Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread VI (Don't Read Post 1 & FAQ)

[G R E Y]

Can someone chime in and elaborate if this is a seasonal thing that will pass by once we reach 70s and 80s ?

Brazil has 3904 cases and Australia has 3969 cases, also it was spreading in Singapore which has been low 90s & high humidity all month there.

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So so dangerous. Even his own people are protesting against easing social distancing:

A few days ago, a video was shared by Jair Bolsonaro's son, Flavio - a politician himself.

The video's message, which claimed to come from the Brazilian government, was that "BRAZIL CAN'T STOP" (in Portuguese, #obrasilnãopodeparar). People need to keep working to keep the country safe and the economy growing.

The government refused to claim ownership of the video and has since called it "fake news", but it's exactly the message Mr Bolsonaro has been putting out.

So much so, in fact, that a federal judge on Saturday banned the government from campaigning against isolation measures. Government posts on social media using the hashtag were hastily removed.

The din of pot-banging on peoples' balconies has been the soundtrack to many an evening in cities like Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro recently. The "panelaços" are a protest against a President they see as irresponsible. A man known for denying science.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52080830?at_custom2=twitter&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom4=132603AE-71B2-11EA-B1CD-82984744363C&at_medium=custom7&at_campaign=64&at_custom3=%40BBCWorld

[G R E Y]

An unintended consequence of New York's rumored quarantine is that many will be spooked and try to flee the state. I don't know how or why that leaked, but it's going to have a butterfly effect. People do irrational things in fear. With their state hospitals approaching capacity, people will flee if given the opportunity. That's what happened when Northern Italy locked down. They announced it a few days ahead and people all fled to the south.

It happened in China, too. Many successfully evaded quarantine from Wuhan, making it as far south as Hong Kong.

A worldwide trend:

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[G R E Y]

Some things to connect to and ways to cope while being apart:

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[Badonkadonk]

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So so dangerous. Even his own people are protesting against easing social distancing:

A few days ago, a video was shared by Jair Bolsonaro's son, Flavio - a politician himself.

The video's message, which claimed to come from the Brazilian government, was that "BRAZIL CAN'T STOP" (in Portuguese, #obrasilnãopodeparar). People need to keep working to keep the country safe and the economy growing.

The government refused to claim ownership of the video and has since called it "fake news", but it's exactly the message Mr Bolsonaro has been putting out.

So much so, in fact, that a federal judge on Saturday banned the government from campaigning against isolation measures. Government posts on social media using the hashtag were hastily removed.

The din of pot-banging on peoples' balconies has been the soundtrack to many an evening in cities like Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro recently. The "panelaços" are a protest against a President they see as irresponsible. A man known for denying science.

He's such an idiot. What makes this extremely dangerous is that the government directly controls testing rates via policy. It's very easy to push the narrative that this is overblown when you expend insufficient resources towards actually quantifying the # of infections.

I feel for the people of Brazil. Hospitals will be overflowing and they won't even understand the extent of the crisis.

[HotRocks34]

I have not been following the thread for awhile so I apologize if this is old information.

There is a new prediction model/site that is going around. I believe it comes from researchers at Washington State University. Dr Birx mentioned the site today in an interview on NBC, so the virus task force is watching it, it seems. Here is the link:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

They update their data daily, I believe. Meaning that they are constantly re-calculating their model. Thus, it might be the best model out there at the moment (I'm not sure).

Also, I think their assumption (as of today) is that social distancing will continue in the USA until the end of May.

So here's what they think right now:

- Peak for USA will be April 14 (peak for deaths at 2,341 on that date; not sure if peak for new cases)
- Approximately 81,000 USA deaths through August 2020
- 34,750 ICU beds needed on peak date


Think this is one for the bookmarks so wanted to share it. They also do predictions by each USA state, I think.

[G R E Y]

Happening soon:

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

I suspect that there is a division between extroverts and introverts when it comes to social distancing (probably obvious). I am naturally an introvert so social distancing is not difficult for me at least when it comes to not meeting people (just being around only family is fine by me). But it seems like some of the extroverts I know are struggling with this badly. This probably made it easy for me to suggest that people should not be going out anywhere when no one was taking this seriously. Like, I don't have to go out and meet people to "live my life to the fullest" whereas for some people, this is an essential part of living.

I'd say the majority of people that frequent message boards are introverts by nature, for people on RealGm the social distancing is probably very easy outside of the lack of NBA games.

[bravor]

An unintended consequence of New York's rumored quarantine is that many will be spooked and try to flee the state. I don't know how or why that leaked, but it's going to have a butterfly effect. People do irrational things in fear. With their state hospitals approaching capacity, people will flee if given the opportunity. That's what happened when Northern Italy locked down. They announced it a few days ahead and people all fled to the south.

It happened in China, too. Many successfully evaded quarantine from Wuhan, making it as far south as Hong Kong.

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It also happens in many African countries, which is a major source of concern despite the youth of the population. Especially for the potential consequences (social disorders etc).

