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OT: Democratic Primary Thread

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Who are you voting for?

Poll ended at Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Joe Biden - I have no idea why, and I also forgot what year it is
18
28%
Bernie Sanders - I am an intelligent human being, and understand Sanders is our last hope and America needs him
38
58%
Tulsi Gabbard (Dropped Out) - Ringo Starr is also my favorite Beatle
9
14%
 
Total votes: 65

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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#501 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:41 pm

Jeffrey wrote:
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No biggie, no planes needed. It looks like I'll drive to the Northeast this Summer and never look back. Fck Florida

Where are you coming and going?


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I was looking at Miami for potential relocation, my parents live near Vero beach. What do you dislike about Florida? Too many rednecks? Just go to the Miami


Too many to list. Drink that Florida water and for some reason your IQ just drops or two steps away from a mental institution.

Miami is cool but every where else... it's next level crazy


Even where there are pockets of enlightenment in Florida, it will always be rubbing up against extreme ignorance right next door.

The drug use among the white rednecks here is off the charts with multiple generations of tatted up criminals driving around blasting their sub-woofers who will cap you if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and they don't like the way you look at them. You see people tweaking all the time and there's plenty of street hookers.

That exists in other places too, don't get me wrong, but there's a high density of these aholes here. In the most upscale neighborhoods you'll miss all of this if you're sheltered, but in Florida the glory of derangement is visible by driving 10 minutes in any direction from my experience.

On top of that, this is one of the most corrupt states run by electoral thieves.

And Miami is no picnic. I'm on the Gulf side which is much better than the Eastern seaboard which is even more violent and dangerous. Miami as a vacation destination might seem like a nice place to go if you're heading to South Beach, but be careful where you wander late at night. The drivers in Miami are literally insane. It is often the worst and most reckless place of all. Don't know what's so cool about Miami TBH

And the last thing is Florida is a super transient place. Lots of the redneck stuff is locals, but it is also a place where people go to park their money and live where it is warm. But that also means you attract lots of know nothing, self-interested people who think they are hot stuff because they can afford to buy a house or a second home here. People with money in Florida generally tend to be among the most boring people I've met my whole life. They contribute nothing to the culture the majority of the time and do their best to separate themselves from people without money. Florida is the ultimate land of the haves and the have nots and neither are the basis for much culturally

There are good people and artists in Florida like anywhere, but they are overwhelmed by the sheer mediocrity of the rest of this state. It's a cultural wasteland for the most part
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#502 » by Pointgod » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:48 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I don't believe he's going to make it through the convention. He'll have the votes - probably even a reasonable majority of the elected delegates, but I just don't see how he gets the nom ... unless they change his meds to whatever Trump is taking.


Bernie has zero chance to get a plurality of delegates. Biden will probably put this thing away by May the latest. In the unlikely event that Bernie is still around leading up to the convention according to Bernie’s own words Biden should be the nominee. If you supported this line of thinking when Bernie was the front runner you should support it when Biden is as well.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#503 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:12 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter




I love old Joe. He'll make a nice piñata.

Seriously though, the Democrats are going with that? Wow.

Joe Rogan on Biden: "The man can barely remember what he's talking about while he's talking about it."



It's going be absolutely amazing to watch the DNC trot this guy out. The standard bearer for a major party will be a dementia victim.

Everyone will see it. There will be no hiding Sleepy Joe once the general starts. This election beatdown will be biblical.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#504 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:18 pm

Pointgod wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I don't believe he's going to make it through the convention. He'll have the votes - probably even a reasonable majority of the elected delegates, but I just don't see how he gets the nom ... unless they change his meds to whatever Trump is taking.


Bernie has zero chance to get a plurality of delegates. Biden will probably put this thing away by May the latest. In the unlikely event that Bernie is still around leading up to the convention according to Bernie’s own words Biden should be the nominee. If you supported this line of thinking when Bernie was the front runner you should support it when Biden is as well.

Thanks for ignoring my post and simply spamming the thread with your one view, yet again. :thumbsup:
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#505 » by duetta » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:02 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:It's going be absolutely amazing to watch the DNC trot this guy out. The standard bearer for a major party will be a dementia victim.

Everyone will see it. There will be no hiding Sleepy Joe once the general starts. This election beatdown will be biblical.


This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#506 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:09 pm

duetta wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:It's going be absolutely amazing to watch the DNC trot this guy out. The standard bearer for a major party will be a dementia victim.

Everyone will see it. There will be no hiding Sleepy Joe once the general starts. This election beatdown will be biblical.


This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.

Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#507 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:26 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
duetta wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:It's going be absolutely amazing to watch the DNC trot this guy out. The standard bearer for a major party will be a dementia victim.

Everyone will see it. There will be no hiding Sleepy Joe once the general starts. This election beatdown will be biblical.


This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.

Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?


Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#508 » by BallSacBounce » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:53 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
duetta wrote:
This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.

Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?


Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:

Didn't stop Bill Clinton.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#509 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:00 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
duetta wrote:
This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.

Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?


Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:


Oh, you mean the rumor launched by The Intercept of Glenn Greenwald fame, that virtuous guy who did everything he could to undermine the Mueller investigation and who has been a recurring guest of Russia Today, the Kremlin media apparatus.

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-team-denies-past-sexual-assault-allegation-former-senate-staffer-1494794

Hmmm, interesting. It appears Reade is a Putin fan girl.

Quote:

In a now-deleted 2018 Medium post Reade referred to Putin as "a compassionate, caring, visionary leader" and suggested that the Russian leader "keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love."

In the same post, she claimed that she had stopped working in U.S. government roles in her 20s because she loved Russia and "could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government."

You're what the Kremlin calls a useful idiot. You spread unsubstantiated rumors and accusations as fact. You're just a common troll at this point.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#510 » by duetta » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:02 pm

Interesting about Tara Reade.

For her part, Reade has openly advocated for Sanders’ candidacy, at a time when Biden has amassed a daunting delegate lead over the Vermont senator in the Democratic presidential primary. The former vice president is widely expected to be able to clinch the nomination once primaries that have been postponed amid the coronavirus pandemic resume.

“Please stay in Bernie,” Reade tweeted earlier this month.

“I will sue anyone who continues to slander me call me a Russian agent The Charges of sexual harassment & worse against Biden are true I will have the information collected of your slander turned over to law enforcement #DemocraticPrimary #BernieForPresident,” another tweet, purportedly posted by Reade this month, said.

The Russia reference likely pertains to past writings under her name that speak glowingly of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Reade has also given varying details about her time with Biden’s office. A Medium post under her name from 2018 said she left D.C. amid concerns over American “imperialism” and “xenophobia” toward Russia. She later alleged that she left after Biden “objectified” her.

Her account this week is more graphic than that given in a media interview in 2019.


http://590kid.com/biden-campaign-adamantly-denies-allegation-of-sexual-assault/

So, she's a Putin and Bernie supporter...
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#511 » by duetta » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:06 pm

Joe Biden violated Pete Buttigieg!



See the 0:26 mark of this video.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#512 » by duetta » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:19 pm

Seriously, I would comfortable with any of these former 2020 candidates at the top of the ticket.

Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
Jay Inslee
Elizabeth Warren
Amy Klobuchar
Mayor Pete

As for Cuomo, he has his own ethical skeletons that even the NYTimes made mention of in their half-hearted endorsement of him in 2018. He's had a good 18 months since his reelection - but he disappointed a lot a people during his first 8 years as Governor.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#513 » by Pointgod » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:15 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:
duetta wrote:
This is exactly the kind of character assassination that the Bernie Bros engaged in last time, at the behest of their candidate (who himself kept carping on transcripts of innocuous speeches that a paranoid Hillary refused to release).

This race is over. Even if Biden were not to be the candidate, Sanders would not be it. You need to think of every vote for Biden as a vote against Sanders' style of politics. The Democratic electorate is speaking.

There is no stomach in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party for a "blow it up" candidate - especially at this moment in time.

Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?


Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:


Wow showing the class of Bernie supporters as always. So Elizabeth Warren says that Bernie said that a woman couldn’t be President and predictably she’s a lying bitch, but somehow this woman that accused Biden is 100% trusted. :noway:
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#514 » by Pointgod » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:18 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:Fair enough, he's always been a rambler prone to brain farts. Now he's old so some people make the assumption he's lost it.
The facts remain he has had two brain aneurysms and he's old and gaffetastic. It will be easy to make the case and whatever someone's motivations are won't stop that train IMO.

Hillary? Cuomo? I know it's not the way anyone prefers to go but what if he is actually losing it? Wouldn't you have to?


Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:


Oh, you mean the rumor launched by The Intercept of Glenn Greenwald fame, that virtuous guy who did everything he could to undermine the Mueller investigation and who has been a recurring guest of Russia Today, the Kremlin media apparatus.

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-team-denies-past-sexual-assault-allegation-former-senate-staffer-1494794

Hmmm, interesting. It appears Reade is a Putin fan girl.

Quote:

In a now-deleted 2018 Medium post Reade referred to Putin as "a compassionate, caring, visionary leader" and suggested that the Russian leader "keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love."

In the same post, she claimed that she had stopped working in U.S. government roles in her 20s because she loved Russia and "could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government."

You're what the Kremlin calls a useful idiot. You spread unsubstantiated rumors and accusations as fact. You're just a common troll at this point.


We don’t need to slander the woman. The media should do their job and investigate, but I’m very wary that the only news outlets that are pushing this are all right wing trash rags and pro Bernie left outlets.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#515 » by Pointgod » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:19 pm

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:I don't believe he's going to make it through the convention. He'll have the votes - probably even a reasonable majority of the elected delegates, but I just don't see how he gets the nom ... unless they change his meds to whatever Trump is taking.


