Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

LKN · Post #21 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:54 pm

Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

Post #22 » by **Dirk** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:01 pm

LKN wrote:Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

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New York coronavirus cases March 28

7683 new confirmed cases vs 7377 yesterday
17.2% rise in cases today vs 19.8% yesterday
Tests yesterday 17,412
Hit rate yesterday 44% vs total case hit rate 33% in New York
728 deaths total vs 519 yesterday (209 deaths yesterday vs +134 a day earlier)
ICU admissions yesterday 172 vs 374 a day earlier
Total in ICU 1755 vs 1583 yesterday
7328 hospitalized
681 people discharged yesterday to 2726 total

BallSacBounce · Post #23 » by **BallSacBounce** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:03 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:I'm just happy today is the first day I feel I've turned the corner this week on whatever I have. I think it's covid but the labs are so overworked right now my test from Tuesday hasn't even given me flu/influenza results yet. But I started feeling off last Friday so it was a full 7 days of a mixture of miserable and just wholly uncomfortable.

Dry cough, muscle pain, coughing fits for an hour after I woke up with 102.5 fevers ranged 38.2-39.2 for my Celsius Bros. Fever dreams. Feeling like a woman in menapause (hot cold hot cold). It got bad enough at times I had to focus
on breathing to get a 3 count in and a 2 count out before I coughed.

I'm in central Florida and I live in a neighborhood with 90% age 65+. It's gonna be bad imho. I'm 33 and this is the most sick I've been in my adult life. It just gives you hope in the day and decends...like a bat? At night.

Stay safe and stay isolated y'all. You don't want none of this. Fortunately my wife and 5 month old did not catch it. I spent all week in a different room using different shower and different cups utensils and all. It's rough

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It sucks not getting your results yet but helpful IMO to know you are much more likely to have the regular flu.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronavirus/bs-md-coronavirus-saturday-20200328-7w4jhwjwyrbb5onr4g5uuqvwe4-story.html
Maryland nears 1,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus; 11,516 negative tests.

I've read that people being tested are negative for Covid-19 94-98% of the time. Of course, that isn't helpful if you have it. I hope get better soon and your family is safe.

LKN · Post #24 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:04 pm

Dirk wrote:
LKN wrote:Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

Key figure: number of tests.
44% of New York State tests for coronavirus were positive yesterday (7,681/17,412)

That's terrifying considering how many people they are testing.

BallSacBounce · Post #25 » by **BallSacBounce** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:13 pm

chrismikayla wrote:There will probably never be a scientific answer for this. But I wonder how much dehydration plays in severe symptoms as well. I've heard many nurses say that dehydration affects your body's ability to mount an effective immune response in your body. It also places strain on your kidneys and heart.I know my cold symptoms are much worse if I don't maintain and increase fluid and electrolyte intake.

Great point! Us coffee drinkers need to be aware of this!

Post #26 » by **Dirk** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:16 pm

Italia, update

• Current cases: 70,065 (+3,651 compared with yesterday)
• Deceased: 10,023 (+889)
• Healed: 12,384 (+1,434)
• Hospitalized in intensive care: 3,856 (+124)

Total cases: 92,472 (+5,974, + 6.9%)

BallSacBounce · Post #27 » by **BallSacBounce** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:22 pm

TMU wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Fashionable masks will show up in a month or two, and Americans will wear them as they see celebrities doing it. Expect Nike and Adidas to have some, and high fashion to have expensive designer masks.

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And our idiot Surgeon General and CDC said not to. Everyone should wear masks in public. South Korea did it right.

Yeah I laughed at the absurdity of saying the masks won't help. If they didn't the healthcare workers wouldn't need them. In fairness I think they said that to help alleviate the shortage of masks. They should have just said don't buy them and why directly. Such a bad precedent.