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Most of us believe this. They GREATLY underreported deaths.

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[Mind_Odyssey]

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Most of us believe this. They GREATLY underreported deaths.

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You’re absolutely right.

I’m just disappointed that the China bots that lurked on this site are gone. Remember the ones that came out of nowhere during the China vs NBA debate?

[OkcSinceSGA]

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Most of us believe this. They GREATLY underreported deaths.

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You’re absolutely right.

I’m just disappointed that the China bots that lurked on this site are gone. Remember the ones that came out of nowhere during the China vs NBA debate?

Yep. Even now people parrot that these countries are passing China and how great China did blah blah. More like China lied their asses off. They actually announced early on they were changing the way they report deaths and cases to muzzle the growth basically.

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She was 33, but was an adult with multiple disabilities, which could have contributed.

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[flavio_93]

Does anyone else find it weird that so many celebrities are coming out as positive ? Either they all hang out together or some of them are being paid to day they’re positive to scare people into taking it more seriously


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[Swish1906]

Does anyone else find it weird that so many celebrities are coming out as positive ? Either they all hang out together or some of them are being paid to day they’re positive to scare people into taking it more seriously


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No, they are not getting paid.

The more you travel, the higher the chances you had contact. Specially when you was visiting europe in the past weeks.

[Je K]

Does anyone else find it weird that so many celebrities are coming out as positive ? Either they all hang out together or some of them are being paid to day they’re positive to scare people into taking it more seriously


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Or they've actually had access to get tested.

[DowJones]

I have not been following the thread for awhile so I apologize if this is old information.

There is a new prediction model/site that is going around. I believe it comes from researchers at Washington State University. Dr Birx mentioned the site today in an interview on NBC, so the virus task force is watching it, it seems. Here is the link:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

They update their data daily, I believe. Meaning that they are constantly re-calculating their model. Thus, it might be the best model out there at the moment (I'm not sure).

Also, I think their assumption (as of today) is that social distancing will continue in the USA until the end of May.

So here's what they think right now:

- Peak for USA will be April 14 (peak for deaths at 2,341 on that date; not sure if peak for new cases)
- Approximately 81,000 USA deaths through August 2020
- 34,750 ICU beds needed on peak date


Think this is one for the bookmarks so wanted to share it. They also do predictions by each USA state, I think.

I always thought Memorial Day would be a good point for us to evaluate how much longer these stay at home orders should continue. That would put us into the summer months. We would have much more in terms of PPE, Ventilators, etc by then. I still think we have about 2 more months left.

[G R E Y]

Per Wiretap, sourced from Shams. This is a great idea and I hope those affected cooperate:

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This country is full of morons.

[Stillwater]

Heat is supposed to slow down, not increase, the spread of this virus. That opinion has been pretty much universal in the scientific community so there’s not need to simply guess.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.accuweather.com/en/health-wellness/study-on-new-coronavirus-says-warmer-weather-may-slow-covid-19-spread-and-cooler-weather-may-accelerate-it/707177/amp

I'm ok pal I'm not guessing. This is true what you posted about how long it lives on surfaces but has nothing to do with airborne transfer.
This week, the Food and Drug Administration provided guidance that allows hospitals to modify respiratory devices, including ventilators, CPAPs and BiPAPs, during the public health emergency, as long as they take steps to prevent aerosolization of the virus.
First responders called to the Life Care Center of Kirkland starting Feb. 24 initially used positive airway pressure machines, often known as CPAPs, to treat residents before it was known the patients were infected with COVID-19.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/27/822211604/cpap-machines-were-seen-as-ventilator-alternatives-but-could-spread-covid-19
So yeah what you know and what comes next are not the same thing looking at the ever changing projections

You’re certainly trying really hard so you don’t have to admit that your wrong.

When a person states something that is quite obviously wrong, I just assume that they didn’t do any research. Or they could have possibly got their information from Trump or an equally unreliable source.

Since my initial response to this got pulled here are some fact links that others can look at and get in tune with what is really happening, whether you can muster the humble pie to do it is up to you.
its airborne now they know it is and humidity and heat don't help.
https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-warning-shocking-video-shows-danger-covid-19-asymptomatic-patient-2947556
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-lives-for-hours-in-air-particles-and-days-on-surfaces-new-us-study-shows.html
They found that COVID-19 was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper and up to 24 hours on cardboard. The new coronavirus can also last up to three days on plastic and stainless steel, the scientists concluded, adding the amount of the virus left on those surfaces decreases over time. Aerosols are solid or liquid particles that hang in the air, including fog, dust, and gas commonly used in medical procedures like ventilation and nebulizers.
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https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-airborne-covid-19-survives-air-new-study-reveals-2941967
new scientific study showing SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2), the mutation that causes COVID-19, can remain alive while airborne for up to three hours is being questioned as misleading. aka people are thinking it isn't airborne.

I could go on but I am really not interested in doing the research. it's out there for those smart enough to look for it. I hope you are one of them