OT: Democratic Primary Thread

[Guano]

It's really easy to have concerns about these Biden allegations by the way he interacts with females - which is wack. It shouldn't be too much to hold a presidential candidate to behave accordingly around females.

[Clyde_Style]

It's really easy to have concerns about these Biden allegations by the way he interacts with females - which is wack. It shouldn't be too much to hold a presidential candidate to behave accordingly around females.

That's not the same as calling someone a rapist.

Biden is definitely a very touchy feely guy and I can see why it may creep some people out. Our culture is no longer OK with that so he certainly better watch out who he gets familiar with. But that is not necessarily sexual predation.

It doesn't help any examination of a person's behavior to recite a sketchy accusation as gospel.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Biden is a stuttering angry old rapist. Trump is....many terrible things.... The choices...that aren't really choices...to pick from are disgusting.

Same old BS. Corporate sponsored dog and pony shows every 4 years. Just to give the illusion that your vote matters. It doesn't.

The beat goes on.....

[Guano]

It's really easy to have concerns about these Biden allegations by the way he interacts with females - which is wack. It shouldn't be too much to hold a presidential candidate to behave accordingly around females.

That's not the same as calling someone a rapist.

Biden is definitely a very touchy feely guy and I can see why it may creep some people out. Our culture is no longer OK with that so he certainly better watch out who he gets familiar with. But that is not necessarily sexual predation.

It doesn't help any examination of a person's behavior to recite a sketchy accusation as gospel.

agreed about being inappropriate(handsy) with females(young and old) doesn't mean he is a rapist. But, it does tend to give a little more weight to the validity of accusations of being a sexual abuser. And while I don't expect a president candidate to be perfect I'd rather they not have the cloud of being a predator hanging over their head.

[Clyde_Style]

It's really easy to have concerns about these Biden allegations by the way he interacts with females - which is wack. It shouldn't be too much to hold a presidential candidate to behave accordingly around females.

That's not the same as calling someone a rapist.

Biden is definitely a very touchy feely guy and I can see why it may creep some people out. Our culture is no longer OK with that so he certainly better watch out who he gets familiar with. But that is not necessarily sexual predation.

It doesn't help any examination of a person's behavior to recite a sketchy accusation as gospel.

agreed about being inappropriate(handsy) with females(young and old) doesn't mean he is a rapist. But, it does tend to give a little more weight to the validity of accusations of being a sexual abuser. And while I don't expect a president candidate to be perfect I'd rather they not have the cloud of being a predator hanging over their head.

TBH, I don't know any of that makes him more likely to be a predator, because he does that out in the open with no concerns for how it looks. It's almost like he's oblivious to the notion he might look too forwards at times.

He obviously loves interaction with people and is very social. Perhaps he takes the classic campaigning politician pressing the flesh thing too close for comfort sometimes so he does need to have better boundaries probably.

But the kissing kids on the foreheads stuff is more like dopey grandfather crap. And hugging biker chicks in front of Chopper Bob strikes me as more foolhardy than predatory. Joe does need to watch his step now in this very scrutinizing world we're in.

I've always been aware of his touchy stuff, but if he had something to hide it is just as likely he wouldn't be like that in public.

[Guano]

That's not the same as calling someone a rapist.

Biden is definitely a very touchy feely guy and I can see why it may creep some people out. Our culture is no longer OK with that so he certainly better watch out who he gets familiar with. But that is not necessarily sexual predation.

It doesn't help any examination of a person's behavior to recite a sketchy accusation as gospel.

agreed about being inappropriate(handsy) with females(young and old) doesn't mean he is a rapist. But, it does tend to give a little more weight to the validity of accusations of being a sexual abuser. And while I don't expect a president candidate to be perfect I'd rather they not have the cloud of being a predator hanging over their head.

TBH, I don't know any of that makes him more likely to be a predator, because he does that out in the open with no concerns for how it looks. It's almost like he's oblivious to the notion he might look too forwards at times.