Post #28 » by **zimpy27** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:23 pm

Dirk wrote:
LKN wrote:Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

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New York coronavirus cases March 28

7683 new confirmed cases vs 7377 yesterday
17.2% rise in cases today vs 19.8% yesterday
Tests yesterday 17,412
Hit rate yesterday 44% vs total case hit rate 33% in New York
728 deaths total vs 519 yesterday (209 deaths yesterday vs +134 a day earlier)
ICU admissions yesterday 172 vs 374 a day earlier
Total in ICU 1755 vs 1583 yesterday
7328 hospitalized
681 people discharged yesterday to 2726 total

Two in every three that enter ICU seem to die. Maybe more but those numbers may take weeks to show.

Post #29 » by **ken6199** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:23 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=19

CDC's grand plan:
We have mask shortage, what do we do?
Oh, lie to the public, tell them it's not "effective", "only wear it when you are sick", "it can even harm you". We can redirect the mask traffic
****, situation is getting worse now, still having mask shortage
So let's tell them masks are helpful.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #30 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:32 pm

Close the **** parks, people are too stupid to be relied on to do the right thing.

Read on Twitter

?s=19

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LKN · Post #31 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:32 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
LKN wrote:Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

umbers
New York coronavirus cases March 28

7683 new confirmed cases vs 7377 yesterday
17.2% rise in cases today vs 19.8% yesterday
Tests yesterday 17,412
Hit rate yesterday 44% vs total case hit rate 33% in New York
728 deaths total vs 519 yesterday (209 deaths yesterday vs +134 a day earlier)
ICU admissions yesterday 172 vs 374 a day earlier
Total in ICU 1755 vs 1583 yesterday
7328 hospitalized
681 people discharged yesterday to 2726 total

Two in every three that enter ICU seem to die. Maybe more but those numbers may take weeks to show.

Everyone will have to start making hard decisions like Italy. Hard to justify having someone who is 80-90% likely to die taking up an ICU bed for a week if you have other patients with a 50/50 shot or better.

LKN · Post #32 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:33 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
TMU wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Fashionable masks will show up in a month or two, and Americans will wear them as they see celebrities doing it. Expect Nike and Adidas to have some, and high fashion to have expensive designer masks.

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using RealGM mobile app

And our idiot Surgeon General and CDC said not to. Everyone should wear masks in public. South Korea did it right.

Yeah I laughed at the absurdity of saying the masks won't help. If they didn't the healthcare workers wouldn't need them. In fairness I think they said that to help alleviate the shortage of masks. They should have just said don't buy them and why directly. Such a bad precedent.

Even regular masks (not n95) will help some. I mean let's say it only makes someone 5% less contagious.... it not's like wearing a mask hurts in any way so you might as well do it

Post #33 » by **ken6199** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:34 pm

LKN wrote:Ugh - yesterday NY reported 7,285 new infections and 140 new deaths for the entire day. Today we already have 6,056 infections and 122 new deaths and it's not even 1 PM eastern. Just awful

If they recommended new Yorkers to wear masks 4 weeks ago, it would have saved tons of masks from the medical staffer to treat the sick / tons of lives / tons of ventilators / tons of other resources. The numbers would be nowhere near this. Surgical mask protects you from spreading the virus to others when it's UNKNOWN whether you are sick or not, and at this time we have to treat everyone as UNKNOWN.

If they had shutdown NY two weeks earlier, they would have achieved much more. This is NY, not Wyoming.

People don't learn from their mistakes. Zaandam departed on March 7th, not Feb 7th. By that time there have already been multiple cruises that took heavy hit. Yet the cruise company went money over lives, and those individuals also took gambles with their health.

LKN · Post #34 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:34 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=20

DowJones · Post #35 » by **DowJones** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:37 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #36 » by **ken6199** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:39 pm

LKN wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
TMU wrote:
And our idiot Surgeon General and CDC said not to. Everyone should wear masks in public. South Korea did it right.

Yeah I laughed at the absurdity of saying the masks won't help. If they didn't the healthcare workers wouldn't need them. In fairness I think they said that to help alleviate the shortage of masks. They should have just said don't buy them and why directly. Such a bad precedent.

