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Re: Ernie's Dirty Dozen 

Post#21 » by doclinkin » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:10 pm

payitforward wrote:Oh, everyone knew he was an incredible player, & I definitely wanted him. & that Bobby Knight commentary is really great!! Guy seems to know something about the game.... :)

But, Steph Curry turned out to be one of the top 5 players in the league over a dozen year span, not to mention someone who actually had a big hand in changing the game radically. If you are telling me that is what you projected, you'll have to point to the place where you said it. I don't think it exists -- & that is certainly no criticism, doc.


I’ve never had the certainty about drafting a player that I did with Curry. You’re saying it would be fair for teams to pass him up since no one could predict he’d be transcendent. I’m saying Bobby Knight said he was the best he’d ever seen at his position. That’s one. And that for my part in watching Curry score with a Hibachi level of deadly but with the calm of Tai Chi. Singlehandedly. With a horse dropping team around him. Against the best teams in the land. Yeah. I was immoderate in wanting to draft him and said so since he was a freshman.

And while I was curious if James Hardens pudgy plumbers strength and craftiness and ridiculous scoring efficiency would translate (especially on defense) so would be okay if he fell to us (but please not Ricky Rubio) still I made clear It would be a failure of the franchise is Curry was there and we didn’t take him. Regardless of whether or not we had Arenas on the team.

Curry was clearly playing a different game than everyone else. Seeing the floor differently. Even his defense was underrated. He was playing mistake free basketball.

Most of the favorites I pick in any year are diamond in the rough 2nd rounders who I figure will prove to have a good career. Many do. Curry was the Holy Grail for me.

Put it this way:I wanted him more than Blake Griffin. And was saying mentally he was at a JKidd Chris Paul level of understanding of the game.
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Re: Ernie's Dirty Dozen 

Post#22 » by payitforward » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:25 pm

No doubt about it, doc, you were all in! :) & you were completely correct (obviously!).

There are a bunch of familiar guys from this Board active on the thread you linked to who have completely different opinions about Steph. Of course, we are all of us wrong about any number of things, but I wonder how many, looking back, would see their mistake in this case & have a sense of what led them astray....
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Re: Ernie's Dirty Dozen 

Post#23 » by BigA » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:35 am

Not one of the worst moves, because it didn't actually happen, but one of the most comical, is the December 2018 "Wrong Brooks" trade with Memphis and Phoenix.
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Re: Ernie's Dirty Dozen 

Post#24 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:28 pm

payitforward wrote:No doubt about it, doc, you were all in! :) & you were completely correct (obviously!).

There are a bunch of familiar guys from this Board active on the thread you linked to who have completely different opinions about Steph. Of course, we are all of us wrong about any number of things, but I wonder how many, looking back, would see their mistake in this case & have a sense of what led them astray....

I'm probably the worst. I called him a perfect 3rd guard. :oops:

Otoh, I was a huge Harden fan from that draft and defended him probably a couple dozen times when others said he wasn't athletic enough. Believe it or not, some said Harden wasn't big enough to excel in the NBA. (See how I'm deftly changing the subject away from my enormous blunder). Btw, I was very upset with the trade for Foye and Miller (See, I did it again - smoothly).
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Re: Ernie's Dirty Dozen 

Post#25 » by payitforward » Thu Apr 2, 2020 10:11 pm

Hey, hold on....

Anyone who is a perfect 1st guard (which Steph is) by definition must be a perfect (or better if it were possible) 2d guard. So, Steph is also a perfect 2d guard. But, obviously, anyone who is a perfect 2d guard has to be a perfect 3d guard -- again by definition. So, for sure Steph is a perfect 3d guard.

See -- you were right all along. You just didn't realize how right!

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