He obviously loves interaction with people and is very social. Perhaps he takes the classic campaigning politician pressing the flesh thing too close for comfort sometimes so he does need to have better boundaries probably.

But the kissing kids on the foreheads stuff is more like dopey grandfather crap. And hugging biker chicks in front of Chopper Bob strikes me as more foolhardy than predatory. Joe does need to watch his step now in this very scrutinizing world we're in.

I've always been aware of his touchy stuff, but if he had something to hide it is just as likely he wouldn't be like that in public.

Your perception of it makes it really seem innocuous - I get it. He very well just might come from that ol' school touchy feely kind of guy(which is wrong). People bodies and personal space should be respected.

Just to play devils advocate - He very well could feel comfortable being handsey out in the open because he abused females in private. So, when he is around people he feels comfortable touching females more than is socially acceptable.

I honestly don't "believe" either theories. I don't know the truth. what I do know, is that I don't like having this hanging over the progressive candidates head.

[Clyde_Style]

agreed about being inappropriate(handsy) with females(young and old) doesn't mean he is a rapist. But, it does tend to give a little more weight to the validity of accusations of being a sexual abuser. And while I don't expect a president candidate to be perfect I'd rather they not have the cloud of being a predator hanging over their head.

TBH, I don't know any of that makes him more likely to be a predator, because he does that out in the open with no concerns for how it looks. It's almost like he's oblivious to the notion he might look too forwards at times.

He obviously loves interaction with people and is very social. Perhaps he takes the classic campaigning politician pressing the flesh thing too close for comfort sometimes so he does need to have better boundaries probably.

But the kissing kids on the foreheads stuff is more like dopey grandfather crap. And hugging biker chicks in front of Chopper Bob strikes me as more foolhardy than predatory. Joe does need to watch his step now in this very scrutinizing world we're in.

I've always been aware of his touchy stuff, but if he had something to hide it is just as likely he wouldn't be like that in public.

Your perception of it makes it really seem innocuous - I get it. He very well just might come from that ol' school touchy feely kind of guy(which is wrong). People bodies and personal space should be respected.

Just to play devils advocate - He very well could feel comfortable being handsey out in the open because he abused females in private. So, when he is around people he feels comfortable touching females more than is socially acceptable.

I honestly don't "believe" either theories. I don't know the truth. what I do know, is that I don't like having this hanging over the progressive candidates head.

Not really condoning anything. A lot of it is unnecessary and, like you, I think he should be more conscious of physical boundaries in general and it doesn't help him to have to explain why.

[Guano]

TBH, I don't know any of that makes him more likely to be a predator, because he does that out in the open with no concerns for how it looks. It's almost like he's oblivious to the notion he might look too forwards at times.

He obviously loves interaction with people and is very social. Perhaps he takes the classic campaigning politician pressing the flesh thing too close for comfort sometimes so he does need to have better boundaries probably.

But the kissing kids on the foreheads stuff is more like dopey grandfather crap. And hugging biker chicks in front of Chopper Bob strikes me as more foolhardy than predatory. Joe does need to watch his step now in this very scrutinizing world we're in.

I've always been aware of his touchy stuff, but if he had something to hide it is just as likely he wouldn't be like that in public.

Your perception of it makes it really seem innocuous - I get it. He very well just might come from that ol' school touchy feely kind of guy(which is wrong). People bodies and personal space should be respected.

Just to play devils advocate - He very well could feel comfortable being handsey out in the open because he abused females in private. So, when he is around people he feels comfortable touching females more than is socially acceptable.

I honestly don't "believe" either theories. I don't know the truth. what I do know, is that I don't like having this hanging over the progressive candidates head.

Not really condoning anything. A lot of it is unnecessary and, like you, I think he should be more conscious of physical boundaries in general and it doesn't help him to have to explain why.

such a hard subject to discuss - my bad, if I implied you were condoning it. just meant to say I saw your point.

But on the flipside I also don't want to invalidate anyone's abuse.

tbh, I prolly should have just sat this one out.