Even regular masks (not n95) will help some. I mean let's say it only makes someone 5% less contagious.... it not's like wearing a mask hurts in any way so you might as well do it

Even a home made mask helps. Plenty of videos on youtube. It only takes the leaders to send proper messages but no, surgeron general Jerome Adams chose to lie.

The craziest part is they forbid TSA officers and flight attendants to wear them to "avoid causing panic". You kidding me? You don't let people panic, so you prefer let them die.

BallSacBounce · Post #37 » by **BallSacBounce** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:39 pm

ken6199 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

CDC's grand plan:
We have mask shortage, what do we do?
Oh, lie to the public, tell them it's not "effective", "only wear it when you are sick", "it can even harm you". We can redirect the mask traffic
****, situation is getting worse now, still having mask shortage
So let's tell them masks are helpful.

It was dumb, dumb, dumb. This was/is even dumber.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/25/after-last-pandemic-task-force-advised-obama-to-avert-shortage-of-masks/

The federal government knew about a shortage of protective masks going back to 2009, after the H1N1 virus, but didn’t replenish its supply for the next pandemic, which arrived this year with the highly contagious coronavirus.

H1N1, also known as the swine flu, drew down about 100 million N95 protective respirator masks.

Afterward, an H1N1 task force recommended that the Obama administration replace the masks in the national stockpile, according to reporting by the Los Angeles Times and Bloomberg News.

This stupidity was bipartisan both Obama and Trump had ample time to re-supply. The buck stops there.

LKN · Post #38 » by **LKN** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:41 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
ken6199 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

CDC's grand plan:
We have mask shortage, what do we do?
Oh, lie to the public, tell them it's not "effective", "only wear it when you are sick", "it can even harm you". We can redirect the mask traffic
****, situation is getting worse now, still having mask shortage
So let's tell them masks are helpful.

It was dumb, dumb, dumb. This was/is even dumber.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/25/after-last-pandemic-task-force-advised-obama-to-avert-shortage-of-masks/

The federal government knew about a shortage of protective masks going back to 2009, after the H1N1 virus, but didn’t replenish its supply for the next pandemic, which arrived this year with the highly contagious coronavirus.

H1N1, also known as the swine flu, drew down about 100 million N95 protective respirator masks.

Afterward, an H1N1 task force recommended that the Obama administration replace the masks in the national stockpile, according to reporting by the Los Angeles Times and Bloomberg News.

This stupidity was bipartisan both Obama and Trump had ample time to re-supply. The buck stops there.

Susan Collins must be concerned - she was directly responsible for a huge cut to pandemic funding in 2009.

What I really don't get (and I'll save most of my thoughts for the CA forum) is why we didn't start stocking up on masks in February!!!!! We knew this thing was likely to be real trouble by the first week in Feb.... yet waited over a month to start doing anything with regards to PPE, ventilators, and even testing to some degree

DowJones · Post #39 » by **DowJones** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:42 pm

ken6199 wrote:
LKN wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Yeah I laughed at the absurdity of saying the masks won't help. If they didn't the healthcare workers wouldn't need them. In fairness I think they said that to help alleviate the shortage of masks. They should have just said don't buy them and why directly. Such a bad precedent.

You don't let people panic, so you prefer let them die.

Who are you arguing is choosing to "let people die"? Can you provide more context to this accusation? Thank you.

EH15 · Post #40 » by **EH15** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:43 pm

ken6199 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

CDC's grand plan:
We have mask shortage, what do we do?
Oh, lie to the public, tell them it's not "effective", "only wear it when you are sick", "it can even harm you". We can redirect the mask traffic
****, situation is getting worse now, still having mask shortage
So let's tell them masks are helpful.

Hard to come back when information is disseminated like this.

"just the flu"

And here we are. Good luck trying to change people's mentality about wearing masks now.