Bernie has zero chance to get a plurality of delegates. Biden will probably put this thing away by May the latest. In the unlikely event that Bernie is still around leading up to the convention according to Bernie’s own words Biden should be the nominee. If you supported this line of thinking when Bernie was the front runner you should support it when Biden is as well.

Thanks for ignoring my post and simply spamming the thread with your one view, yet again. :thumbsup:


What you wrote makes no sense and is not even realistic. Let’s deal in realm of reality.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#516 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:24 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Biden finger-raped Tara Reade. :noway:


Oh, you mean the rumor launched by The Intercept of Glenn Greenwald fame, that virtuous guy who did everything he could to undermine the Mueller investigation and who has been a recurring guest of Russia Today, the Kremlin media apparatus.

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-team-denies-past-sexual-assault-allegation-former-senate-staffer-1494794

Hmmm, interesting. It appears Reade is a Putin fan girl.

Quote:

In a now-deleted 2018 Medium post Reade referred to Putin as "a compassionate, caring, visionary leader" and suggested that the Russian leader "keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love."

In the same post, she claimed that she had stopped working in U.S. government roles in her 20s because she loved Russia and "could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government."

You're what the Kremlin calls a useful idiot. You spread unsubstantiated rumors and accusations as fact. You're just a common troll at this point.


We don’t need to slander the woman. The media should do their job and investigate, but I’m very wary that the only news outlets that are pushing this are all right wing trash rags and pro Bernie left outlets.


I posted an article by Newsweek that covered multiple sides of the story

I quoted her writings verbatim

The outlet is definitely highly questionable

The Russian ties are unmistakable

Showing that is not slander, but reasonable exploration

It was Wingo who slandered by posting as fact what remains at this time a potentially dubious allegation
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#517 » by Pointgod » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:35 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Oh, you mean the rumor launched by The Intercept of Glenn Greenwald fame, that virtuous guy who did everything he could to undermine the Mueller investigation and who has been a recurring guest of Russia Today, the Kremlin media apparatus.

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-campaign-team-denies-past-sexual-assault-allegation-former-senate-staffer-1494794

Hmmm, interesting. It appears Reade is a Putin fan girl.

Quote:

In a now-deleted 2018 Medium post Reade referred to Putin as "a compassionate, caring, visionary leader" and suggested that the Russian leader "keep your eyes to the beautiful future and maybe, just maybe America will come to see Russia as I do, with eyes of love."

In the same post, she claimed that she had stopped working in U.S. government roles in her 20s because she loved Russia and "could not stand to watch the deception and xenophobia that came from my own American government."

You're what the Kremlin calls a useful idiot. You spread unsubstantiated rumors and accusations as fact. You're just a common troll at this point.


We don’t need to slander the woman. The media should do their job and investigate, but I’m very wary that the only news outlets that are pushing this are all right wing trash rags and pro Bernie left outlets.


I posted an article by Newsweek that covered multiple sides of the story

I quoted her writings verbatim

The outlet is definitely highly questionable

The Russian ties are unmistakable

Showing that is not slander, but reasonable exploration

It was Wingo who slandered by posting as fact what remains at this time a potentially dubious allegation


No need to slander her as a Russian agent. She seems like a very confused and uninformed individual about Russia but I have no reason to believe that her ties to Russia are anything but cosmetic. I’ve read the article you posted and all this boils down to a he said she said which is why I needs to be taken seriously but further investigating needs to be done.

As for Wingo I’ve already called him out on his posting.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#518 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:46 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
We don’t need to slander the woman. The media should do their job and investigate, but I’m very wary that the only news outlets that are pushing this are all right wing trash rags and pro Bernie left outlets.


I posted an article by Newsweek that covered multiple sides of the story

I quoted her writings verbatim

The outlet is definitely highly questionable

The Russian ties are unmistakable

Showing that is not slander, but reasonable exploration

It was Wingo who slandered by posting as fact what remains at this time a potentially dubious allegation


No need to slander her as a Russian agent. She seems like a very confused and uninformed individual about Russia but I have no reason to believe that her ties to Russia are anything but cosmetic. I’ve read the article you posted and all this boils down to a he said she said which is why I needs to be taken seriously but further investigating needs to be done.

As for Wingo I’ve already called him out on his posting.


I quoted her. Those words are not random ties to Russia. That was a love poem to Putin written in 2018. It doesn't matter if she has direct operational ties or not. What she wrote was thoroughly deranged. Her sympathies lie there, that's the point, and it means she is an extremely dubious person when going after the nominee that Russia does not want to run against Trump.
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#519 » by GONYK » Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:56 am

Read on Twitter


Pretty strong ad
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Re: OT: Democratic Primary Thread 

Post#520 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:00 am

GONYK wrote:
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Pretty strong ad


No chance in hell he wins Michigan in November

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