[Clyde_Style]

Your perception of it makes it really seem innocuous - I get it. He very well just might come from that ol' school touchy feely kind of guy(which is wrong). People bodies and personal space should be respected.

Just to play devils advocate - He very well could feel comfortable being handsey out in the open because he abused females in private. So, when he is around people he feels comfortable touching females more than is socially acceptable.

I honestly don't "believe" either theories. I don't know the truth. what I do know, is that I don't like having this hanging over the progressive candidates head.

Not really condoning anything. A lot of it is unnecessary and, like you, I think he should be more conscious of physical boundaries in general and it doesn't help him to have to explain why.

such a hard subject to discuss - my bad, if I implied you were condoning it. just meant to say I saw your point.

But on the flipside I also don't want to invalidate anyone's abuse.

tbh, I prolly should have just sat this one out.

no, that's fine. I welcome a discussion of it. You were perfectly civil so it's good AFAIK

I'm just sick of other folks running around validating any accusation as fact because it suits their personal agenda. Here we have a guy on this board who always talks about being a lawyer exhibiting zero regard for the basic underpinning of our justice system which is you're innocent until proven guilty. Where's the due diligence? Guy doesn't even know this woman is dubious and he instantly wants to spread that Joe is a rapist based on her say so. FOH with that irresponsible trolling

Well, sometimes accusations turn out to be fabricated and it is very easy to destroy the lives of the accused. We should never pander or kow tow to the mob's lust to crucify public figures the moment a finger is pointed of them. Cosby and Weinstein can burn in hell, but they got their due process and it was a great thing they were put away

[BallSacBounce]

Seriously, I would comfortable with any of these former 2020 candidates at the top of the ticket.

Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
Jay Inslee
Elizabeth Warren
Amy Klobuchar
Mayor Pete

As for Cuomo, he has his own ethical skeletons that even the NYTimes made mention of in their half-hearted endorsement of him in 2018. He's had a good 18 months since his reelection - but he disappointed a lot a people during his first 8 years as Governor.

IMO Amy is your best bet. No idea why she didn't receive more traction, do you?

[Clyde_Style]

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[BallSacBounce]

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I hope you win. Can't stand that swamp rat Lindsey Graham. He needs to go. I'll take my chances taking back the seat later.

[Clyde_Style]

I hope you win. Can't stand that swamp rat Lindsey Graham. He needs to go. I'll take my chances taking back the seat later.

Your doorbell will ring on January 1st.

Be sure to look down before closing the door because there will be a gift basket for you with a stack of Soldier of Fortune magazines, a year's supply of beef jerky and the shrunken heads of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

[BallSacBounce]

I hope you win. Can't stand that swamp rat Lindsey Graham. He needs to go. I'll take my chances taking back the seat later.

Your doorbell will ring on January 1st.

Be sure to look down before closing the door because there will be a gift basket for you with a stack of Soldier of Fortune magazines, a year's supply of beef jerky and the shrunken heads of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

Mitch is another swamp rat. I'll be glad to see him go too. When will you ever realize it is us against the system and not Dems vs. Reps? At least not the average voter. For the ideological lunatics I have no comment.

[Clyde_Style]

I hope you win. Can't stand that swamp rat Lindsey Graham. He needs to go. I'll take my chances taking back the seat later.

Your doorbell will ring on January 1st.

Be sure to look down before closing the door because there will be a gift basket for you with a stack of Soldier of Fortune magazines, a year's supply of beef jerky and the shrunken heads of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

Mitch is another swamp rat. I'll be glad to see him go too. When will you ever realize it is us against the system and not Dems vs. Reps? At least not the average voter. For the ideological lunatics I have no comment.

Yet you called Trump "our awesome president" so nah, you're not interested in free thinking iconoclasts . You belong to a personality cult whose motives are only unfettered power and greed.

