary.

[bwgood77]

Are they still going to make some folks in certain sectors go back to work before the four months is up?

Well, if they're unemployed, it may not be up to them, unless the company has promised them a job again at some point. But most companies will probably have slowed business for awhile. If they are not promised a job, it might be good to look, but it would be difficult to interview if your city has a shelter in place offer. After that, i might be good to interview so you'd have a job after that 4 months is up. To get unemployment you usually have to show evidence you are looking and fill out forms showing what companies you applied to, etc...but they may have waived that part for a couple months.

[LKN]

Are they still going to make some folks in certain sectors go back to work before the four months is up?

Well, if they're unemployed, it may not be up to them, unless the company has promised them a job again at some point. But most companies will probably have slowed business for awhile. If they are not promised a job, it might be good to look, but it would be difficult to interview if your city has a shelter in place offer. After that, i might be good to interview so you'd have a job after that 4 months is up. To get unemployment you usually have to show evidence you are looking and fill out forms showing what companies you applied to, etc...but they may have waived that part for a couple months.

I'm guessing this will be pretty relaxed; unemployment offices won't even be physically open. I'm guessing most states will either waive requirements temporarily or look the other way.

[sfernald]

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[BadMofoPimp]

Not enough tests for that. Wish I could get tested if I knew the results would help. I'd be the first in line.

This is a completely different type of test.

Not enough tests for that. Wish I could get tested if I knew the results would help. I'd be the first in line.

It would be an antibody test that would be able to tell if you've had it or not. I think they'll be testing people like crazy for that next. If you have antibodies, you're immune and would be able to go back to work.

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Ohhhhhhhhhh! Shoot sign me up.

I wonder if it can tell when I've had it. Because man, Thanksgiving day, I had all these symptoms and never had any form of respiratory distress in my life before then. It took a lot of effort to breathe normally. I honestly contemplated calling 911. No otc was working to contain my symptoms. Had a flu a couple of weeks before that, too. It's as if it came back outta nowhere.

But it was probably just the flu. Idk.

On Feb. 2nd, I got a massive chest infection. It was so severe, I had problems breathing for almost 3 weeks. I felt like crap as well but wasn't sure if I had a fever because I was taking Dayquil Severe every 4-6 hours for almost 2 weeks. At least with that Dayquil, the cough was manageable. I mentioned it to my superiors and went to urgent care, but they determined since I didn't have a fever (this was on the 4th or 5th day after cough started), that it was a Chest Infection and prescribed me anti-biotics which didn't work. But, Dayquil helped alot. Not sure if it was a Chest Infection, some form of Flu (which people had in my area) or Coronavirus. Besides, nobody else got sick around me but my co-worker and his girlfriend who got much sicker, but got better after 4-5 days.

[Badonkadonk]

Did the stock market bottom out already now that the stimulus package was passed

There's no way it bottomed out. This is a dead cat bounce.

The stimulus package is irrelevant if the spread of the virus isn't slowed. That's what will lead to unemployment, demand for goods & services cratering and businesses shuttering. Also, the US is linked to the global economy and we've seen economic strife in other regions impact things domestically many times before. So even if the US somehow figures out how to keep economic activity stable as more and more of the population gets sick (at a faster rate than other countries), things won't be back to 'normal' for a long time.

As noted by others, I'm looking at unemployment numbers and 1st quarter financial reports (I expect 2nd quarter to reflect more of the slowdown than 1st, but we should see the beginnings of the trend).

[Slacktard]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/all-residents-of-virus-stricken-nj-nursing-home-now-assumed-to-be-infected/2343436/

All of the residents of a coronavirus-stricken nursing home in Woodbridge are now presumed to have the virus, and they are being moved to another location for treatment, local government sources told News 4 on Wednesday.

New Jersey health officials said Tuesday that many of the residents of the St. Joseph's Senior Home had taken ill, and many of the staff were out sick as well. That meant there were just 3 nuns left to take care of nearly 100 people.

Of the 94 total residents, 24 are now positive for COVID-19 and the other 70 are "presumptive positive," government sources said Wednesday. They are now being moved from the Woodbridge facility to a CareOne home in Whippany, roughly 30 miles to the north.

Damn. I hope this isn't going to be like the Kirkland, Washington senior home.

[zimpy27]

Lol there's like a million in Miami-Dade County alone, easily. Easily. The symptoms for most are mild or non-existent for now. We'll see in the coming days. But as I've stated countless times, my concern is for the people who aren't of perfect health and spreading it to them.

Health won't help you much from this thing becoming serious. Health will mostly come in handy when you are serious.

It's estimated that up to 30% have no symptoms.

Age is a main factor because of immune cell types and cell regrowth rates.

Cell regrowth rates...would this be in line with autophagy?!

Sort of, it is a component but autophagy is a broad concept. The support for quality lung cell turnover is better when young. It helps survival if you can replenish the damage done by the virus/immune response.

People are dying largely because of oxygen starvation and any factor exacerbating that is going to be a factor once the virus starts affecting the lungs (smoking, air pollution, floppy airways because of age, poor cell regrowth, poor diaphragm muscles, morbid obesity, excessive lung inflammation, etc). Many of these are age-related, but the important factor initially are the immune cell types in the young that reduce the chance of them getting a significant lung issue in the first place.

[zimpy27]

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/all-residents-of-virus-stricken-nj-nursing-home-now-assumed-to-be-infected/2343436/

All of the residents of a coronavirus-stricken nursing home in Woodbridge are now presumed to have the virus, and they are being moved to another location for treatment, local government sources told News 4 on Wednesday.

New Jersey health officials said Tuesday that many of the residents of the St. Joseph's Senior Home had taken ill, and many of the staff were out sick as well. That meant there were just 3 nuns left to take care of nearly 100 people.

Of the 94 total residents, 24 are now positive for COVID-19 and the other 70 are "presumptive positive," government sources said Wednesday. They are now being moved from the Woodbridge facility to a CareOne home in Whippany, roughly 30 miles to the north.

Damn. I hope this isn't going to be like the Kirkland, Washington senior home.

It will be, super sad

[madmaxmedia]

I think this is a pretty spot-on analysis of the idea of the country ‘opening for business’ and ‘packing churches’ on Easter:

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-markets-6bc1e3bb-2332-4bad-a526-0e00ca710956.html

TLDR; Basically the worst of all worlds. Virus spreads even more, people are still afraid to travel or do anything, out of fear for health and doubt in capacity of our health care system, so it doesn’t even help the economy that much.

[LKN]

I think this is a pretty spot-on analysis of the idea of the country ‘opening for business’ and ‘packing churches’ on Easter:

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-markets-6bc1e3bb-2332-4bad-a526-0e00ca710956.html

TLDR; Basically the worst of all worlds. Virus spreads even more, people are still afraid to travel or do anything, out of fear for health and doubt in capacity of our health care system, so it doesn’t even help the economy that much.

My (not so bold) prediction - it would make the economy even worse.