The biggest brainwash job has been getting guys like you to talk about a vague, monolithic "system" as the enemy of the average man while you vote for the swampiest man America has ever produced

That you actually think this is about Democrats vs. Republicans just shows how shallow all of your replies are. You never think anything through or with any depth. Besides, the GOP is no longer recognizable as a Republican party. It is strictly a haven for grifters who are untainted by the burden of any ideological principles or constraints. It is now a smash and grab party devoid of any conscience or allegiance to the Constitution. The GOP are criminals. That they happen to still call themselves Republicans is incidental

[BallSacBounce]

Your doorbell will ring on January 1st.

Be sure to look down before closing the door because there will be a gift basket for you with a stack of Soldier of Fortune magazines, a year's supply of beef jerky and the shrunken heads of Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

Mitch is another swamp rat. I'll be glad to see him go too. When will you ever realize it is us against the system and not Dems vs. Reps? At least not the average voter. For the ideological lunatics I have no comment.

Yet you called Trump "our awesome president" so nah, you're not interested in free thinking iconoclasts . You belong to a personality cult whose motives are only unfettered power and greed.

The biggest brainwash job has been getting guys like you to talk about a vague, monolithic "system" as the enemy of the average man while you vote for the swampiest man America has ever produced

That you actually think this is about Democrats vs. Republicans just shows how shallow all of your replies are. You never think anything through or with any depth. Besides, the GOP is no longer recognizable as a Republican party. It is strictly a haven for grifters who are untainted by the burden of any ideological principles or constraints. It is now a smash and grab party devoid of any conscience or allegiance to the Constitution. The GOP are criminals. That they happen to still call themselves Republicans is incidental

You're one of those ideological lunatics I was talking about. Have a really nice day. I don't give the least bit of **** for your completely ignorant opinions.

[Clyde_Style]

Well, Fox News has something to tell us

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[Clyde_Style]

An article arguing the case for picking Warren as the VP

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/03/20/a-biden-warren-ticket-answering-the-doubters/

[HarthorneWingo]

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[Jeffrey]

I was looking at Miami for potential relocation, my parents live near Vero beach. What do you dislike about Florida? Too many rednecks? Just go to the Miami

Too many to list. Drink that Florida water and for some reason your IQ just drops or two steps away from a mental institution.

Miami is cool but every where else... it's next level crazy

Even where there are pockets of enlightenment in Florida, it will always be rubbing up against extreme ignorance right next door.

The drug use among the white rednecks here is off the charts with multiple generations of tatted up criminals driving around blasting their sub-woofers who will cap you if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time and they don't like the way you look at them. You see people tweaking all the time and there's plenty of street hookers.

That exists in other places too, don't get me wrong, but there's a high density of these aholes here. In the most upscale neighborhoods you'll miss all of this if you're sheltered, but in Florida the glory of derangement is visible by driving 10 minutes in any direction from my experience.

On top of that, this is one of the most corrupt states run by electoral thieves.

And Miami is no picnic. I'm on the Gulf side which is much better than the Eastern seaboard which is even more violent and dangerous. Miami as a vacation destination might seem like a nice place to go if you're heading to South Beach, but be careful where you wander late at night. The drivers in Miami are literally insane. It is often the worst and most reckless place of all. Don't know what's so cool about Miami TBH

And the last thing is Florida is a super transient place. Lots of the redneck stuff is locals, but it is also a place where people go to park their money and live where it is warm. But that also means you attract lots of know nothing, self-interested people who think they are hot stuff because they can afford to buy a house or a second home here. People with money in Florida generally tend to be among the most boring people I've met my whole life. They contribute nothing to the culture the majority of the time and do their best to separate themselves from people without money. Florida is the ultimate land of the haves and the have nots and neither are the basis for much culturally

There are good people and artists in Florida like anywhere, but they are overwhelmed by the sheer mediocrity of the rest of this state. It's a cultural wasteland for the most part

Holy sh.it, you should apply to a job for the anti-Florida tourism position.

This is only from what I've heard and read online with Florida. I don't have first-hand knowledge like you. I just like to sh.it on Florida because I always read some stupid **** that goes down there. Every place has redneck meth-heads but for some reason, Florida goes to the next level. It's not just a murder there, but a murder because of something really insane. It's not a robbery but for some really stupid.

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